The Real Deal

Dr. James Fetzer
erview with

W. Leon Smith
Major William Fox
SFC Buswell

A Tribute to
Captain Eric Holmes May



Eric May as a 1st Lieutenant, U.S. Army Military Intelligence, 8 Nov 1989


Eric May as a Captain in Military Intelligence, smoking a pipe, with the 1st Cav in the field.

Interview recorded
November 12 , 2014


Editor's Note: This is still a work-in-progress subject to review and correction by the various principles involved. Illustration captions and comments inside brackets below have been inserted by William Fox, who also prepared the transcript.


The Real Deal Radio Show


Dr. James Fetzer


Leon Smith
Publisher, The Lone Star Iconoclast

Major William Fox

Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell


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For the Veterans Today version of this transcript,
please link to Part I and Part II.


In this "Ghost Troop Banner," artist David Dees conceptualized Captain May as being a kindred spirit with (clockwise from himself above) COL Ted Westhusing, Spec 4 Alyssa Peterson, civilian activist Rachel Corrie, and CPL Pat Tillman. Many believe that all these individuals were murdered for standing up against a corrupt establishment. (See Chapter 14 of the Mission of Conscience series for more background on each individual).




Part I

W. Leon Smith Interview


Dr. James Fetzer: This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal. Today is a special tribute to Captain Eric May who had an extensive background in military and intelligence activities and proved to be an astute student of current affairs, exposing many false flags and other nefarious activities by our government. There will be three participants in the tribute we are paying to him today; the first being Leon Smith, who was the first to come into contact with Captain May and who published his work; the second being Sergeant First Class Donny Buswell, who was the second to make contact with Eric May; and the third, William B. Fox, who became a very close associate and ally with Captain May. Leon, it is a pleasure to have you here. How did you and Captain May first come into contact?


W. Leon Smith, as pictured with his landmark article "Time to Investigate Houston Is Now," 5 March 2008, The Lone Star Iconoclast. This was a fitting article to place at the end of Chapter 30 of the Mission of Conscience series regarding the likely assassination of CIA operative Roland Carnaby by Houston police under the influence of Israel's Mossad. He published another landmark article regarding the false flag interdiction efforts of Captain May titled: "Captain Eric H. May Deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor" on Feb 2, 2010.


W. Leon Smith: Well, he contacted me because he had been at Camp Casey during Cindy Sheehan's vigil there. I think he gave me a telephone call and we talked a little about his forming Ghost Troop. I was intrigued, of course. Eventually he made a trip to Crawford. We met at the Peace House there and I did an interview with him. He actually sang the Ghost Troop dirge to me with a train roaring in the background. But I had a very thorough interview with him and was very intrigued with what he had to say.


Captain Eric May with activist Kay Lucas at the Crawford, Texas Peace House, dressed in his flamboyant cowboy hat and a black karate gi (uniform). (Eric May was a Second Degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do). This illustration was used for the article "Capt. May...A True Iconoclast!," The Lone Star Iconoclast, Oct 22, 2014. Please also see Chapter 14: "Cindy Sheehan, Camp Casey, and the Info War Martyrs" in the Mission of Conscience series.


Dr. Fetzer: How did he explain to you the concept behind Ghost Troop?
Smith: Well, he said basically that 12 years prior to the Battle of Baghdad, there was apparently a strategy in place to have that battle. It went way back. He had connections with the Bush family. He had applied at one time to be a speech writer for George Bush when he was the Governor of Texas. He knew Karen Hughes. He knew Chase Untermeyer, who was a former Navy Lieutenant. He knew the Bush's very well. Primarily what I think bothered him most about the Battle of Baghdad is that it was never publicized as though it never existed. What they were doing was keying on Jessica Lynch. She was an officer [Ed. Note: actually an enlisted soldier] who been abducted, apparently. All the major media were keying on her rescue and all that, and just ignoring the Battle of Baghdad completely. It was kind of a cover up, is what he considered it.


Captain Eric May in his home with Chase Untermeyer (standing), former Assistant Secretary of the Navy during both the Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush administrations. Untermeyer served as the White House transition team leader between the Reagan-Bush Administrations and as also a U.S. ambassador to Qatar. He helped Eric May land a job as an editorial writer for a Texas TV station, as noted in Chapter 1 of the Mission of Conscience series.


Dr. Fetzer: Undoubtedly get the emotional effect of having a woman in combat to be captured and then play that up if there is something you want to conceal.
Smith: Right, and then of course later we learned it was all bogus on her part [through no fault of her own --she subsequently exposed the establishment propaganda].
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, she was supposed to have shot her way out and all of this. A lot of nonsense was being distributed. This is a fairly classic CIA disinformation operation I think Leon that you and I have come to appreciate so well.


"Jessica Lynch is awarded the Bronze Star, Prisoner of War, and Purple Heart medals on July 22, 2003" (Source: "Jessica Lynch," Wikipedia).


Smith: Right. But as far as the Battle of Baghdad goes, what happened was we utilized what could be considered neutron war heads, which is an enhanced radiation device.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, it is known for destroying people but not buildings or structures.
Smith: Right
Dr. Fetzer: Though I believe there are varieties that have, you know, they can be developed in many different ways. Even neutron bombs appear to have been used during the destruction of the twin towers on 9/11.


As noted in Chapter 2 of the Mission of Conscience series: "General Saifeddin Fulayh Hassan Taha al-Rawi, who commanded Iraqi forces at Baghdad Airport , confirmed that Bush used a neutron bomb in his 9 April 2007 Al Jazeera interview 6 on the fourth anniversary of the fall of Baghdad.  He said that it incinerated about 2,000 elite Republican Guard troops but left buildings intact."


