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Alex Jones: All right, we have only got him a little
bit into the next hour, so I am going to try to give him the
floor, but have him get right into it in a language all of us
can easily understand. Dr.
Steve Pieczenik, M.D., PhD., is an American psychiatrist,
former State Department official, author, publisher. He co-wrote
a lot of Tom
Clancy's books, had a lot of his books turned into big films.
He is a critically acclaimed author of psychopolitical thrillers
and co-creator of the best-selling Tom Clancy Op-Center
and Tom Clancy's Net
Force paperbacks. Trained in psychiatry at Harvard University
and international relations at MIT, his novels are based on
over twenty years. He was a colonel in black ops, wrote the
book on psychological warfare for the State Department, then
adopted by the CIA, helped overthrow governments, assassinations.
He won't get into it, but you can look him up if you like to.
Very serious person we have got on the line. Member of the Council
on Foreign Relations. He told me on air when he was on about
a month and a half ago, the interviews are there, they are posted
at Infowars.com, just
look up the last interview. He said, "Yes, I just confronted
Dempsey,
got in his face, and said ..." -- that's the Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff -- and then it came out in the news
later actually that [Gen. Martin] Dempsey had been confronted.
They didn't say it was Pieczenik at a Council on Foreign Relations
meeting. Then Dempsey came out and said "The U.S. won't
be behind the Iran attack. We don't want the blame." Well,
it doesn't matter, we are going to be sucked into it. So just
amazing inside info. He is not supposed to talk about what goes
on inside the meetings of the Council on Foreign Relations,
but we have only got him again for three segments. We
are going to get him back on later in the week because they
are gearing up for a giant Iran strike. Huge carrier task force
groups, British build-up. Twenty nations plus have their --
twenty five nations are converging on the Strait of Hormuz.
You have got the killing of the U.S. ambassador in Benghazi.
I have talked to a lot of my sources, and they all say, including
Pieczenik, "October surprise" basically to "Carterize"
Obama. And by the way, Pieczenik worked for Carter, George Bush
senior, and others, so he is bipartisan in his "service"
to the country. But here to break this down for us, the point
we are at geopolitically right now is Dr. Steve Pieczenik --
StevePieczenik.com
is his web site if you want to find out about his best-selling
books. Good to have you here with us Doc. I am going to try
to shut up and give you the floor because we don't have a lot
of time, but please break down where we are right now. I mean,
I know you were against Obama. You exposed the Bin Laden thing,
so it is not like you are for him to expose that this is meant
to be blamed on him, this killing, but clearly the media is
trying to deep six Obama. What is behind this geopolitically?
Dr. Pieczenik: What is behind this geopolitically
is the extension of what you were brave enough, and your audience
is brave enough to understand. This is all an extension of the
9/11 disinformation and false flag episode. It continued into
the issue of the CIA and the confrontation between the CIA and
our military and the President of the United States continuing
on with covert activity and trying to reposition themselves
in the Middle East for our military under General
Petraeus and under other generals who are trying to pull
us out of the Middle East. What is happening now is we have
the overview of a Shiite power. The Iranians fighting the Sunnis
with Saudi Arabia, but in the middle is Israel continuously
playing with all of the players, including Saudi Arabia and
particularly the diaspora Jews and the Jews of the United States
as a way of putting pressure on Obama, as a way of putting pressure
on General Dempsey, and General Petraeus to say that we want
a red line in order to be able to attack Iran. And the answer
is repeatedly, even by General Dempsey, the answer is "No.
