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Interview Transcript
Transcribed by William B. Fox,
Publisher, America First Books
as a public service.
Alfred Webre:
Welcome back. I am Alfred Webre and today we are honored to
have independent scientist Leuren Moret, who is here from Berkeley
California, to give us an update which is tentatively entitled,
"HAARP, Hurricane Isaac Psyops and Foreshadowing a FEMA-Predicted
California Megaquake." Welcome Leuren.
Leuren Moret: Thank you, another great interview!
[laughter]
Webre: Good! Well, we have seen quite a bit
of ionosphere, upper atmosphere and on the ground,. political
theater and PSYOPs with Isaac vis a vis the GOP Convention in
Tampa, as well as perhaps some foreshadowing along the California
coast. And for those who might not remember, in January of 2001,
when George W. Bush was first elected, FEMA issued three warnings.
Number one, of a terrorist attack in New York. That was 9/11,
a false flag. Number two, of a destructive hurricane in New
Orleans. That was Katrina in 2005, another false flag. And three,
of the California megaquake or West Coast megaquake. Well, that
hasn't happened yet, but there is perhaps some foreshadowing
that happened along with the California [earthquake swarms]
with the hurricane Isaac PSYOPs. And Leuren, you are here to
parse all of that out for us, is that correct?
Moret: Yes
Webre: OK, so you have some evidence to share
with us starting with Hurricane Isaac. That it was HAARP-controlled.
Evidence from the satellite weather tracking.
Moret Yes, actually a web site called chemtrailsplanet.net
had three video clips of Hurricane Isaac moving through the
Gulf region and coming into, well actually it split, and part
of it went off to Florida to hit the Republican National Convention
in Tampa. But the most part, the biggest part of that hurricane
went directly into New Orleans. So if you watch those satellite
video clips, and that is U.S. Government data, you can actually
see very, very, very heavy chemtrailing on both sides of Hurricane
Isaac as it moved into the Gulf region coming from an easterly
direction. Then these chembombs started going off inside the
hurricane. They look like two big mushroom clouds, mushroom
explosions, mushrooming up through the hurricane. It was actually
in Bernard Eastland's patent application for his HAARP concept,
his HAARP invention, that I first read about shooting rockets
of chemicals and radioactive materials into the atmosphere to
facilitate HAARP. So certainly if they are spraying chemicals
all over the skies and they are associated with weather modification,
they could also shoot these rockets with the chemicals into
the hurricane as well and change the direction or whatever the
intended chemical effect is. And basically it looked like in
these video clips as Hurricane Isaac moved across the Gulf that
it changed these chemical bombs in the hurricane. Changed the
direction to the northwestern direction and also towards New
Orleans, and then it split the hurricane. Split off a piece
of it to direct into Tampa, Florida. I have never seen or heard
of that happening before, but it is right there on the U.S.
Government satellites, so it is hard to say that it didn't happen.
It certainly did.
Moret: So then, one would say that there probably
is an elaborate scripting much as you would script special effects
for this sort of weather warfare, psychological weather warfare
against the American mainland. Against the U.S. population,
and against the political system.
Moret: Yes.
Webre: There would be an elaborate script that
is well thought out.
Moret: It took years, decades to plan this
and to carry it out. None of these things are overnight events.
It takes a very long time to plan them and to develop all the
technologies and test them as well. So there are three reasons
why I believe that Hurricane Isaac was HAARP-controlled. The
evidence is certainly there in the satellite weather tracking,
U.S. Government. Number one, is that it was exactly
the seventh anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. On that very
day. Now there are photographs that I was able to find
at the time of Prince Charles with Camilla,
his wife, standing on the levee in New Orleans right after Hurricane
Katrina. It was very unusual. Why would Prince Charles go to
the New Orleans disaster? Why in the world would he do that?
But there he was standing on the levee, and it was covered by
the BBC and other news outlets in England. They made quite a
big deal of it, and it is actually in a collection of BBC photos.
It is called "Prince Charles and Camilla in Pictures."
It was one of the featured events or appearances they made in
their marriage. So to the British and the British Royal family
and to the City of London financiers it must have been very
significant. When you look at the political agenda and the economic
agenda behind manipulating Hurricane Isaac in the manner that
they did, it is pretty obvious why the British are so interested
in New Orleans. So, first of all there is a political agenda.
We all know that the Republican National Convention was held
in Tampa, Florida. It happened to be right in the path of the
split Hurricane Isaac. I have never heard of splitting a hurricane,
but they sure did. That would be to disrupt the celebrations
by the Republicans over their candidates Romney, and what is
the other guy's name? His Vice President [running mate]? I can't
remember. Anyway, it actually resulted in a comparison in the
minds of the American people, comparing Obama's response to
Hurricane Isaac to George Bush's response to Hurricane Katrina,
which was a total failure and a tremendous embarrassment to
the Republicans. So it is unavoidable that Americans listening
to Obama's public address and his warnings to people in the
New Orleans area to take heed and obey efforts to relocate them,
or to remove them from harm's way, to evacuate them. What actually
happened is that in some areas the houses were under water.