Smith: Well, Captain May had interviewed several soldiers who had been there and got their stories. We lost some soldiers there too, and he felt sorry for the fact that they were not publicized at all. Their deeds were not recorded. I think that went a long way towards his forming Ghost Troop as a memorial to them in a way, but also to continue actions that would perhaps unveil cover-ups.
Dr. Fetzer: To memorialize soldiers who are dead but not forgotten.
Smith: Right. I really think Ghost Troop was a really admirable operation. What happened was whenever we started running the articles of his pertaining to Baghdad and so forth, we started getting a lot of contacts from the underground.
Dr. Fetzer: Where were you publishing them, Leon?
Smith: Where what?
Dr. Fetzer: Where were they published? Where could listeners access them today?
Smith: Well, they were published in the Lone Star Iconoclast, my publication.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, the Lone Star Iconoclast, yes.
Smith: Right.
Dr. Fetzer: Are they all available there today?
Smith: I think they are. I would have to go back and check, but I think most of those are still there.
Dr. Fetzer: So if you did a search on "Lone Star Iconoclast, Captain Eric May" they would turn up.
Smith: They would. You can also go to our site and there is a menu item close to the top that says "archives" I believe or something to that effect. Or maybe it is "page layout." Anyway, you can go look at our previous editions that come up as a PDF file. You can read what the pages actually looked like.
Dr. Fetzer: And you are talking about the page and the web site for the Lone Star Iconoclast.
Smith: Right. If you want to go through our site, it is
Dr. Fetzer: Good, very good. Continue, Leon.
: Well anyway, like I said I was getting a lot of contacts from the underground and from whistle-blowers, as was May, which helped a lot in determining what was about to happen. He had a very keen ability to utilize numerology.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
Smith: To determine dates and things were, [that] could happen or would likely happen.
Dr. Fetzer: Numerological analysis, yes.
Smith: Yes, yes, he was real good at that. He and I would talk occasionally, or frequently, actually, about what was coming up and what the pending dates for false flags might be. And he was accurate probably more than he was not. In fact, he was very accurate. I was really intrigued by that. We did publish a lot of false flag reports. I think he would have agreed that we perhaps stopped some of that from happening just because we had gone ahead and published that. One thing that was happening back then was our publication was being picked up and monitored by a lot of the big nationals, like CBS, they followed our web site. So anyway, with the new information coming in to us from, like I said, various whistle-blowers, and people providing underground information, we were able to determine a lot that was about to happen and a lot that was going on. There were some issues with fires and explosions at oil plants, you know in South Texas that we dealt with. There were issues with training exercises that were happening. Usually a lot of these military training exercises would result in the real thing happening, which is kind of what happened with 9/11. I talked to a solder who was involved in that. His position was mainly radar. Our radar people were told to shut down prior to the planes hitting.
Dr. Fetzer: They were told to shut down --
Leon Smith: Yes.
Dr. Fetzer: -- So there would not be any data to contradict the official report.
Smith: Right.
Dr. Fetzer: Wasn't he rather dismayed by that?
Smith: Yes, very dismayed. He was very upset by it. And it was not normal that those types of orders could come down.
Dr. Fetzer: I imagine this came from the Secretary of Defense.
Smith: If I remember correctly, it came from the Vice President.
Dr. Fetzer: Oh, really. Fascinating. Technically he is not even in the chain of command, but I think Bush made special arrangements to insert him.
Smith: Well, it is very possible, very possible. A lot of turmoil going on in those days, and it still continues today to a large extent. There is a lot of military activity that is completely unnecessary. Of course I think a lot of it goes to being able to pay big companies for their weaponry, and keep people scared to a large degree. I think there is a depopulation element that is going on. Of course we have the radiation elements that are going on from Fukushima and other places.
Dr. Fetzer: Fukushima looks catastrophic to me.
Smith: Oh, to me too. Absolutely. Last I heard was that there were some samples taken from the coast of California that indicate that particulates from that are getting to our soil here. Of course there have been some tests done over the years, some of that stuff carried in the air. One thing that I did, I interviewed a man named Chris Busby who is a radiation scientist in London. Apparently whenever the Battle of Baghdad took place the depleted uranium remnants that were in the air traveled all the way to London. There was a huge spike in radiation. Busby had to get something like a FOIA [Freedom of Information Act] to get the data, which took a while, but it spiked very severely and coincided with the Battle of Baghdad where we used nukes.
Dr. Fetzer: He has also done research on Fallujah and discovered that the extraordinary problems with birth defects there, where some one third of the Iraqi pregnancies are still born or miscarriages. Of those born live, some three quarters suffer from severe genetic abnormalities [that] were not caused by depleted uranium which was his initial hypothesis, but turned out to have been caused by enriched uranium from a new type of weapon that was being used there. So his Fallujah research has been very significant as well.


Photo of Leuren Moret used in "U.S. Deaths Increasing Due To Japanese Radiation" by W. Leon Smith, Lone Star Iconoclast, 6 Nov 2011, originally from one of several interviews in the 2005 documentary Beyond Treason (YouTube) (1:28:53) about the mass poisonings of U.S. military personnel and innocent civilians with depleted uranium and other highly toxic substances.


Smith: Yes, well I have been in contact with a lot of people involved in radiation like Leuren Moret. She works out of California, I think. Of course my thinking about the use of depleted uranium goes back to the early 1970's. They were at Ft. Hood, Texas. They were doing experiments way back then, like in '72, '73, getting prepared to be able to use these to cause catastrophic events later. Even though the Vietnam War was coming to an end and so forth, they were getting ready for the next big one, way back then.
Dr. Fetzer: I have interviewed Christopher Busby on this show too as well as Leuren Moret, of course, several times. So I think that they are very, very competent people.
Smith: Oh, I think so, She has traveled all around the world, I know that. I think she is very much on top of what is happening, and is extremely credible.
Dr. Fetzer: So tell us more about your evolving relationship with Captain May and Ghost Troop.
Smith: Well that really is the main thing. He would send us articles on a frequent basis. We talked by phone quite often and we would review the articles. He was an excellent writer. He got to the point. I like people that get to the point quick. He was good at that and his background was astonishing with what he knew through his intelligence work in the military, and through just his education, period. I considered him a genius. But the thing that really impressed me the most about him was his courage. He did not mind stepping up into the face of anybody to let them know what happened.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
Smith: A lot of people would not do that. And that could have been an attribute [contributing towards his] having his Lou Gehrig's disease. It could be he was targeted. Very possible.
Dr Fetzer: Oh, you mean targeted for -- being taken out by some method that would appear to be natural causes.
Smith: Yes, right. Exactly.
Dr. Fetzer: And that is what you believe has happened here?
Smith: Yes, I do. I really do think that happened. They wanted to silence him. But he was very remarkable. He was really fun to talk to. I was just really always intrigued at his insights, and also about his ability to read between the lines. You know you have all these news reports on TV and in the newspapers and magazines. He could go and read the articles or watch the reports and tell you what was going on behind the scenes. You know, what this means -- what this means -- what this means -- utilizing some of his military intelligence capabilities to translate the reality of what was being said and what was being hidden. I think that was a major attribute.
Dr. Fetzer: How many articles altogether would you say you published of Captain May?
Smith: Oh, it would just be a wild guess. I would say probably 30 or 40, maybe.
Dr. Fetzer: 30 or 40. Three or four dozen.
Smith: Yes.
Dr. Fetzer: Do any of them strike you as especially significant? Ones that you could never forget?
Smith: Well actually the whole column was remarkable. No one would stand out exactly except perhaps the interview I did with him in person. You know, that really stands out. I photographed him and also we met in person and I recorded the interview and transcribed it and then wrote it.
Dr. Fetzer: Are you talking about your initial encounter?
Smith: My initial first encounter with him, because we had met several times since then after he started going down hill.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes. But he traveled to you to explain the whole concept of Ghost Troop and so forth, is that the occasion you are talking about?
Smith: Yes. Yes, it is.
Dr. Fetzer: Do you recall the title of that article, or which issue it was in?
Smith: No, I really -- it was probably in 2005, towards the end of 2005, I am guessing. The article was probably "Mission of Conscience Accomplished: Battle of Baghdad Cover-Up Exposed; a May Day Interview with Captain Eric H May." I think that was the title.


Captain May describes his "Info War" mission on the Norma Sherry Show, late 2006, Part I. See also Part 2 and Part 3


YouTube caption: "Captain May of Ghost troop, Baghdad Airport with Dr. Hesham Tillawi." (39:01) Among many topics covered, Captain May exposes the Battle of Baghdad cover-up, explains the Zionist role behind American Middle Eastern policy, and describes how the American people have been heavily propagandized by controlled media.