We will not give you a red line." Gen. Petraeus said, "Not
only will we not give you a red line, but we want you to know
under no circumstances -- "; and I do not vouch [heard
correctly?] General Petraeues, I am a great admirer of his,
I know what he is doing. Is that he has repeatedly stated as
I had, that from a geopolitical point of view, Israel is a strategic
liability and has been a strategic liability for over twenty
years. Since 1968 we have had no need for Israel other than
the fact that it covered us under the Soviet Union on the eastern,
southern, and northern flank. For the first time since 1948
geopolitically Israel is confronted by Hezbollah,
a proxy for Iran. By Hamas and its proxies on the eastern bank
of Jordan, and on the south by the Islamic Brotherhood or Al
Qaeda. All of which they were part and parcel of. Israel is
not innocent of any activity, and contrary to Bibi
Netanyahu's speech today, to CNN where he wished everybody a
Happy New
Year [of the Jewish Calendar], I in return wish Bibi Netanyahu
and the Israelis a Happy New Year, and wish that he would first
begin to tell the truth. That the involvement of Israel was
in 9/11. Over 134 Mossad operatives were picked up 9/11. The
FBI picked them up, debriefed them, they were clearly involved
with the Pakistani ISI and Saudi Arabian intelligence. Then
we get to the old issue of Osama Bin Laden, which Obama said
incorrectly and lied to the public that Osama Bin Laden was
killed by SEAL Team 6. Admiral
McRaven had lied repeatedly. Unfortunately he is a decent
Admiral, but for whatever reason he repeatedly insisted on saying
SEAL Team 6 killed Osama Bin Laden when the fact that on your
radio show ten years ago I said that he was already dead. The
Navy SEAL Team 6 will be disciplined by General Petraeus and
others in the Special Forces. So what this means in effect is
that we had an ambassador who was a very honorable man working
in the State Department under a very good Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton who has been doing an excellent job with keeping
everything quiet, alongside a lot of diplomats including Mark
Grossman and others, and a President who has tried to maintain
his foreign [policy], contained it in a very effective way.
They have been undermined by the following people who once again
came out of 9/11, your friends and mine, the neocon
chickenhawks. Paul Wolfowitz, once again hiding behind Mitt
Romney. Elliott
Abrams, hiding behind Mitt Romney. Chertoff,
the head of Homeland Security who now heads up the Chertoff
Group, which is nothing more than a cover for the CIA and FBI
run by Charles
Allen, a former CIA operative, all hiding behind Mitt Romney
who himself has no idea of what he is talking about on foreign
policy. So you have a presidential candidate who can't utter
even the right words, with an entire team composed of Bob
Zoellick, Roger
Ailes, and Murdoch,
he has no idea that the most important enemy he says is Russia.
No, Russia is not our most important enemy. We are a super power
as Colin Powell has said repeatedly, "Cool it, Mitt Romney
and get your facts straight." Mitt Romney is being run
by a guy named Don Fentner [heard correctly?], a protégé
of the neocon vultures, Paul
Wolfowitz, Richard
Perle, and once again what we have is a fight between the
neocon Jews, Israel on their side, and the fact that we have
an intelligence service that is split under General Petraeus,
trying to maintain peace and stability in the Middle East, a
State Department that is trying to maintain peace and stability,
and a situation that has been provoked through agitation propaganda
through local Libyans as well as foreigners, foreigners meaning
mercenaries and others concerned with agitation propaganda,
in order to destabilize Libya and to particularly assassinate
our ambassador. Why this particular ambassador? I think it is
very important for your audience to understand who Christopher
Stevens was. He was considered, and a key word here is an
"Arabist." It is a very rare word to use in the description
of an outstanding foreign service officer. An Arabist
was a term that was used by the neo-cons, the Israelis, and
others who did not like experts who were specially trained in
Arabic studies, spoke Arabic, were sensitive to the Arab culture,
were trained specifically in what was considered the Protestant
college developed in the 1800's by famous missionaries on our
part. This was all Presbyterian missionaries, which eventually
became the Lebanese, Beirut
University of Lebanon. Which subsequently great men like
Mr. Curr [spelling?] and others were trained in, an Arabist
whom I have worked with on the only peace treaty that has ever
existed was part of Christopher Stevens --
Jones: Well stay there Doc, we have got to
go to break. Come back and explain it in layman's terms here.