People were on the roofs. We will talk about that later in the
details. We are just kind of outlining this right now. And then
of course this is all to persuade the outcome of the election
which will be in November.
Webre: Now I don't blame you for not remembering
the name of Mitt Romney's running mate.
Moret: Ryan.
Webre: But it is Paul Ryan
Moret: Yes.
Webre: And of course Cathy O'Brian claims that
there is a long mind control history in the Romney's, and that
Mitt Romney and his wife used mind-controlled slaves. His father
has a long history of implementing mind control techniques,
and in fact wanted to implement those techniques in the Mormon
Church.
Moret: Ryan is very, very, very deep CIA. He
is extremely well-connected for a long time with the Mossad.
He has been involved in very, very extremely dirty activities,
illegal criminal activities with the Mossad and other entities
that I will not name right now. But he is a very shady character,
believe me, and the worst thing is that he is a Mormon.
Webre: That is Mitt Romney you are talking
about [being a Mormon].
Moret: Yes.
Webre: So that it seems here that HAARP, which
we know is controlled by an international war crimes racketeering
organization through 17 sites and not just one nation, seems
to be playing for the Democrats, for Obama, which suggests that
Obama's higher ranking in the New World Order pantheon of the
Pope, the Queen, and the Obama.
Moret: Well, you could see the tremendous welcome
reception that Queen Elizabeth gave Obama and his wife on every
visit to England, and that is very significant, because I am
sure they are very racist, the royal family, and the Obamas
are African Americans. But this isn't really an election between
the Republican candidate and the Democratic candidate. Because
both of them are funded and selected by the Rockefellers and
by the City of London financiers such as the Rothschilds. So
they dont' really care who wins, it is just the same as the
Hegelian dialectic, pretend enemies that they create for wars,
because every time they win, every time they win on the wars
because they fund both sides and drive them into enormous debts
they can't pay off for centuries. In the elections they fund
both sides, and both sides are agents for the Rockefellers and
the Rothschilds ultimately. So, you know, it is just a silly
game to convince Americans that they are actually voting, that
they actually make a difference, that they are actually making
a choice that is their choice, but in fact it is just the Rockefellers
getting re-elected every time and that guarantees there is no
change. I think the reason Obama is going to be reelected, is
so that he can carry out the unification of North America. That
is what his main assignment is as President for two terms. It
involves the NAFTA Highway, it involves Big Oil drilling in
the Gulf region and the Arctic region, if they have their way.
BP and Shell, British Petroleum and Shell are both owned by
Queen Elizabeth. Shell is partly owned, it is shared with the
Queen of the Netherlands, so it is really the gangsters in tiaras,
Queen Elizabeth and Queen Beatrice, who are the ultimate players
in this whole global New World Order nightmare that we are unwillingly
a part of.
Webre: So you say there is a political agenda,
and now you have begun to cover the economic agenda. Of course
this record drought in North America, in the U.S. actually,
in the U.S. because Canada is kind of fine, funny enough, it
is having a perfect harvest, but farmers are looking at famine
in the Midwest to drive up food prices. Isn't that funny that
just the U.S. is being targeted by Mother Nature? Of course
it is not Mother Nature, it is HAARP, correct?
Moret: It is absolutely HAARP. So let us look
at the economic agenda. This is a global famine that is being
engineered to depopulate the whole planet which is their main
agenda. Certainly the farmers in the Midwest have been severely
impacted by this drought all summer long. Pretty much the corn
and soybeans are a loss. If this Hurricane Isaac makes it into
the Midwest and brings rain it will help the wheat. But the
wheat has not been damaged as much as soybean and corn. I mean
there are so many products that they use soybean and corn in,
that is definitely going to raise the food prices. Big Oil is
going to raise the gasoline prices, the energy prices. It is
just another way to bleed the Americans dry, and to drive the
middle class down into the lower class. A two class system is
what they really want.
Webre: Right. So part of the economic agenda
that you mentioned then includes the Gulf and Arctic drilling
which Obama approved on what, today? This is being recorded
August 30, 2012.
Moret: Right. That is right.
Webre: HAARP you indicated will be used to
melt the Arctic Ice, to open up the Northwest passage.
Moret: Well they have actually done that now.
There are starting to be articles coming out with ships sailing
though the Arctic Sea, the Arctic Ocean. They have used HAARP
to melt the Arctic Ocean, the Arctic Sea, the Arctic ice. But
that can also change very quickly with just a very small change
in the temperature there. But this is so that Big Oil, also
this is Shell and BP can drill up there. And the requirement
to have a share in the Arctic and the Antarctic mineral resources,
and there are tremendous resources, especially in the Antarctic,
is that a country has to be geologically connected in structure
to the Arctic or to the Antarctic. And Canada, I believe that
Britain, Russia, they all have geologic connections to the Arctic,
so they are going to share in basically the oil resources there.