Dr. Fetzer: Wonderful, wonderful. So he was, among other points, exposing that United States was violating international law by the use of nuclear weapons in Baghdad and it was all completely grotesque and being covered up altogether as best the military could, and apart from a few whistleblowers, and you know, Captain May especially speaking out, we would not have known about it.
Smith: Right, exactly. I really think that Ghost Troop is a good name for his intelligence network. I am really glad he could bring in more military people to explain what is happening and to get their take on things, and also to provide him information that they had from their locations that would be relevant to what Ghost Troop is trying to accomplish.
Dr. Fetzer: And of course he would be joined eventually by Sergeant First Class Buswell and ultimately by Major Fox. They had a very extensive relationship, it appears to me.
Smith: Yes, I think Buswell was involved largely because he was concerned about the way the cover-up of 9/11 was happening. He was willing to stand up for his beliefs, whereas most people wouldn't in that situation. I think that was part of his entry into being involved with Ghost Troop. He can tell you better about that than I can. And Major Fox is, well, he is one of the smartest people I have ever known. He knows a whole lot about the military, he knows a lot about history, he is an excellent writer, he goes into great detail, which, that is needed at times. He is also very courageous, as is Buswell. I mean, you have people that were involved in Ghost Troop who were willing to put their lives on the line, basically.
Dr. Fetzer: Well Leon, I am very proud of you for having this long association with Captain May and having published so many of his articles. I think that is tremendously important, and that the Lone Star Iconoclast is to be commended. I would reiterate then your web site is
Smith: Correct. Yes.
Dr. Fetzer: Well Leon, I really appreciate your taking the time to speak with me about Captain May. I will also be interviewing Sergeant Buswell and Major Fox to round out our conception of Captain May. But it seems to me he was quite an extraordinary individual, and that he persevered to the very end, although he knew full well that he was dying of a degenerative disease which as you suggest may or may not have had natural origins.
Smith: Correct. What is so amazing about his last years of doing this is that he couldn't use his hands. He had to speak commands into the computer to get his words down. He gave his all, big time, beyond what most people would do.
Dr. Fetzer: Far beyond, yes, absolutely an extraordinary individual. Leon, listen, I want to thank you for participating in this memorial broadcast about Captain Eric May and wish you well in your future endeavors with the Lone Star Iconoclast.
Smith: Thank you very much. It is nice talking to you too.
Dr. Fetzer: This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Real Deal thanking my special guests for this segment: Leon Smith, the publisher of the Lone Star Iconoclast, a long time associate of Captain Eric May. I encourage you especially to check out that interview that Leon published with Captain May as especially valuable for giving insights into his concerns and thinking. Stand by as we will continue with this memorial broadcast.


Major William Fox serving as the 4th Marine Division G-2 Combat Operations Center Intelligence Watch Officer during the Ahuas Taras exercise held in Honduras in April 1991


Part II

Major William Fox Interview


Dr. James Fetzer: This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal continuing with our tribute to Captain Eric May. For the second segment I am featuring Major William B. Fox who had an extensive relationship with Captain May, and who has in my opinion just a superb grasp of what he was about, and whom I have interviewed before, and I am very pleased to feature again here today. William, welcome to this show.
Major William Fox: Well, it is my pleasure.
Dr. Fetzer: Where should we begin? Perhaps you could give us an introduction to what Captain May was all about, the idea of Ghost Troop, and what you believe were some of his most important contributions.
Maj. Fox: Well, I am reminded of the anecdote about Abraham Lincoln when he was approached about Ulysses Grant being drunk all the time. Abraham Lincoln said give him another keg of whiskey, because that man Grant, he is a fighter, and we need more fighters, because, of course Lincoln was having a real problem with a lot of his generals not either being good fighters or very competent on the battlefield, and certainly Grant was competent and he hung in there. I think one of Captain May's greatest contributions was the fact that he helped mobilize and attract a lot of attention to the false flag threats, especially when doing so was not cool. Of course today you can listen to Michael Savage and Alex Jones talking about this big possible false flag threat and that, but Captain May was doing it before it was cool. In fact, when it was more dangerous than it is today. In fact, I recall a period where there was some buzz from the Department of Homeland Security while Ron Paul was making a run in the Presidential elections, implying that if you supported Ron Paul in any way, that you might be considered a terrorist. You may recall that the FBI got caught putting people like veterans and people who were Constitutionalists on a terrorist suspect list. [Please see the "MIAC" document cited in Chapter 23 of the Mission of Conscience series]. So there was definitely, when we go back further in time in the Bush Administration, some efforts to try to intimidate honest, patriotic, American activists in any way possible. So he was in there pitching. Of course in [Chapter 4 of] my Mission of Conscience series I talk about how he in fact was very concerned for his own life very early, after wanting to expose the Battle of Baghdad cover-up. He actually went underground for a while by just staying completely holed up in his house for several months because he was warned by some of his compatriots that there had been what appeared to be an assassination in Britain [of Dr. David Kelley] and elsewhere of people who were possible dissidents. So I can discuss if you like how I got involved with him.
Dr. Fetzer: Absolutely, and tell us a bit about your Mission of Conscience series as a prelude.


False Flag Scheme No. 1: If the opportunity presents itself, blow up the obsolescent BP refinery in Texas City, Texas. Then use this as a pretext to attack Iran and subsequently soak the Federal government for disaster aid funds to immediately rebuild a modern facility without the years of red tape that ordinarily plague new refinery construction plans. Likely ultra secret internal note to high level false flag malefactors: "If things do not quite fall into place to implement scheme no. 1, consider implementing schemes 2 or 3 below on an opportunistic basis." The photos above are of the BP Amoco Explosion, Texas City, Texas, on 30 March 2004, provided by Channel 2 News Houston. Please see Chapter 10: "The First Ghost Troop Mission And the Terrifying BP Refinery Explosion" in the Mission of Conscience series for more background.


False Flag Scheme No. 2: Bring down the Sears Tower in Chicago, just like the World Trade Center Towers in New York City on 9/11. (In 2009 the name was changed from the Sears Tower to the Willis Tower). Likely classified internal note to high level false flag malefactors (Attention! Paging "Dead-Eye Dick"/"Stand Down" Cheney, Larry "Pull it" Silverstein, David "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States...If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it" Rockefeller, Benjamin "It's very good" Netanyahu, George "Color Revolution Coup and Mass Murder" Soros, the Rothschild "Eyes Wide Shut" Crime Family and the closely allied British "Gangsters in Tiaras"/"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation" plutocratic monarchy): "If difficulties arise in implementing Scheme No. 2, consider opportunistically shifting to Schemes 1 or 3, depending on whichever option looks more favorable at the moment." Please see Chapter 11: "The Sears Tower Alert,Going Underground Again, and the New Caney Pipeline Explosion" in the Mission of Conscience series for more background.


False Flag Scheme No. 3: Nuke Portland, Oregon, either with a major nuclear explosion or a "dirty nuke" that utilizes conventional explosives. As noted in Chapter 24 of the Mission of Conscience series, the hypothetical radioactive fallout dispersal map for Portland, Oregon depicted above came from "Page 9 of The Day After: Action in the 24 Hours Following a Nuclear Blast in an American City,  by Ashton B. Carter, Michael M. May, and William J. Perry. They reported from a April 19, 2007 workshop hosted by The Preventive Defense Project, Harvard and Stanford Universities. This document wound up in the hands of Ghost Troop later that month." Likely "For Your Eyes Only" memo to high level conspirators: "If implementing this scheme becomes too problematic, consider opportunistically shifting towards implementing either Scheme 1 or 2 listed above. If neither of those options look favorable, then remember that patience is a virtue. We can always wait a few months or years, and then try again...and again...and again. Eventually one of our candidate false flag target areas will become sufficiently corrupted and otherwise vulnerable to justify going `live.'"