I know that you are talking to the intelligence community, but
I mean obviously you are not a fan of Obama either. But you
told me, you are saying Israeli intelligence with Saudi intel
is who killed the ambassador. This is pretty big news, stay
there. [Break begins at 42:49. End of break at: 47:29]
Jones: That's right, an empire of corrupt criminals
that work together who want to destroy liberty and freedom worldwide.
It is real simple. You are for freedom or for tyranny. I stand
with liberty. Now Dr. Pieczenik won't brag about himself, but
over the years interviewing him now for about eleven years or
ten years, I have looked him up, and you come across him. He
was the main psychiatrist or psych warfare guy that Jimmy Carter
had in the Camp David accords with Anwar
Sadat. Actually got him to do the deal by actually really
talking to him. So he knows what he is talking about here. So
what they are saying here is this ambassador -- well, I mean,
it is simple. You want to get a war going, you kill the ambassador,
you get your Jihadis
that are in there to start blowing stuff up, and then you blame
Obama for it. Now let's be clear. I don't like Obama, I don't
like Mitt Romney. And I really don't like Obama on his anti-gun
and all the rest of it. I mean Dr. Pieczenik has worked for
George Bush senior and Brent
Scowcroft, so he is not political as well. He is just giving
you what he believes is really going on. I mean, do you really
believe anybody, that a bunch of Jihadis went through all those
Special Forces guys they had guarding the ambassador. Do you
really think there were only four security guards there? I mean,
Al Qaeda "bragged" that "We know your security."
So this is amazing. So just tell me what you told me privately
in that 45 minute conversation we had yesterday, Dr. Pieczenik.
I mean, tell people where we are standing right now. I mean,
how this ties into Iran, where this is going.
Dr. Pieczenik: What we are is at the brink
of war that is being precipitated by two major countries. That
is Israel, particularly Bibi Netanyahu, who knows his country
is failing economically, socially, politically. He is isolated
by the United States. General Petraeus two years ago said correctly
"It is a liability." He already immediately tried
to take action to draw us back in by mobilizing the Jewish committees
like AIPAC, Zionists, the neocons and Mitt Romney and all the
men behind him.
Jones: By the way, you are Jewish Dr. Pieczenik.
You are Jewish. So you are not, you are not --
Dr. Pieczenik: I'm Jewish. I come out of the
Holocaust. But remember, Netanyahu did not come out of the Holocaust.
Contrary to everything that Netanyahu is telling America, and
is telling Obama, everything he said is a lie, including what
is father wrote. His father was a teacher at Cornell. What he
continuously said, and I am saying this as a Jew on the eve
of a holiday, is that the Israel was the foundation of salvation
for the persecution of Jews. Nothing could have been a greater
lie than the fact that Israel or Palestine at the time was of
no value to the Israelis, on the contrary, to the Jews. On the
contrary, when Eichmann
came, and he was trained in Hebrew, 1927, a deal offered by
Hitler to save thousands of Hungarian Jews in return for trucks
[or bucks? heard correctly?], and Ben
Gurion said, "I would rather have 400 cows than one
diaspora
Jew." Repeatedly, Israel turned down any help to help the
diaspora Jew. They did, however, 1933 in Palestine take 36,000
German Jews in return for money, and worked with Heydrich,
and worked with Heydrich who was a Jew. I am talking as a diaspora
Jew. There were 165,000 German Jews called Mischlinge
in Hitler's Army. None of which Netanyahu wants to talk about.
None of which Netanyahu will admit.
Jones: Dr. Pieczenik, this is super deep history
you are getting into, and we appreciate you --
Dr. Pieczenik: Well, let me just say something.
Everything Bibi is saying to America and to the American Jews
is an absolute, unmitigated lie. Not since 1968 was Israel ever
interested in the diaspora Jew or using the Holocaust. Then
they created the machinery to use the Holocaust as a way of
mobilizing guilt and anxiety over the world. But they are not
the only culprit. The next culprit is Saudi Arabia. And the
Sudairi
Seven [heard correctly?], that is, the wife [heard correctly?]
of King
Abdulaziz. Let us put it this way very simply. The Faisal
and Saud families are not legitimate heirs to Saudi Arabia.