Canada would also give them access. I think that the main reason,
well I am certain that England has held on so tenaciously to
the Falkland Islands, is because geologically it is connected
to the Antarctic, and by holding on to the Falklands Islands
despite the fact that they really belong to Argentina, Britain
will share in even greater mineral resources in the Antarctic.
So this all about getting richer and richer and richer. Since
the Queen of England is a sovereign ruler, she owns all the
people. She owns all the mineral rights to the Commonwealth,
that is over 27 countries I believe and territories. She owns
all of the offshore mineral rights to the whole Commonwealth.
So my question is, she appears to be a penny pincher, and thrifty
and everything, but that woman is worth over $35 trillion just
in the land that she owns. A man that I know who worked in her
platinum factory in England, she has a platinum factory too,
he said that woman is so rich she could bulldoze England and
the British Isles into the Atlantic Ocean and she would never
miss the money.
Webre: Now, returning to Hurricane Isaac here,
which is of course, what you are saying is directed by the British
throne, by the City of London, those strategic interests,
with the Rockefellers as their kind of American subcontractors,
and you are saying that Barack Obama, of course he may have
been pre-identified by DARPA time travel also. [Editor's Note:
In regard to this mention of "DARPA time travel,"
please see my Extended Note at the
end of this interview]. Isaac seems to have been set up
to deliver a knockout blow to Romney, to the GOP Convention.
Moret: -- With a Biblical name, excuse me.
Webre: Yes, Oh sure. Then to come in and open
up the agenda that you were talking about for Obama's second
term, which is the regionalization and unification of North
America, including the NAFTA Superhighway from Mexico to Canada
with U.S. interior ports. Could you talk a bit more about that?
Moret: Well that is very, very interesting.
We are not just talking about a hurricane, we are talking about
huge world-changing agendas. We as Americans and the Canadians
and the Mexicans are right in the middle of this scheme without
even knowing about it. But the NAFTA
Superhighway basically is going to be funded by American
taxpayers. It is also a huge land-grab agenda. It is basically
from Mexican ports where China and other countries will be sending,
transporting their goods. They will be loaded on trains and
trucks on these superhighways from Mexico through Texas up through
the Mississippi River area into Canada. The proposed NAFTA Superhighway
will end at the Saskatchewan
Legislature, the building which is a Masonic building. When
I investigated with a Texan the states that the superhighway
will be going through, I know that in many of them that road
goes right through the Scottish Masonic Headquarters of the
Masons in multiple states. It is very clear after Bush served
as President for two terms, and lived on his ranch in Crawford,
Texas, just a few miles from Waco, Texas, that is where the
headquarters for Texas is of the Scottish Masonic Rite Masons.
That is a huge drug activity center, probably for the whole
United States, because Rothschild pretty much owns Texas, and
they always have even before it was a state.
Webre: So what you are saying is that there
is an intimate connection between Dope Inc., the City of London
and its 13 bloodline fundings, the Dope, Inc families that go
back to the reign of George III with the certain aristocratic
families that control the drug trade, the worldwide Masons,
and now the New World Order rollout of the NAFTA Superhighway,
and the North American unification. They are kind of all working
hand in hand.
Moret: That is correct, that is correct. Now
the plans for the NAFTA Superhighway are horrifying.
I have just been reading about Map 21, I think that is what
it is called. It is a bill in Congress that was spearheaded
by Senator Barbara Boxer from California. She has been the largest
recipient of AIPAC campaign contributions of anyone in Congress.
So she is working directly or indirectly or both directly and
indirectly for the City of London financiers. So if she is spearheading
that superhighway in Texas, why isn't a member of the Texas
legislature doing that, the legislators I mean. She has got
to have a tie-in to London. Certainly Senator Diane Feinstein
does as well. So what this Superhighway proposed through Texas,
it is a $300 billion project. The laws in Texas only require
that a freeway have constructed overpasses so that people can
go under the freeway only where there are major intersections.
So they had designed this superhighway through Texas with only
four underpasses. The whole entire length of Texas
from the Mexican border to the border of Oklahoma. Now that
just cuts the state in half, and how in the world do people
with ranches, or commuting to jobs, or living in a town that
is split by this superhighway, how do they get back and forth
without driving a quarter of the way through Texas? It is really
crazy. It also is a major land grab because they get land on
both sides of that superhighway. It is like the railroads that
got every other section of land throughout the whole United
States. It is really the Rothschilds who built covertly the
U.S. railway system. So they happen to be the biggest land owners
in the United States with those alternate sections of land throughout
the U.S. Another thing that this bill allowed was for the Spanish
company [sound glitch in the video] scheme in Texas was for
a Spanish company called Cerna, something like Cerna [Editor's
Note: Cintra, mentioned
in NAFTA
Super Highway Debate Inflames Texas Governor's Race by
Jerome Corsi, Human Events, Nov 4, 2006], and so the
super highway was not even being built by an American company
or owned by one, yet they got all the easements. They got the
land. They got special perks like they could borrow money from
pension funds without the knowledge or agreement of people in
the pension funds. One of these schemes, a superhighway they
planned to build in California, went bankrupt, so $60 or $68
million dollars that belonged to people who planned to retire
with that money, it was all stolen from them. So it really does
have, the NAFTA Superhighway really does has the British stamp
all over it. I am quite certain that Spanish company was just
a cover story for the British involved in it.