Maj. Fox: OK, well, I was listening to alternative media. At the time this was around 2007. I was trying to put together an ebook business, and really the last thing that I needed to do was to get involved as a political activist. What I needed to do was ramp up my inventory of ebooks from maybe about a dozen up to over a thousand or two thousand and get up and going. But I had heard an interview with Captain May in alternative media, and at that time I was living in the Vancouver, Washington, area; before that I had lived in Portland, Oregon, relocated there to be a stockbroker in 1994, and then relocated to Vancouver, Washington, just across the Columbia River, in 2003. I had heard through Captain May and through other dissidents in alternative media that it seemed likely that there could be a false flag threat of a 10 to 15 kiloton nuke going off in Portland to help justify an attack on Iran. As I looked at the evidence -- I was very much aware of all the evidence that 9/11 was more than likely staged by Mossad-CIA-MI6, and those who control them, and I was very much aware of other false flag events, so it seemed credible that there could be a real threat. I was not actually so much concerned about being killed by a nuclear blast or necessarily getting hit by nuclear contamination, because I was living in Vancouver, Washington which was much further away than downtown Portland, but still I was concerned that if there was a martial law [clampdown] -- well I was concerned about loss of lives in the area, that was my number one concern, and also the U.S. getting sucked into an unnecessary war with Iran. So I called up Captain May, and from the tone of his voice really sort of stuck it to me when he found out that I had been a Major in the Marine Corps and had served in public affairs and had done a stint in intelligence. He basically told me that he had come down with Lou Gehrig's disease, but he was fighting the good fight. His attitude was like, "What is your excuse, Major, if you are not going to do anything?' He said, "You can at least go down to the Oregon National Guard [Headquarters in Salem, OR] and start asking some questions, because nobody in the local media has the guts to do that." So when I went to the Oregon National Guard and started asking questions, I started hearing things about "Threat Fusion Centers" and modeling everything to centralize all control in Washington, D.C. I thought, "Wait a second!" I have learned that quite often in crisis management some of the best forms of reaction are decentralized where people who are closest to the action on the ground usually have the best ability to decide what needs to be done. This is also true in military tactics, like in maneuver warfare. For example, Erwin Rommel in his campaigns in North Africa was famous for riding near the front in his squad car so that he could observe the unfolding action. What I feared was that you had these Zionist neocons and others who have a Masters of the Universe mentality who basically wanted to control the local police in Portland and elsewhere in Oregon and also the National Guard, among other things to run a false flag attack. So that actually confirmed many of my worst fears. As it turned out, there was a first exercise called Noble Resolve, and then later followed by Operation TOPOFF which came, I think, in like October [2007]. Interestingly enough, during this exercise, that had originally a 10 kiloton nuke scenario, which in fact had been studied in a Harvard-Stanford study on the impact on Portland, to include a map of fallout dispersal in Portland, Oregon, which of course we viewed as an indicator that if they were going to plan for this thing, that maybe it could very well go live. Of course a big indicator -- one of the characteristics of a false flag attack, is typically false flag malefactors will have a military exercise take place at the time that they have a false flag event take place so that they can control the military reaction. There are other reasons as well. Often they signal in advance through various forms of planning. So anyway, interestingly enough, later on Webster Tarpley came out with the opinion that if Vladimir Putin had not traveled to Iran to effectively be a human shield during the TOPOFF exercise, there probably would have been some kind of pretext used to attack Iran because the U.S. and Israel were certainly jockeying, going out of their way to find a way to pick a war with Iran at that time. [See "Obama Is Preparing to Bomb Iran," July 21, 2010 by Webster Tarpley and also Chapter 26 of the MC series]. So that, plus the fact that actually prior to that exercise, there had been the B52 loose nukes episode, very strange --the U.S. Air Force loosing track of nukes. A number of other things suggested to me that Captain May was really on to something as well as other activists. As I reviewed evidence that it would make logical sense for British Petroleum to create a false flag nuking of its refinery in Texas City, among other things it could probably count on the U.S. Government to replace its [obsolescent] refinery, plus BP has a very bad reputation in the oil industry and they are connected to the British Royal family and the Rothschilds/City of London, who seem to be at the top of the list of chief malefactors. And of course later on BP did some very nefarious things in the Gulf of Mexico. Pretty much polluted it, dumped toxic Corexit which has poisoned millions of Americans, and they have damaged apparently the heat pump of the Gulf Stream and altered weather patterns. And it goes on and on. I could get into research described by Leuren Moret and others about how the royal family and Rothschilds have been able to buy off the Obama administration and control DOE [the Department of Energy] in regard to Fukushima and help sabotage the American reaction. I should get to that later, because that seems to be the ultimate in false flag operations. So [I wish] to make the point that ever since I completed my Mission of Conscience series, the false flag threat has not gone away. In fact, one could argue that the Fukushima meltdowns, which were likely caused by an Israeli firm introducing a Stuxnet virus, given the possibility that this is shaping up to be an extinction level event, [then] this is the ultimate, ultimate, ultimate of false flags, and it is ongoing. But anyway, getting back to getting involved with Captain May, I think after Operation TOPOFF, after reviewing the evidence, the likelihood [was] that he was right, that Texas City was a logical target -- and then also Chicago. I looked at the evidence there. Once again, very strange things going on where Silverstein Associates and other people connected with the World Trade Center Tower were also eyeballing the Chicago Sears Tower [Ed. Note: later renamed the "Willis Tower"]. It looked like the false flag conspirators were very definitely considering taking that down as a pretext to attack Iran. And also one other thing I will mention about the TOPOFF exercise. Michael Chertoff came to Portland, and of course Chertoff became famous for, among other things, letting the "Dancing Israelis" and other 9/11 suspects, some I believe were suspected of trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge in Manhattan, letting them go back to Israel. Many people believe that one reason why he became the head of the Department of Homeland Security was not to defend America against false flag attacks, but was to help stage them. So when Michael Chertoff went to Portland during TOPOFF, interestingly enough some Portland police cordoned off the area near where he was staying at the Double Tree Hotel. Some guard dogs alerted on what seemed like bomb residue in a vehicle near where he was staying. So again, that was an interesting indicator. I might add that before that exercise, I started getting very heavily involved with Captain May and Ghost Troop. I actually got on the phone and I called up all the local police [departments] and county sheriffs and I explained who I am, my web site [], what we are all about, and just laid out my concerns in a very calm and factual manner. I didn't get any negative feedback. They all seemed appreciative. So that was part of the modus operandi, which was to -- essentially when one is working in the capacity of a so-called cyber militia, that is basically a private militia, we don't have any rights or privileges beyond common citizens, the best we can do really is just assist public officials who are often compartmentalized or they may be fed false information. Basically we try to provide research and analysis to assist them in law enforcement, to include enforcing the law against criminals at the highest levels of our society. So I have given you quite an overview there.


Unfortunately this satire by artist David Dees was not far from the truth during the George W. Bush administration. Thanks to Fukushima and various other "black ops," unjustified interventions, and massive screw-ups, things have become even worse under Obama.


Dr. Fetzer: This is wonderful, Bill. I agree with every single word you have said. I think it is a marvelous introduction and framework for appreciating Captain May's work. Excellent.
Maj. Fox: Yes, but getting back to the [reference about Lincoln, Grant and the famous "I Will Send a Barrel of this Wonderful Whiskey to Every General in the Army" quote] -- even though I have somewhat different politics than other people, and we can get into whole issues about whether is the Civil War the right name, or it wasn't a Civil War, it was a War Against Southern Independence, and we can get into some real deep revisionist discussions about --
Dr. Fetzer: It was fought over whether states have the right to secede from the Union.