It was created by England. They created in a concept called
divide and conquer. A family that came out of Diriyah,
most of you saw that in Lawrence of Arabia film. It does not
exist. They are Wahhabis.
They distort the Koran. The message of the Koran throughout
history has always been peace and love and working with all
of the religions. They were formidable, and the Wahhabis
are the total distortion. The true descendants of Mecca and
Medina are not King Faisal of Saudi, they are the Hashemites.
But the British took them away from Saudi Arabia and put one
in Iraq who was four year old, and another one in Jordan so
that they would never ever have an ability to have the true
leaders of the prophet of Mohammed. So what we have here is
a collusion between Saudi Arabia and the neocon Jews of America
and Israel against a President who whether I like or dislike
and may have lied on Osama Bin Laden, he is the son of a CIA
operative. The grandson of a CIA operative who understands very
well what the issues of intelligence are, including the United
States ambassador who understands very well what happens with
neocons versus --
Jones: Put it in layman's terms though so people
-- [Dr. Pieczenik says something in the background] -- sure,
sure, bottom line, what is the point of killing the ambassador?.
What is the point of turning Al Qaeda --
Dr. Pieczenik: Killing the ambassador is to
precipitate a war so that Israel can finally get into Iran and
try to destroy Iran. It will be the beginning of the end of
Israel. It is Armageddon for Israel. Israel wants to go in,
but it wants to force America to take it out of its trouble
in Iran, because Israel cannot succeed in any flight into Iran.
It is impossible logistically and strategically. Israel lost
every war since '68. There is not one war they have succeeded
in despite what they may say to everybody else. In the last
war where they lost thousands of men, will be a reminder to
the Israeli mothers that every time they send their children
to war, they will die in multiples, and no Americans will come
to help them. Petraeus will not come. Dempsey will not come.
Neither will any other soldiers or intelligence operatives.
So what we have here is an internal strife against Saudi Arabia,
the United States, attacking one of our ambassadors and killing
him in the name of the fact that he was a representative of
the United States and he was an Arabist. Now let me tell you
what an Arabist is very quickly so your audience understands.
They were famous people who helped to develop a treaty, the
only treaty that has ever been done between Israel and a Muslim
country. Egypt was called -- at the Camp David Accord in which
I was privileged to be a member, and one of the most famous
people there was Hermann
Eilts, the ambassador to Egypt. An Arabist. Another one
is Frank Wisner [spelling?] who should have been Secretary of
State. A great foreign service officer. Another person is a
man by the name of Chas
Freeman, who was accused by the neocons of being anti-Israel
because he speaks Arabic. He is a scholar. He is a foreign service
officer. So what you are seeing here is a division within the
United States by Zionists, not Jews only, but the Zionists,
Israeli Mossad operatives and Saudi financing in order to denigrate
the value of our foreign service officers who are trained in
culture, Arabic studies, including April
Glaspie. And the President who got rid of all of our Arabists
under neocon pressure was Clinton. Ironically Hillary Clinton
was trying to maintain the peace. Her husband was totally intimidated
by the neocon Jews to get rid of every Arabist in the
State Department and put in people like Martin
Indyk --
Alex Jones: All right --
Dr. Pieczenik: Martin Indyk was our ambassador
to Israel, was nothing more than an Australian spy who was in
one day, he became an American citizen, was appointed by Dennis
Ross, another neocon who works with Paul Wolfowitz, and
made our ambassador to Israel -- [55:54]
Jones: All right, let me stop you, Doc, Doc,
Doc, we are going to have you back up very early this week for
an hour and a half because you, I mean obviously you need to
go over this whole history for people who don’t understand
it. But, but, but here is the issue. We are about to go to break,
but what I need to understand here is, you have got the British
fleet massing. They never go somewhere unless there is a war.