Webre: Right, or it could have been Rothschild-controlled,
because Rothschild companies control Spain.
Moret: Right.
Webre: The governor of Texas was a visible
participant at the Bilderberger meetings over these past several
years. That is probably the contractual connection there.
Moret: I think you are right. It think you
are absolutely right. I think it wouldn't be very hard to find
out. So now this involves not just Mexican ports, but it also
involves maybe even more importantly interior ports in the U.S.
And that refers to the ports along the Mississippi River which
go all the way to the Canadian border, almost. So you can begin
to see what this agenda is for unification of North America.
NAFTA is a land grab. It is depopulation. It is relocation of
people against their will. It is stealing their land, disrupting
their financial activities, and grabbing a lot of land in the
heart of our food producing area other than California. So this
would also be a way to get oil and tar sands and things like
that into the U.S. to be refined here. Canadian oil and tar
sands at our refineries. We see now why New Orleans is so important
because that is the mouth of the Mississippi River. That is
right on the Gulf. There are lots of oil refineries there. Who
is drilling now in the Gulf? It is BP and Shell. British Petroleum,
despite the platform disaster that happened two years ago in
the Gulf, poisoning the whole shoreline and depopulating the
Gulf region, they have five deepwater wells now as of the beginning
of 2012. They are planning to have three new ones, increasing
by more than 50% their holdings and their pumping in the Gulf
region. Now the U.S. government is only getting $350 million
a year as their share of the revenue, which seems quite ridiculous
when you realize that Shell oil has spent $10 billion over the
last five years to get the rights, the oil rights, contracts,
to drill in the Beaufort
Sea, which is on the North Slope of Alaska in the Arctic.
That has never been drilled before, I don't believe. Finally,
Obama gave them the OK today. So he is also a Big Oil guy too.
Webre: Right, right. Now let's come back to
Hurricane Isaac and kind of look at that. How that was micro-managed
and did its political damage at the GOP, but then came up for
a second weather warfare false flag attack against New Orleans,
could you talk a bit about that?
Moret: Yes.
Webre: On the seventh anniversary to the
date.
Moret: Right, on the seventh anniversary to
the date. Well we know that it was a HAARP-manipulated event
or scam, with evidence of chemtrails and chembombs literally
used. Isaac also impacted Haiti, and you know that was not very
long ago. A few years ago there was a big HAARP-triggered earthquake
which destroyed the infrastructure of Haiti. This was within
a few months of the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds buying
the mineral rights to about 50% of Haiti. The Haitians had never
sold them before because they wanted the mineral rights for
themselves. You know, if you really want to get on the bad side
of these people for centuries ahead, you just win a black slave
revolution. The slave revolution in Haiti was the only successful
one in the history of the world. They have been attacked and
undermined and burdened with horrific destruction of their culture,
their country, everything, so the earthquake destroyed the whole
infrastructure. I mean, people are living in tents now and outside.
How can they resist superpowers going in and taking over the
mineral rights, and just looting the country? When a lot of
them were sent to the Dominican Republic for medical care, they
came back with arms and legs cut off. That is what the Dominican
Republic did, disabled them even more. So 23 people, not very
many people know this, were killed by Hurricane Isaac and there
was a tremendous amount of damage to Haiti as well. Now, Isaac
continued on across the Gulf, and when it hit south of New Orleans,
it slowed down. It stalled. And what happens when a hurricane
or a storm slows down or stalls is that it creates tremendous
increased flooding..The parish south of New Orleans that was
impacted was a poor parish that was not part of the Federal
system that got new levees as a result of the hurricane disaster
in New Orleans. So it wasn't reported here, maybe once or twice.
I think it was once on CNN, but that report disappeared very
quickly. I did find it in the Telegraph and BBC in
England. They covered it. They reported people were on roofs,
they could not be rescued due to the 80 mile per hour winds.
The rain was 20 inches in just a day or so and caused severe
flooding. Now it is headed for Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama.
They expect a lot of damage. Much more damage there than happened
in New Orleans, with the exception of this parish. So Happy
Anniversary New Orleans!
Webre: Right, right. Now could we talk a bit
more about the offshore drilling, because we almost had an extinction
level event with the BP oil spill if the Gulf Stream had been
interrupted to a significant degree, which may have been the
design of the false flag operation there. And yet you are saying
that offshore oil drilling, which was once prohibited in the
U.S., is now being relaxed in the Gulf of Mexico and in the
Arctic and in Alaska.