History Channel caption: "In 1863, after leading a Union Army to victory at Vicksburg, Grant caught President Lincoln's attention." The reference to Lincoln, Grant, and whiskey in the interview was not meant to imply that Captain May imbibed, but rather that Captain May and his associates faced a gritty, dirty, and often ambiguous "brother vs. brother" conflict often requiring a peculiar mixture of steely resolve, hard-headed pragmatism, shrewd political skills, and even a sense of humor, only this go around instead of involving the fratricidal dimension of Union and Confederate armies engaged in open combat, this "stealth civil war" has involved highly criminal and tyrannical elements of the U.S. Government, Mossad-CIA-MI6, and their various allies and "deep state" controllers waging various forms false flag and propaganda (PSYOPs) warfare against the general U.S. population on American soil. Please see Chapters 5 - 8 of the Mission of Conscience series for introductory background on the malefactors and 9/11 as a pivotal, "inside job" event in the latest phase of this ongoing tragedy.


Maj. Fox: Right. I don't want to make it seem like I am trying to necessarily glorify Lincoln, because I have some real issues with Lincoln. [See, for example, the "King Lincoln" archive at, "Shattering the Icon of Abraham Lincoln" by Sam Dickson, or "The American Lenin" by L. Neil Smith]. But I do like the anecdote where he said Grant was a fighter, give him another keg of whiskey. So--
Dr. Fetzer: Well, his intention was to preserve the integrity of the Union.
Maj. Fox: Well, that is true. But one of the problems with the outcome of that war is it destroyed States' Rights as a deterrent to unlimited Federal Government. And we have been on the march towards unlimited Federal government ever since. But anyway --
Dr. Fetzer: To which the creation of Homeland Security was actually a major contribution by consolidating some 35 independent agencies under one control, which really meant that it would be easier to manage the message, the research, the activities of all those departments from a centralized entity, which as you well know, was modeled after the East German Stasi, widely recognized as the most efficient secret service entity ever created.
Maj. Fox: Right, and so we are sort of faced now with the final phases of what one might consider a highly corrupt, imperial society which operates on principles that are diametrically opposed to many of those that existed, the so-called principles of republican virtue espoused by the so-called Founding Fathers when this country was founded. And today we look more like the worst aspects of ancient Babylon or Imperial Rome than say, the early Roman Republic or the Icelandic Republic or the early American Republic. We have some very, very serious problems. But the point I wanted to get back to with the keg of whiskey reference [which was meant to be purely figurative -- Captain May did not imbibe], is no matter what quibbles one might make with Captain May, one thing you can't take away from him is that he mobilized the efforts of a lot of people, including myself. You were involved in creating alerts as well as Sergeant First Class Buswell and Leon Smith, and many others to at least make some kind of stand. There is something to be said for that. Now I have a view of Captain May that is probably a little more complicated than the view others may have. I see him as something of an enigmatic personality. He was in many ways a conflicted individual. He had a very diverse background with different objectives, but he also seemed to reflect a growth story over time. His views changed over time. I like that, just like there is a book that is a classic on the America Right called Which Way Western Man? by William Gayley Simpson. Simpson started out as a Christian minister and one of the cofounders of the ACLU, and as he started to think more about the biological views of life, he became more of a Nietzschean [and Darwinist] in his views, so a lot of Right Wingers like that because it is a growth story. Similarly, Captain May started out as kind of a multiracial, multicultural, pro-establishment individual who did not question a lot of politically correct dogmas. As he started really doing fact-finding and research, particularly with the advent of the Internet, he began to change his views and understand how many elements of our government have really gone rogue. And furthermore, like he said, [9/11] it is like an IQ test. If you are smart enough to figure out that 9/11 was an inside job, then following that deductively, the people who staged it obviously haven't been caught. And then the implication is you have to have controlled media [run by allies of the false flag malefactors], because these people haven't been exposed. The controlled media says that we are going to have more false flag operations, and [if] the people who staged 9/11 haven't been caught, then chances are we are going to have more false flag operations. Therefore, we should do something to avoid them, because the next ones could get worse and worse and worse --which in fact they have.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, these announcements are like priming the pump, inducing a psychological expectation, so when they occur, they are taken for granted as something we ought to have expected, and therefore not scrutinize overly much. It is rather like the way in which the Republicans have now taken control of polls before elections. We had one here in Wisconsin, where just a week before the election the Marquette School of Law released a poll showing a sudden surge in favor of Governor Scott Walker over his opponent Mary Burke, where in fact they had been neck and neck, 45, 46, 77, 77, where if there had been any surge, it would have been in favor of Mary Burke, because she had been performing much, much, better. Scott Walker had an unending series of negative publicity. His policies have been atrocious, and Mary had the support of Michele Obama, Bill Clinton, and even Barrack Obama, plus the major newspaper in the state, the Wisconsin State Journal. It gave her a wonderful endorsement immediately before, and yet nevertheless it turned out that Walker, according to the tabulated vote, would prevail by '53 to '47, which is simply absurd. If you reverse the numbers it might be correct. But because of the prior poll, most residents of Wisconsin have taken it for granted it was legit, whereas personally Bill, I and others more expert than I are very much of the opinion that it was stolen by the use of electronic voting machines which have been preferred in elections in the United States since the year 2000. I am going to continue to pursue it, but the point I am making is there is a parallel here, where these announcements are forthcoming for expected false flag attacks, and the predictions of using polls of who is going to win an election, even when in the case of the election there ought to be such, and even when in the case of the false flags they are really just laying a foundation for committing another.


Sample slides from the hypothetical Operation Blackjack scenario discussed in Chapter 37 of the Mission of Conscience series. In addition to waging overt false flag acts of terror to manipulate fellow citizens in their own countries, corrupt power elites frequently engage in more subtle forms of psychological manipulation such as "predictive programming" designed to desensitize their populations regarding the use of intrigue and psychological operations against fellow citizens.