You have got twenty five nations all gathering. This is hardly
in the news. You have QE Unlimited starting. You have got our
government digging in like it is the end of the world. All the
evidence I see says they are going ahead in October, late October,
with this, and it could lead to World War III. Is that accurate?
Dr. Pieczenik: That is accurate. It could be
earlier than October because we have Yom
Kippur, and I predicted on your radio show, and I predicted
to our national security people privately that Bibi Netanyahu
would start something on Rosh
Hashanah. This was over a year ago, and I said it on your
radio show. He was as predictable as a clock. And the Israelis
will be very predictable on Yom Kippur. In a couple of weeks
they will try to initiate another war unless their ex-Mossad
operatives and their ex-Shin Bet will take out Netanyahu, and
do to Netanyahu what happened to Rabin. They know what I am
talking about. Otherwise this -- he will bring down Israel,
the world, and there will be a Third World War. [Editor's Note:
At this point the online video version cuts out, and returns
at 1:00:23 below. The following is from the MP3 version]. Turkey
is trying to help us, Russia is trying to help us, Syria is
trying to help us --
Jones: Well Dr. Pieczenik, I think everybody
knows what you are talking about right there. Again, I am in
over my head. This is pretty hard core stuff. All I know is
I want peace. I do not want a world war. I see the police, everybody
digging in for what they say is the end of America, and I don’t
like it. I don’t like where this is going because a bunch
of people want the end of the world. People in Israel, people
in Iran, and a bunch of Christians who I don’t think are
very Christian. We will be right back, stay with us. Second
hour coming up, this is real radio. [Start of break
at 57:47, end of break at: 1:00:23]
Jones: Ladies and gentlemen, we are back live.
Ladies and gentlemen, you know I am just absolutely stunned
right now by the things that Dr. Pieczenik is talking about.
Clearly the way the mainstream media is absolutely pouncing
on and going after Obama is just so clear. I don't like Obama.
I hate him. I hate his socialism, his anti-gun, all of it. I
wish Romney was an alternative. I am not saying vote for either
one of them. I know that Pieczenik is apolitical when it comes
to this. Doc, we only have about five minutes left. You have
really dropped some bomb shells here, but most analysts say
this could easily lead to World War III. And the neocons are
trying to destabilize Russia and overthrow them, trying to turn
them into a new enemy, a new arms race. Doesn't the military
industrial complex know that if they start World War III, there
won't be anywhere to spend all that money they are getting?
Dr. Pieczenik: Well the military industrial
complex at this point is totally denuded. What they are afraid
of is the $2 trillion sub-, sub[unintelligible], the decrease
in money they are going to get in the military. But the military
right now is divided. What you have is military generals who
have had experience and who no longer want to go into Iraq and
Afghanistan and have told the President and others."This
is enough. We have to get out of the sand box," as General
Petraeus says, "And we have to leave." "We have
a bigger issue that is much more important than the Middle East
for us, and that is cyber war," as Keith
Alexander said, and the issue is [as] Obama said, East Asia,
the Pacific, and China's growing influence.
Jones: The United States has lost all of
its soft power by going in there, among other things, to "help"
Israel. And notice these invasions haven't helped Israel. Israel
is more insecure than ever.
Dr. Pieczenik: That is correct, because of
their own paranoia and continuous paranoia and insecurity, they
keep feeding it in a loop and what happens is there are soldiers
who are no longer equipped. Remember, these are not the same
Zionists that came in and established the state of Israel in
1948, which, by the way, they then committed in 1948 euthanasia
and genocide which subsequently the Israelis admitted to.
Jones: The ring worm children.
Dr. Pieczenik: They did it to the Palestinians.
Jones: Well they also killed a bunch of the
Sephardi Jews with the radiation. You know about that?