Moret: That is correct, because a law was passed
I believe in 1981 in response to the big oil spill and drilling
disaster offshore from Santa Barbara in Southern California,
there was no drilling allowed offshore in the United States
or Alaska. The Big Oil companies have been really putting tremendous
pressure in many ways on Congress and the U.S. Government and
politicians and anyone who was a decision-maker, influential
in any way, to allow them to drill offshore. Now, McCain
was for drilling everywhere. He said "Drill here, drill
now." That was his motto. He would have opened up all of
the coastlines to drilling and that is probably one of the reasons
he lost. But Obama was much more conservative and more resistant
to that offshore drilling. Also the Republicans were very tepid
about McCain's scheme. They did not support offshore drilling.
So what has happened now is there is offshore drilling, and
they do have oil platforms offshore from Louisiana. There is
a lot of oil there. The offshore drilling and pumping has resumed
now since Hurricane Isaac has passed. But now there is a big
debate about how much to open it up for further contracts in
the Gulf region. Obama seems willing to sell contracts or to
allow the deep sea drilling for British Petroleum and Shell.
There may be other companies involved too. Of course today he
has given the green light to Shell to drill up in the Alaskan
Arctic region. It is really the Arctic Ocean region. So now
Obama may have to prohibit offshore drilling on the East and
West Coasts of the United States, but it is doubtful that Romney
would do that. I think he would allow offshore drilling. It
starts creeping into a couple of states. It would be like Georgia
and maybe South Carolina, but then it begins to creep up the
whole shoreline, and then it ends up on the West Coast too.
They do things in increments, and that is how they are going
to do the NAFTA Superhighway as well, because there is so much
opposition from environmentalists, environmental organizations,
and just the American people are opposed to it, especially after
the Gulf disaster by BP, that is only two years ago. Now Shell
has spent ten billion dollars over five years to get permits
to drill in the Beaufort Sea, and yet the U.S. Government is
allowing oil drilling contracts in the Gulf because they are
going to benefit by $350 million a year. That is like paying
someone five cents to write the Encyclopedia Britannica,
you know for all the time that took, $350 million, that is not
even the budget for one year for the regulatory agency that
regulates offshore drilling and the handling of mineral rights,
the responsibility. So what they are trying to do in order to
do better regulation of deep sea and offshore drilling, is to
raise the liability insurance that is required in order to develop
the contracts. So for a disaster like the BP disaster the lid
was at $75 million. That is all the liability that the oil company
had, and the government is trying to raise it to $10 billion
for oil disasters, but there is a lot of resistance from the
oil companies. What they will do is just raise oil prices and
extract it from the American people. I just think it is -- these
are public lands, you should see how much land the U.S. Government
owns in United States. It is a huge amount. So they are just
doling out the mineral rights for pennies on the billions of
dollars that these mining companies extract from our land. It
is not even our land, it belongs to Native Americans. Native
Americans are being exterminated now so that the Rothschilds
and the Rockefellers can loot their reservations and their mineral
rights. 70% of the energy resources in the U.S. are on Native
American tribal lands. The U.S. Government took away their good
lands, their tribal lands, and gave them the worst land in the
United States, and the irony is that is where 70% of the mineral
resources for energy are.
Webre: Right. Now to shift finally over to
the West Coast and some unusual [fore]shadowing, could you talk
about just the backdrop of the famous FEMA prediction?
Moret: On the day before 9/11, on September
10th, 2001, it was 2001 right?
Webre: Yes
Moret: Yes, yes. FEMA was doing drills in New
York City. FEMA predicted on September 10, 2001 that there would
be three disasters in the United States. One, terrorist disaster.
One was a terrorist event in New York City. It happened the
next day. Two, was a hurricane disaster in New Orleans. That
happened in 2005. The third disaster they predicted was an earthquake
disaster on the West Coast. That hasn't happened yet, but along
with Hurricane Isaac is a very unusual swarm of small earthquakes
that has been reported in Southern California this past week.
I believe there have been earthquakes, was it Costa Rica? It
was somewhere in Central America.
Webre: What drew my attention was the potential
PSYOPs, and that is, off of El Salvadore.
Moret: Oh, El Salvadore, right.
Webre: Which is again a Biblical reference
to the Savior, the Christ. Because then in California the focus
of the potential false flag operation was around the Los Angeles,
Diablo Canyon, Diablo in Spanish means devil--
Moret: Devil!
Webre: So then you have the polarity of the
script of the HAARP operators, or controllers, going to that
Biblical theme that they are using as their script of the Savior
and the Devil, the Diablo Canyon and the nuclear power plant
there, which is Fukushima-like. Could you talk about that?
Moret: It is the Hegelian dialectic over again,
plays on words. The CIA loves anniversaries and plays on words.