Maj. Fox: Right, well you are raising some important issues. One issue is the extent to which we live in a virtual reality society where we have controlled media that sort of invent the news and spin doctor reality in a very shameless and brazen way. You only have to look at the cover-up of the JFK assassination, a topic you are extremely familiar with, or the cover up of 9/11, or, the ongoing cover up of Fukushima. I mean, you know, around the country, for example, getting back to Leuren Moret, who I have had the pleasure to work with, she and other activists have pointed out that whereas background radiation rates doubled with bomb testing in the '50's and early 60's, they have more than doubled --in fact they have tripled or quadrupled again-- in various parts of the country since the advent of the Fukushima meltdown on March 11, 2011. We are not hearing anything about it in the [so-called "mainstream"] media. Leuren Moret talks about how it used to be in the Daily Cal, at [UC] Berkeley, the student paper, you would get a sudden death of a student maybe once every two or three years. Now you are getting one a week, and probably due to uptake of cesium and other radionuclides, yet that is not getting national news. We are seeing massive die-offs of marine life along the West Coast. We are still getting hot rains. On my web site, I have EPA RadNet charts that show HAZMAT levels of rain in cities across the country. That is not getting in the news. Dr. Chris Busby, the physicist you have interviewed, and I helped organize an interview with him, pointed out that Fukushima is like a nuclear war without the cities being on fire. So, OK, I guess we can return to Fukushima later as sort of the ultimate in false flag terror events and dangers, but I would like to get back to an earlier point that is part of the controversy of Ghost Troop. One thing I would like to leave the listeners with is there are a lot controversies about Ghost Troop and its modus operandi. There are various controversial, enigmatic aspects to Captain May. One criticism someone might have with Captain May is if he were putting out all these forecasts for certain Kabbalistic numerological dates, is he crying "Wolf!" And he would answer, "How can you be crying Wolf when you know there is a wolf outside the door?" And then another person can argue, "Yes, but if you do it too much it will desensitize people." It is possible that now when we are hearing certain people in alternative media talk about false flag events, is there something more sinister going on? In other words, Americans are being conditioned to just accept the idea that there is a high level of corruption in the government, and they do nasty, tricky things, and "Oh well, you can't fight City Hall." And maybe fact that they are doing it and they seem to be getting away with it, they are the smart bunch. So we are almost beginning to get a fatalistic sense, almost like Stockholm Syndrome, like, you know, they are the big tough ones, there is nothing we can do about it, so, "Hey, I accept it." Are they trying to grind us down, using the [technique of] slowly upping the heat with the boiling frogs. That is an important issue.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, yes, yes. And we will return to it, because I am going to follow this segment with one with Sergeant First Class Donny Buswell, who attended the funeral of Captain May, and then I will come back to you, Bill, for a further discussion. But I would just add, that what could be a greater act of conscience than if you believe that another false flag attack may be about to occur, publish information about it and your analysis. I am inclined to believe that some of Captain May's publications actually thwarted false flag attacks such as down in Texas City, where the BP petroleum plant, which no doubt was outmoded, was gladly going to be sacrificed for the sake of propaganda to be blamed I suppose on Iran.
Maj. Fox: Right
Dr. Fetzer: So that that did not happen may very well have been because Captain May drew attention to it.


Portland, Oregon getting nuked as part of the "Operation Blackjack" series featured by The London Telegraph, Jan 2009, and described in Chapter 37 of the Mission of Conscience series.


Maj. Fox: Well yes, and I think that the threat of an attack on Portland was very credible based on other circumstantial evidence. For example, there was a series run in English papers that actually showed a mock-up of, showed pictures of a simulation of a nuke going off in Portland, and other indicators like that were pretty spooky.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, yes, and the fact that Michael Chertoff would be there at the time, what would be described as a fortuitous coincidence actually was an ominous sign.
Maj. Fox: Right.
Dr. Fetzer: Bill, we are going to take a break. This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal, as part of this memorial tribute to Captain Eric May. I am featuring Leon Smith, the publisher of the Lone Star Iconoclast, Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell, a close associate, and Major William Fox, to whom we shall return after the next segment with SFC Buswell. Jim Fetzer, stand by, we will be right back.


SFC Buswell receiving a Purple Heart Medal.


Part III

Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell Interview


Dr. James Fetzer: This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal, continuing our memorial to Captain Eric May. I have the pleasure of conversing this segment with Sergeant First Class Donny Buswell, U.S. Army, who became a very close associate to Captain May, and who is very active with Ghost Troop. Donny it is a real pleasure to have you here.
Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell: Thanks, Dr. Fetzer.
Dr. Fetzer: Tell me, how did you first come into contact with Captain May?
SFC Buswell
: Sitting in the S2 office of 3rd Signal Brigade back in November, I believe, '05. I was looking at and I saw a segment or a piece on this Army Captain down in Houston who thwarted a nuclear attack on American soil. So I was like complete paying attention to this guy, whoever this guy was. I don't know if he was a lunatic or, you know, just some red herring story that Alex Jones might have put out, but it was an interesting story. That was my first exposure to Captain May, and at the end of the story, or the written piece was Captain May's email address. So I immediately sent him an email and said "Hey, are you for real?" Is this your real name and is this really you according to this article? Within, I don't know, a few hours he responded to me directly in email, "Yes, this is me. I am real," and we started at that point.
Dr. Fetzer: This was the Texas City, BP petroleum refinery case?
SFC Buswell: I think it might have been. I don't know. I think so.
Dr. Fetzer: Do you remember the year?
SFC Buswell: It was '05. 2005.
Dr. Fetzer: I believe that was. So how did the two of you begin working so closely then, because obviously you had a very, very tight relationship.
SFC Buswell: We did. I think he was as interested in me as I in him, because he was asking me who I was, what I was doing, and of course my interest in him, because I was a military intelligence person, actually an intelligence analyst, and of course it would peak my interest if I was in his shoes. Who is this active duty intel guy trying to keep tabs on me and trying to find out what is going on?
Dr. Fetzer: Right. He had to make sure you weren't simply an infiltrator.
SFC Buswell: Oh sure, yes. He asked me a tremendous amount of questions, and I was very honest with him. I said, "Look, my whole thing, Captain May, is 9/11. My whole pivot of political leanings, I mean everything I am doing, and doing it at the time and still doing, pivots on 9/11. It changed everything for everybody." He agreed with that, and we discussed many of these terms called "false flags," which at the time I had no idea what a false flag was. We discussed the German Reichstag burning in the early '30's, and that was false flag there, he kind of put the pieces together for me. Of course I ran with it too and put some pieces together and we developed a good friendship. I realized that this is a guy that I need to have in my S2 shop, and he needs to be the brigade, battalion, or battalion, brigade, and then division G2 and J2. I mean, this guy is so good, and I was telling him, like Captain May, you need to be my boss. You need to be the leader in the Army because we are in dire need of good leaders.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, especially in the area of intelligence.
SFC Buswell
: Oh yes, yes. Terribly deficient. So he was the Captain, Intel guy, he was my commander who I never had when I was in the military, but I wish I had.


SFC Buswell driving a HUMVEE in Iraq. His initial experiences with Captain May and Ghost Troop and his confrontation with what appear to be certain morally and intellectually-challenged, political correctness-brainwashed, military intelligence establishment reactionaries are all documented in Chapter 20: "SFC Buswell, the Exxon-Mobil Explosion, COINTELPRO, and Military “Freedom of Speech” in the Info War" of the Mission of Conscience series.