Dr. Pieczenik: Yes, I also know that they created
a lot of agitation and propaganda in Morocco in order to force
the Moroccan Jews to leave a very friendly friend to the Jews,
King
Hassan of Morocco. So the Israelis and the Zionists have
created, have used the Jews of the diaspora, that means the
Polish, Russian Jews, and Sephardi
Jews, as a weapon to manipulate world opinion, to create
agitation propaganda, in the same way Saudi Arabia is using
their people, the Salafis,
to be the thug men against the United States, and use it in
the term of Al Qaeda or any form they want. But Saudi Arabia,
which is falling apart now, because it is only a second or third
generation illegitimate ruling class, from an illegitimate king,
is now in the process of falling apart. Both states, Israel
and Saudi Arabia are in desperate situations and they are trying
to force America back into the Middle East.
Jones: You have got Dempsey
Dr. Pieczenik: Obama correctly
is saying, "No," while Petraeus is saying, "No."
While Dempsey is saying, "We will not go to war to protect
you." [1:03:46]
Jones: Well Doc, in closing, we are going to
get you back up in the next few days. We appreciate your time,
stevepieczenik.com.
Dr. Pieczenik: It is my pleasure and thank
you.
Jones: But I mean, in closing, you did confront
Dempsey. You told us about it. Later he came out after that
and said, "Hey, don't blame the U.S. or me if Israel attacks."
I think the answer, short of what you were talking about, which
I certainly don't want earlier, is to have our military and
our government unify and say, "We are not going to do this,
stop it!" Because if they don't call this out -- this looks
like false flag city to me, because if elements in Israel are
this arrogant right now, they might pull a false flag. What
do you say in twenty seconds?
Dr. Pieczenik: They absolutely pulled a false
flag. This is a false flag. Our military clearly pointed out
to me that the Libyan embassy was very far away when they had
two days notice and basically --
Jones: I tell you what, do two more minutes.
We have our next guest coming up, but do two more minutes, one
minute break. Come back and make the point about embassy security.
Dr. Pieczenik is our guest. [Break begins at 1:04:55. End of
break at 1:06:17. The online video version recommences at "Navy
SEAL and Telegraph" below].]
Jones: Well, he has been a top hostage negotiator
for the State Department. He wrote their book on psychological
warfare. He has overthrown governments. Navy SEAL and Telegraph
saying he manipulated the Communists he was fighting against
to kill the Prime Minister of Italy. He will never talk about
that on air, every time I bring that up. He served four or five
presidents. He was a colonel before that from the Vietnam era
in black ops. We have only got a few minutes left with Dr. Pieczenik
who is [a] Jack Ryan character. Clancy said that is
a composite of Dr. Pieczenik and a few others, but that he helped
write those books. He is one of the experts helping Tom Clancy.
He has also had his books put into major films. He is a very
accomplished person. He is a big deal. And he is here telling
us this, and he is communicating with intelligence agencies
all over the world right now through this show. And you can
take away from this what you want. I don't think you are idiots.
So I will bring on high powered guests who will have discussions
that go on behind the scenes at the Pentagon, the high level
brass meetings, and the highest levels of the Council on Foreign
Relations. This guy has worked for George Bush senior. Worked
right under Henry Kissinger, I am not going to get into it all,
but I mean he is definitely from the major power structure.
And the fact that he is here saying these types of things --
he has been on and off the show for ten years -- really is frightening
because he is not pulling any punches now. I mean Dr. Pieczenk
knows where the bodies are buried. Doc, you are going to be
back with us Tuesday for an hour and a half --
Dr. Pieczenik: Yes.
Jones: Because this is moving quickly, World
War III.
Dr. Pieczenik: Right.
Jones: Financial collapse, that is why all this is
happening. But talk about the embassy and the killing of the
ambassador in Benghazi and the point you have made that your
average Jihadis basically could not do this, and the message
that was sent, and how that ties into your sources. You were
telling me off air that your Pentagon sources, I mean, they
know who really killed this guy and the message it is meant
to send.