OK, the Fukushima disaster in Japan, which happened a year and
a half ago, is located and is at the same latitude and it is
the exact mirror opposite on the other side of the Pacific Ocean
as Fukushima, and that would be Diablo Canyon. San Onofre is
nearly shut down and it may close. So it is unlikely that an
earthquake or nuclear disaster would happen there. Diablo Canyon
and San Onofre were chosen as sites for those two nuclear
power plants because they are directly downwind, I am sorry,
they are directly upwind from the largest dairy areas
in California. So the Fresno, central valley dairy area that
is downwind from Diablo Canyon is providing milk to most of
Southern California, milk and cheese and diary products. Of
course that is all contaminated with Diablo Canyon nuclear emissions.
I have collected something like 250 baby teeth from children
in California with a small group of scientists called the Radiation
Public Health Project. And that would be Dr.
Ernest Sternglass who helped convince the Senate for President
Kennedy to ratify the Partial Test Ban Treaty and that ended
bomb testing. Well it took about ten or twenty more years and
he and Dr. J. Gould realized that fresh fission products were
in children's baby teeth, and they had to be coming from nuclear
power plants in the United States. So there is another genocidal
program that the U.S. Government has carried out. It has especially
targeted African American communities, such as Harlem in New
York City, the ghettoes, or the inner city black communities
in Washington, D.C., Baltimore, Pittsburgh. These are East Coast
cities, which we discovered had very high levels of ionizing
radiation, Strontium 90, in their milk in the Mom and Pop stores
after the Chernobyl levels had declined to almost nothing in
most other cities in the United States. So we began investigating
it and we realized that, we discovered that it was U.S. national
policy to deliberately ship the most radioactive milk and dairy
products into the Mom and Pop stores in poor black communities.
That is why African blacks have the lowest diabetes in the world.
They are very healthy and their children are very healthy until
they come to the United States. As soon as they arrive in the
United States, the health of their children begins to decline.
Also African Americans in the United States have the highest
rates of diabetes probably in the world. That is because the
U.S. Government is deliberately poisoning them with radiation.
So the Diablo Canyon and San Onofre dairy areas are feeding
or providing the dairy products to Southern California. Of course
there is a big Mexican, Hispanic community in Southern California
as well, and there are a lot of poor people. So I would not
think that San Onofre would be the target of a HAARP nuclear
disaster. I call it Kabuki nuclear theater, HAARP theater, but
also the main reason is because the U.S. Navy has a huge
base [in San Diego]. I think it is the biggest one on the West
Coast, with the exception maybe of Seattle. They don't want
to nuke themselves since the Navy is in charge of HAARP, and
in charge of space, it is not the Air Force. So I would think
that Diablo Canyon would be the likely target of this HAARP
event, and of course again it would be a play on the Fukushima
disaster. As of last Christmas 2011, over 100,000 Americans
had died from the Fukushima radiation. What did Obama do when
that disaster happened on March 10 [Ed. Note: she means the
11th] of 2011? He took his family to the Southern Hemisphere
and stayed there for a couple of weeks. So I do not think we
can count on any politicians, Presidents, or government agencies
to protect us any more. It is very obvious that the whole U.S.
community is being targeted with poison food, poison vaccines,
EMF poisoning, and of course all this radiation that is coming
from Japan.
Webre: Right, now let me ask you this question,
and it is really sort of a scientific vetting question, because
a lot of rumors and memes that are floating around the Internet
and elsewhere. There is a large body of opinion that says, "Oh,
look at Hurricane Isaac, look at the swarm of earthquakes in
Southern California, and look at the El Salvador quake and the
other quakes, and this is the part of the end times and is part
of a dwarf star planet X that is approaching our solar system
or some other cause. They are feeding into this scenario that
the earth is having a natural sort of earthquake cataclysm.
Now in your professional opinion then, is the Los Angeles earthquake
swarm, and the El Salvador quake, and the Hurricane Isaac, are
those all environmental warfare by HAARP and chemtrails?
Moret: Well, there is a very easy way to answer
that question. I found a paper, actually a Japanese friend sent
it to me. It is published in a British disaster journal. It
is a new journal that started less than a year before the Fukushima
disaster. This journal is about natural disasters, but actually
there are HAARP-triggered natural disasters, so they have been
assisted by these big antennas that are all over the world to
benefit the bankers. In that article, it was written by two
professors at the University of Tokyo in the wireless transmissions
department. They were able to show by looking at historic earthquakes
in the United States, in Southeast Asia and in Japan, they were
able to identify two groups of earthquakes. One had no ultra
low frequency, in other words HAARP signal. The other group
had the ULF, ultra low frequency signal, which is a result of
HAARP transmissions, although they did not state that in the
journal, but scientists in the know would realize that. I happen
to be a geoscientist with a very long history and very broad
experience, so I picked up on it right away. So the Loma
Prieta earthquake in the San Francisco Bay region had the
ULF signal, and that indicates that the Navy triggered it, they
were offshore fooling around in their ships when that earthquake
occurred. It took down part of the Bay Bridge. It caused one
section to collapse. They are rebuilding a new Bay Bridge now.