Dr. Fetzer: I think that is sensational, Donny. How early on had you put it together that there was something wrong with 9/11?
SFC Buswell: Hah! The day it happened!
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
SFC Buswell: Let me give you a bit of historical perspective on this.
Dr. Fetzer: Please.
SFC Buswell: When that happened, I was stationed in Seoul, Korea.
Dr. Fetzer: All right.
SFC Buswell: Now I was in Itaewon 2-Dong, which is on the other side of the infamous Red Light District. On the top of the hill, you go on the other side, Itaewon 2-Dong is where all the embassies are in Seoul. All the foreign embassies. So I could throw a rock at the Pakistani embassy from my apartment.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
SFC Buswell: So, I would walk to work every day, from Itaewon 2-Dong down to the main garrison in downtown Seoul. And I walked out from work, 5:30 or 6:00 Korea time, in the afternoon through the side gate and noticed -- and I had been doing this for weeks -- I noticed that at that time all the barricades were pushed in the corner of the parking lot, which they were not there in the morning. So--
Dr. Fetzer: Did you think the parking lot had been blocked off, in other words?
SFC Buswell: No, no. The barricades were set in the corner of the parking lot to be utilized in a future event.
Dr. Fetzer: Ah, ha!
SFC Buswell: So, I mean I took the same terrain every day and became very familiar with my surroundings, knew all the gates, knew all the guards, blah, blah, blah, in and out of just the place. So I was leaving the garrison base, left, noticed all the barricades in the corner of the parking lot. Nothing was locked down. Went home, cooked, sat down, watched TV, and it was CNBC in Korea, the American feed, and I was watching -- look, I did not know what I was watching. I saw the first tower was hit.
Dr. Fetzer: You saw it was smoking.
SFC Buswell: I did not know what I was looking at. I thought it was a Hollywood movie or something, but the big fat guy on CNBC, he like "We don't know what is going on, we think it was a plane accident," and it is like "Oh my God, this is just starting to register to me." And then we all saw the second plane come in from the --
Dr. Fetzer: Did you actually see the plane or just see --
SFC Buswell: It looked like a plane, I mean, coming in and blasting into that tower. I know there are some theories about planes but whatever, but it looked like a plane, so, I mean, that is what everybody saw. So it was like "Oh my God!" I immediately called up to work and said "Hey, what do we do?" "Well, we don't know what to do, just come in in the morning." So I went in in the morning, cars were backed up, all the way up the hill. You could not even get on base. You had to show your ID card and all the cars were backed up, it was a nightmare. So the same barricades that were there were being utilized for Condition Delta.
Dr. Fetzer: All of a sudden they were needed and they had been at the ready.
SFC Buswell: Yes, I could not believe it. I was walking in and I thought, "I am Col. Fletcher Prouty." I think that's his name, the guy Mr. X from JFK.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
SFC Buswell: Like, I can't believe this. It is really happening to me! So --
Dr. Fetzer: Your observation about seeing the plane is very interesting because the question is whether it was merely the image of a plane or was it a real plane. Some of us are inclined to believe it was a hologram because if it had been a real plane it would have crumpled up against the side of building, fallen apart, bodies, seats, and luggage would have gone to the ground, instead it just passed effortlessly into the building with no diminution in its velocity at all.


In the sequence above posted by Dr. James Fetzer at Veterans Today, we see an aluminum Boeing 767 slice into the South Tower like a hot knife through butter.

This sequence, also posted by Dr. Fetzer shows a plane entering from one side of the South World Trade Center tower and exploding out the other side. We also see the South World Trade center exploding outward as it starts to come down.

All of the above contrasts sharply to descriptions of other plane crashes into sky scrapers where the planes typically crackup and crumble and do most of their damage near the points of impact rather than completely penetrate buildings. Were the 9/11 videos doctored in advance of the crashes? Did 9/11 false flag malefactors use holograms or other technologies that create optical illusions? Did they enhance the aircraft-related explosions and fires in the buildings with pre-planted explosives and fuel caches? Why is it that the World Trade Center Towers, which were designed to withstand two simultaneous 747 crashes each, came down with relatively little delay, whereas virtually all other skyscrapers hit by plane crashes and/or set on fire have remained standing? To help make comparisons, one can start with the Wikipedia article about the B-25 Empire State Building crash of 1945 and the listing in this article of other historic crashes, as provided below:


SFC Buswell: Right, that is why I left the ambiguity in my voice as to whether or not it was the plane. But at the time I was convinced, yes, that is a plane. Everybody saw it.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, I know. That is significant. That is significant all by itself, you see, because if it had been done by CGI or video compositing there would have been nothing there to see at that point in time.
SFC Buswell: Well I have seen some video footage recently that shows the second plane disappearing behind the building and then reappearing.
Dr. Fetzer: No, that is actually a perspectival phenomenon. Actually the plane was in front of the building or the building was further forward. So I think that is actually a misleading impression, but do tell me more about your experiences. I am fascinated.
SFC Busw
ell: Well, I went into work, and I mean, career, if anyone knows, I was in Korea for a year --
Dr. Fetzer: I must qualify what I just said, because you were viewing what was broadcast.
SFC Buswell: Correct.
Dr. Fetzer: If they had live footage and then had introduced the plane, then before they broadcast, then you could have seen the plane, and it not have been necessarily a hologram. So I correct that.
SFC Buswell: Well, you know, September 11, 2001, it appeared to be a plane.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, continue.
SFC Buswell: From my perspective then.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
SFC Buswell: So when I went to work the next day, you know, it was like we are sitting around. I have worked in the information operations G2, 8th Army, so it was a collection of guys from Ft. Bragg, all Green Berets. You know we all had our own computers, we are just sitting around, BS'ing on the day after 911 because we did not know what to do. So our job there as a collection --when you go to Korea, it is a collection of guys from all over the world, go there for one year, and you just, you are there for a year deployed in Korea. So it was a collection of people, it was interesting, interesting guys I was working with. We are sitting there and the room was all Green Berets, all highly qualified, highly skilled, very intelligent soldiers, NCO's, and I was amongst them. I was not a Green Beret, but I had great respect for those guys, became pretty good friends with a few of them.
Dr. Fetzer: So what was the consensus emerging already? People think this was phony already?
SFC Buswell: Well of course the die was immediately cast and it was the Muslims that did it, and of course you know the initial reaction was to go get them. I did not really share that because I knew that something was fishy about it because I was EOD [Explosive Ordnance Disposal] at first. I did EOD when I first came into the military. I always questioned the Oklahoma City building, looked like a guillotine sliced the building in half.
Dr. Fetzer: Right.


William Jasper's New American article "Proof of Bombs and Cover-Up" explains the implausibility of the official government story that Timothy McVeigh's Ryder Truck filled with ANFO explosives sheared off the face of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. It cites the report by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin (USAF, Retired). According to this explosives expert. "Using the official estimate of 4,800 pounds of ANFO would yield a maximum pressure of explosion of about one-half million pounds per square inch at detonation. But by the time the blast wave traveled through the air to the nearest of the building’s columns, it would have dropped off to about 375 pounds of pressure per square inch, and by the time it reached the nearest column in the second row of columns it would have been down to 27 to 38 psi. The compressive yield strength of concrete is around 3,500 pounds per square inch, far above anything exerted by the truck bomb blast on the building’s structure."
The video Cover-Up In Oklahoma adds important additional points:

* The damage sustained by the Murrah Federal building could not have been produced by a bomb on the street without additional charges placed on or near internal structural columns.

* The initial news coverage, supported by statements from state, federal and local government officials, described the removal of multiple unexploded bombs from inside in the Murrah Federal building.

* Blast debris was blown out and away from the Murrah Federal building not into it, as would occur with a truck bomb on the street.

* The truck-bomb 'crater', described in the national media, appears to have been an outright hoax.

* Murrah bombing survivors experienced multiple blasts and describe events consistent with the placement of explosives both on the street and inside the Murrah Federal Building.