Dr. Pieczenik: Well the message it was meant
to send, the Pentagon source that informed me that the distance
between the Libyan embassy where our ambassador was, and where
the rioters were, was so large, and two days of delay in response,
meaning simply that they were professionals ready to take out
our ambassador who is an Arabist. And the reason I say he is
an Arabist is because basically they wanted to kill him because
he was too influential in the Arab world. He was too dangerous
to Israeli interests, to Saudi interests, and to certain American
national security interests run by the neocons. Now when we
say that Obama is like Carter, I worked for Jimmy Carter, and
Jimmy Carter was the only President of the United States to
ever make a Camp David peace accord. The only President of the
United States to implement human rights issues, and the only
President of the United States to fire 4,000 -- listen to me
very carefully -- 4,000 human operatives of the CIA. He realized
how disastrous the CIA had been. What General Eisenhower said
all along, that this is the legacy of ashes, and it will destroy
our country until we contain and restrain the CIA. This is where
Jimmy Carter, a great President in retrospect, and I think Obama
should be very proud of him, but the neocons have degraded him
to say this is our Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter was our only President
who ever made a peace treaty with Israel -- I worked with Anwar
Sadat, I worked with Menachem
Begin, I worked with Hermann Eilts --
Jones: You got arrested by Assad
--
Dr. Pieczenik: -- Chas Freeman. These were
great men.
Jones: Well some day you have got to come on
and talk about all the amazing things that you did. I know that
most of it is classified, but you know what is --
Dr. Pieczenik: Its not. I'll talk about it,
but let's have some more time, and I want to talk to you on
air and thank them for listening. And thank you.
Jones: Let me ask this question briefly here,
Dr. Pieczenik.
Dr. Pieczenik: Sure.
Jones: What is the strategy, because I know
you were on here a few months criticizing Obama. I mean, again
I am apolitical. I am not Romney or Obama. I want to get your
perspective. I respect your view and perspective. We are going
to get another one here in a moment. I want listeners to really
hear this inside info for themselves and decide if they think
it is accurate or not. But how do they think they are going
to get away with this, putting Al Qaeda --.
Dr. Pieczenik: They are going to get away with
it because, as I told you on the last show, there is a real
issue that Dempsey had presented to the whole group of us that
our American military is really concerned about, and that is
a few minutes of delay time, of prepositioning time that Israel
will not give the United States, and they will launch an attack,
which [is] presumably by Netanyahu and the Israeli Defense Forces
strategy, will think will force us into saving them from total
destruction. And the answer is Netanyahu has no idea that Petraeus
will not save him, Dempsey will not save him, our Navy will
not save him, McRaven will not save him, neither will Obama.
He cannot get that message through. So he is pushing this through
until he kills one of our ambassadors, precipitates what we
call agitation propaganda, only with the approval of
Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia and Israel are twins. They are doppelgängers.
There is no way you can separate Israel from Saudi Arabia. Saudi
Arabia and Israel, they go back all the way back to 9/11. They
go back to the days when Jimmy Carter fired 4,000 operatives,
because these people went to Saudi Arabia, those people who
were left in the agency went to Saudi Arabia. The Mossad, and
the Pakistani ISI took [them to] reconstitute an intelligence
service which was totally illegal. Many of those who came in
the Carter administration, Jews like Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk,
who was an operative underneath the Australian government, and
was an American citizen for only one day was appointed an American
Ambassador to Israel so Dennis Ross the neocon could control
him — [1:12:18]
Jones: All right, well let me stop right there,
stop right there Doc. We will be back on Tuesday to break this
down, but bottom line, the twenty five fleets, this is London
Telegraph, Associated Press, are converging. Twenty five
nations are converging on the strategically important Strait
of Hormuz. They have never done this in the last five years
of saber rattling. My intel is right now Israel has tentatively
green lit an attack any time in the next month and a half against
Iran. Iran will then attack U.S. bases all over the Middle East
with their missiles, drawing the United States in. By having
the Al Qaeda groups that Saudi Arabia runs start attacking U.S.
facilities, they believe that will create a sympathetic response
domestically in the U.S. for a call to attack Arabs, because
people are politically and geopolitically totally ignorant,
to the level of basically being brain dead, and so now there
is this saber rattling "Yeah, let’s bomb the Arabs."