They are almost through with it. But then I wanted to know if
the Northridge
earthquake in Southern California, Los Angeles had the ULF
signal, or was it a natural earthquake? Apparently it was a
natural earthquake, it was not HAARP-triggered. The Kobe
earthquake in Japan was HAARP-triggered. It did
have the ULF signal. They even had a map showing the two transmitters
on either side of Kobe that the signals were transmitted from
to cause that earthquake. And then they looked at the Sumatra
earthquake, that had the ULF signature. If we look at the Fukushima
earthquake I can guarantee there is a ULF signal because even
NASA scientists went to MIT right after Fukushima, and they
did a presentation which was posted on the MIT science magazine
web site. They showed exactly how they had transmitted the signal
from Tromso, Norway that boiled water in the earthquake zone
and caused the walls of that earthquake zone to lubricate or
push them apart. The steam expands and unlocks that earthquake
zone. And then three days before the earthquake happened, the
Gakona, Alaska Japan magnetometer, the Japanese have a magnetometer
there, transmitted a 2.5 hertz signal which caused the earthquake.
So even Japan was involved, and they are partners in the Tromso,
Norway HAARP facility, that big transmitter. The partners in
the Tromso, Norway transmitter are Britain, Norway, Sweden,
Finland, China, Japan and Germany. So you see, these are multinational
interests now causing disasters that benefit them in any country,
any fault zone, any nuclear power plant, anywhere they want
to, they can trigger a volcano, or whatever they want to do.
It is incredible, it is absolutely incredible. And then the
mind control aspect is even worse. And that is probably the
main purpose of HAARP, a least Nick Begich told me that he thought
it was to kill the spirituality of the human race. I looked
at the HAARP facilities in the Antarctic, and Japan has three.
The most recent one that was turned on in June of 2011, just
a few months after the Fukushima disaster, went operational
in June, and it is called Pansy, for that lovely little
flower that we love to put in gardens. That is taken from the
French word panse
for thought or thinking. So this nightmare is just beginning,
I am afraid to say. I am sorry to tell people that, but I think
they need to know. You know, the power of the human spirit is
much greater than any military.
Webre: Now do you have any concept or intuition
as to what the script or possible timing of that third predicted
earthquake would be? I mean, maybe they called it off. Maybe
they would put it through. Do you have any thoughts? Will it
come in the second term of Obama? Will it come later? What are
its -- will it come at all?
Moret: It would facilitate the breakdown of
the U.S. and California. It would bankrupt people, it would
facilitate land grabs and grabbing farmland. I mean California
has fabulous farmland. We produce most of the fresh produce
for the United States. 95% of the tomato products. Congress
has cut off water to the central valley farmers. When you drive
from Los Angeles to San Francisco or Sacramento up through that
valley, which is, my God, one of the richest food producing
regions in the world, you drive by miles and miles and miles
of orchards that have died because they have no water. You drive
by acres, thousands of acres of farmland that have no crops
on them because they have no water. Why are we having more and
more food imported into the United States now? If you go to
Trader Joes so many of the food products are imported from other
countries, including fresh produce. So I know that 30 or 40
years ago the Rockefellers had bought up a lot of farmland in
Mexico and they produce a lot of food there that ends up in
the United States. But we are getting food from Chile, in South
America. Why are we getting raspberries from Chile, when we
can grow them here or in Oregon or in Washington State? It is
part of the international financiers taking over the food supply.
Webre: Now, finally, could you give us an update
on Fukushima? We just heard from you that in 2011 there were
100,000 excess deaths in the United States alone from Fukushima
radiation. What are some of the other updates from the Fukushima
false flag events?
Moret: Well there is a very, very clever and
very, very courageous professor. His name is professor Mori
at Tokyo University, and he has been collecting plant material
and insects and animals in Fukushima Prefecture and reporting
on the radiation levels in them and also the mutation rates.
He took a small bird, apparently you don't even hear any birds
any more. It is a silent spring in Japan now in the Fukushima
region. He took a Bush warbler which he found dead on the ground,
and he laid it on photographic paper. He made an autoradiograph
of it. In other words, he left that bird on the paper for about
a month to have the radiation disintegrations recorded on that
photographic, it is like a negative. You could see the wings
had a lot of radioactivity. That would be from dust flying through
the air, the dust particles sticking to the feathers. Also in
the stomach area you could see the outline of the stomach. So,
that would have been the worms or insects that it was eating
that were very radioactive. Now he also took cedar leaves from
cedar trees and
he laid them on that paper. After about a month you could see
they were highly radioactive. He also examined the female and
the male reproductive organs of the cedar tree, and usually
all of the female parts are on one branch, and the male reproductive
tissues are on a separate branch. They don't mix on the same
branch. Well what he was finding was male appendages with female
appendages growing out of the top and bottom of them. So this
is something that has been reported in humans and in fish already,
and that is due to the nuclear weapons and radiological weapons,
depleted uranium and battlefield nukes that the U.S. has been
using in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, and we gave them to
Israel to use in Lebanon. We now have intersex in humans where
the sperm-producing tissues and the ova or the female eggs are
mixed in the same organism, in the same human. So they are people
who are hermaphrodites. They have both male and female sexual
appendages and internal organs. In the fish it is the same thing.