You can see the manipulation, the propaganda is what targeted
about a five year old mentality. Briefly, do you concur with
that analysis? [1:13:26]
Dr. Pieczenik: Yes. Basically I will summarize
it in this. As Hitler created the first Holocaust of the Jews,
Netanyahu will be responsible for the second Holocaust of the
Jews in the 21st century. He will be the Hitler of the 21st
century to the Jews. On this New Years Eve this is what I say
about Netanyahu. He was part of 9/11. He was part of the conspiracy,
the agitation propaganda, the killings, and now the agitation
for precipitation of war. When that war goes we will have a
holocaust and a pogrom the likes of which we haven’t seen
since the days of Hitler. He is our new Hitler.
Jones: Whoa. OK, wow. Dr. Pieczenik, thank
you so much, we will talk to you Tuesday.
Dr. Pieczenik: My pleasure, bye.
Jones: All right, there he goes. We have Dr.
Webster Griffin Tarpley waiting, and I did not even know this
would go in this direction. I am in way over my head, and I
study this stuff 24/7. Folks, if you knew who Dr. Pieczenik
was, I mean, he has been in every black op
you can imagine. He is the guy Jack Ryan is based on in Patriot
Games. I mean, Webster Tarpley is a doctor of history,
an economist who has been all over the world. Been to Tripoli,
under bombardment. Just been to Syria. Pieczenik has been arrested
by Assad's
dad before, back when he was the leader. It is just so wild.
I don't know what to say about this. Pieczenik is pulling no
punches. I mean I had no idea that would even go in that direction.
As for Netanyahu being Hitler, again, I don't have a dog in
this fight. I just want my Bill of Rights and Constitution.
I don't want World War III. And you have got two famous Jews,
like Netanyahu and you have got Pieczenik who is Jewish, over
there in this fight going on. [Ed. Note: online video version
stops here]. It is above my pay grade, I will tell you right
now. We are going to the break, Webster Tarpley for the rest
of the hour, who I highly respect on this issue. Geopolitically
there are few people I respect more. In fact, he is incredible
in his historical understanding and analysis, and I am somebody
who is somewhat learned. We'll just leave it at that. And we
are going to come back with him. I am just absolutely flabbergasted
right now, and I am speechless. But you are going to see a lot
of wild stuff happen, folks, because the dollar is going into
hyperinflation, they are gearing up for martial law in the U.S.
That is now publicly admitted. 1.4 billion bullets for us. The
Russians are lining up for war, the Western interests are trying
to overthrow Russia, stirring them up. There are fleets off
the coast of China menacing them. Japan is being agitated into
conflict with China, and you have got just all this craziness
taking place. This is the stuff you see before World Wars. We
will be back. [1:15:59]
Editor's
Additional Notes
I downloaded and scanned through the Tuesday
18 September show, and Alex Jones did not have Dr. Pieczenik
back on for a repeat interview as promised many times in the
interview above. Nor was he back on during any of the Monday,
Wednesday, and Thursday shows which I also downloaded and scanned.
Then I went to Dr. Pieczenik's web site at: https://stevepieczenik.com/
and discovered his side of the story, as well as those of many
of his readers:
Twitter: Steve Pieczenik @StevePieczenik
https://twitter.com/StevePieczenik
18 September 2012
Steve Pieczenik ?@StevePieczenik [wrote]
Alex Jones just pulled me off his 1:30 show today. He was intimidated
by the very people we talked about. no worries, truth will prevail.
At his blog: https://stevepieczenik.com/blog.html
Dr. Pieczenik
Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Okay, no Alex Jones today! Just got a call from info wars, canceling
my interview. I think Alex was intimidated by the very people
and organizations that we were talking about. Stay tuned, more
to come.
Posted by Steve Pieczenik at 8:30 AM
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