The United States Geological Survey published a report in September
2009. They had examined fish, male fish, in river populations
all over the United States. In some populations 95% of the male
fish demonstrated intersex in their tissues. There was only
one river in the whole United States where the male fish were
normal and that was the Yukon River in Alaska. So this was also
happening to humans in the U.S., and it is happening across
the planet wherever the monsoon rain pattern rains out the radiological
and nuclear fission products into the environment, originating
in Iraq and Afghanistan, Lebanon, Sudan, Somalia, I mean, they
are even using them in the Philippines. So it is changing
the sex ratio. We have an expanding female population in all
species, and a shrinking male population in all species.
Now the Fukushima disaster is having a much more rapid impact
and a much more severe impact, because Dr. Chris Busby in England
was able to determine or calculate that the radiation by April
that was reported in the Japanese atmosphere was the equivalent
of 300 Chernobyls that the British radiation monitoring laboratory
reported in England after Chernobyl happened. So what is happening
in Japan, also the most recent
report by Dr. Mori in June of 2012, he took worms living
in soil in Fukushima Prefecture and he was able to measure the
radiation levels in the worm castings, or the excreta of the
worms. The concentration of radiation was 1,390,000 becquerels.
That is disintegrations per second per kilo of worm castings.
So he said basically every living thing in Fukushima Prefecture
is contaminated with Fukushima radiation. The same thing is
happening over here. Russia Today interviewed me about radioactive
tuna fish, tuna that were caught offshore from San Diego. Oh,
also there was a butterfly study. This is really, really horrifying
because it just going to happen more slowly here. The butterflies
in the first generation, after the Fukushima disaster, he reported
or the study reported about a 24% mutation rate. Now the mutations
that are visible externally, are not all of the mutations. There
are ten times more invisible mutations that are internal or
they have not been expressed yet for every visible mutation
that you can see. By the second generation in these butterflies,
something like 45% or 48% or 44% had mutations, and in the third
generation it was over 50%. So it is just a cascade. It goes
faster and faster and more and more. Once you damage, you mutate
the DNA, if it is in the sperm or the ova, the organism that
is produced from a mutated ova or sperm, is expressed in every
cell of that organism, and is expressed unpredictably in all
future generations of that organism. It never corrects itself.
So this is very, very serious for North America, because we
are directly downwind from basically a permanent point source
of devastating levels of radiation every day. In the Gulf of
Mexico fisherman last summer, they were catching pregnant female
sharks, and when they opened them up, the unborn shark pups
or the embryos, they were bigger than embryos, they were fetuses
really, they had one head and two bodies on the same shark,
baby shark, or two heads and one body. This is called conjoined
twinning, and there is an epidemic of it in the rain pattern,
the areas where the monsoon rain out occurs globally.
Webre: Well, that is quite an update. We want
to thank you for being with us. We have run out of time on this
segment, but we want to invite you back soon so that you can
begin to talk about what remedies we have, or at least what
adaptive modalities we as individuals or families may have to
survive this environmental onslaught.
Moret: Thank you so much Alfred. You have really
given me such a voice and helped me so much in becoming a better
researcher and presenter. I mean, I wouldn't even probably be
doing interviews, I wouldn't be able to give this information
to the public without the support and assistance that you have
given me so generously. So I think all of the audience and especially
myself want to thank you for this tremendous effort to warn
humanity about what is happening around us. It is an invisible
war. Thank you so much.
Webre: Thank you Leuren.
Editor's Extended Note:
Neither this editor nor Leuren Moret necessarily
share Alfred Webre's views when it comes to speculation about
possible "DARPA time travel" phenomena and other "exopolitics"
-related topics. Although Mr. Webre himself is heavily involved
with these topics, we are not. He has normally been pretty good
about staying off "exopolitics"-related topics when
interviewing Ms. Moret to avoid complicating political discussions
with what many readers may consider to be science fiction fantasies.
In my own conversations with Ms. Moret, she has discussed how
many alternative media sources on the Internet that list UFO-related
articles alongside articles containing serious political discussions
are probably Mossad-CIA-MI6-influenced fronts who sprinkle in
science fiction fantasy articles to limit the public audience
for very timely, very important, and very real political
investigations that may threaten the current "establishment."
I am normally very pleased when Mr. Webre helps Ms. Moret gain
wider exposure on YouTube, except when he brings in "exopolitics"-related
material, in which case I feel a strong need to call him out
on this, as I am doing here.
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