SFC Buswell: Looked like shaped charges, head cord, that is how you bring it down looking like. And then the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia was the same way. It looked the same thing as the Khobar Towers and it is Oklahoma City. The building looked identical. So, I don't claim to be a qualified EOD guy now, but I was doing it, and I had exposure to it, and I kind of knew some of the similar characteristics of certain bombs and certain explosions.
Dr. Fetzer: You mean Explosive Ordnance Demolition, EOD.
SFC Buswell: Correct. Disposal, right.
Dr. Fetzer: Disposal.
SFC Buswell: Correct.
Dr. Fetzer: Continue, continue, because I was struck that day when I watched the buildings come down. I mean they were blowing apart in every direction. It didn't look right to me at all.
SFC Busell
: No.
Dr. Fetzer
: And of course the government was claiming it was a collapse, well collapses don't involve blowing apart in every direction.
SFC Buswell
: No, I watched those things fall and they were deliberately razed. I am thinking, OK, we need to call CDI [Controlled Demolition Incorporated] and talk to those guys, find out who they fired recently, who recently died --
Dr. Fetzer: [Laughter] I like it.
SFC Buswell: Who their crews are, you know, because, I mean that is what I would look at. Who are the ones more qualified in the world to do that? I am not saying --
Dr. Fetzer: So was Captain May very much disposed to look at 9/11 the way you did?
SFC Buswell: Oh yes, yes. He and I were on the same track but we did not know it at the time. We did not discover each other until late '05 or early '06, the relationship really grew.
Dr. Fetzer: Right, right, years later, sure.
SFC Buswell: We bounced these ideas off each other, and we both concurred with each other. He established that I was credible, and I established that he was credible, because we both had a single focus to prevent these things from happening again through awareness, public information, any how you could do it, any way we could do it. I was still on the inside of the military so I was like, OK, let me tell all my people this, and I did. I told all my bosses, I told everybody, I said, "Look, I am an Intel guy, we want to go to war with Iraq." I said, "That is a mistake." I mean, I have to give you my commanding officer my two cents worth because you need to know that.
Dr. Fetzer: Well, it was your professional responsibility as an intelligence officer.
SFC Buswell: That's right. As an intelligence NCO I follow the orders, and the orders came down, "Hey, you are going to Iraq." I am like "Fuck!" OK, I will go and do what I am told to do, but you know what, there is something fishy behind this.
Dr. Fetzer: You were sent to Iraq?
SFC Buswell: Hell yes. Oh yes.
Dr. Fetzer: Oh God, Donny, it was a mess!
SFC Busw
ell: Well, it was a mess for a lot of people. We got there with III Corps out of Fort Hood, Third Signal Brigade. I was in the Third Signal Brigade at that time in the S-2 Intelligence shop for the Brigade. We deployed, set up camp, set up our Internet, infrastructure, communications, and I did my Intel support structure. Not [just] myself and the Captain, not Captain May, but [also] the guy I was working for and with, the assigned S2 officer, so, I had two of them over there.
Dr. Fetzer: What were you absorbing. What were you learning while you were there? Confirmation it had been a scam?
SFC Buswell: Well --
Dr. Fetzer: You did not find any weapons of mass destruction, did you, Donny?
SFC Buswell: No, no, I was not involved in that at all.
Dr. Fetzer: I know, but what I mean is generally, you know.
SFC Buswell: Well, I mean it was kind of a running joke, in the mess hall, dining facility, at breakfast time. Breakfast is when you would rub shoulders and discuss things with other people, other soldiers, because that was the time when everybody was there getting ready to go out, you know, four sheets to the wind, never know where they are all going to. So, you know, it is kind of joke about these weapons of mass destruction, so --
Dr. Fetzer: [Long pause]. Are you there?
SFC Buswell: Yes, I am here, I just had to take a drink.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, yes.
SFC Buswell: So you know I did a year in Iraq, OIF II [Operation Iraqi Freedom II]. The irony is I used to run a lot. I mean it is wonderfully relaxing and fantastic. I enjoyed it a great deal. I would run around the camp at lot and I was wondering why this little island compound in the middle of the lake there was so heavily fortified. It turned out that is where they were keeping Saddam Hussein. So he was just a few hundred meters from me, every day. It is interesting. No one knew it. I mean the general population did not know that Saddam Hussein was right there in Camp Victory.
Dr. Fetzer: It is a long story, but that was actually one of his doubles.
SFC Buswell: Oh, in the camp?
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, yes, yes. It wasn't Saddam. He was killed about three weeks into the war by a B1 bomber pilot by the name of Chris Wachter, whose mother contacted me. We did a huge amount of research and several radio shows on this very program and I published several articles about it. [Ed. Note: See Chapter 12 of the Mission of Conscience series for more details]. Donny, tell me, when did you get out of Iraq? How did you get home, and when did you resume your relationship with Captain May?


The “Saddam” put before the show trial.  Note lower teeth.


Photo evidence of the Saddam Hussein "double" who impersonated the Iraqi leader killed after he was killed during the Battle of Baghdad, from Chapter 12 of the Mission of Conscience series.



SFC Buswell: Well, OK, timelines here in Iraq, I had no idea who Captain May was.
Dr. Fetzer: Right.
SFC Buswell: That was in 2003 and early '04, so we returned in, when was it, I think it was early '05, January of '05, we came back, redeployed to Ft Hood. We just went on, doing Army stuff throughout '05. Then it came up to late '05 is when I came across Captain May as I said earlier.
Dr. Fetzer: So you were collaborating with him from '05 until his death.
SFC Buswell
: Well yes, late '05, early '06. Early '06 I received orders to go to Fort Sam Houston, in San Antonio. I did a PCS move to San Antonio, to US Army North, a brand new stood up unit that came out of 5th Army. So the echelon above Corps, unit, they were staffing with these rapidly deployable units, each one led by a two star reserve or National Guard general. I was assigned to the G2 section of U.S. Army North as one of the analysts. My duties initially were doing what I could to improve the overall shop functions, because they were just standing up, bringing in people from all over the world, creating the unit. So I had a lot of experience with Microsoft Access. I saw a dire need for that unit to have security clearances fixed and corrected and this and that, so I built the database, I put in 800 soldiers, found out who needs to have clearances updated, this and that, so I evolved this really good system. I really enjoyed it to get everybody their security clearances like they needed to have. So no one else could really wrap their mind around that, but I did. That is my specialty. I really enjoyed it. Then they moved me into the SCIF [Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility] where I wanted to be. They said, "OK, you are going to be looking for Middle Eastern things," and I am like, "OK, look, first of all chief, let me tell you this. I don't believe in the official story of 9/11." And he looked at me, and he is a CW3 [Chief Warrant Officer 3] and an Intel guy, his eye at the floor and says "What are you talking about?" I said, "Chief, 9/11 was an inside job, plain and simple. Those buildings were razed, they were blown to bits, and who could have done it but our own guys."
Dr. Fetzer: Right.
SFC Buswell: He couldn't believe it. He was like, "I can't believe you are telling me this." I said, "Well, you had better believe it, and I tell you right now, I do not want to be put on some kind of detail looking for the bogey man in San Antonio in all the mosques, [asking] `Who are the Arabs?'"
Dr. Fetzer: I love that ! I love it, Donny, I love it! [Laughter].
SFC Buswell: I said, "This is bull shit!" I said, "Chief" -- and he did not know how to react. He goes: "Well, I will just look at it like this: you like beer and I like wine." I said, "OK, if you want to look at it like that, know this, that if you put me in to analyze Arab influence in San Antonio (blah, blah, blah!) I am going to tell you right up front, it is probably not them, it is probably our `friend' in the Middle East, Israel, I tell you."
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
SFC Buswell: And he goes: "Oh! Oh! You can't say that!" and I said, "Why not? I am an Intel guy. I follow where the leads go, and everything seems to go back to that direction." So he goes, "Oh, I can't hear all this (blah, blah, blah,blah!)" At the same time I am working on the inside of U.S. Army North but I still have a collaboration with Captain Eric May, so I go to the JAG [Judge Advocate General] guy. We had a legal officer assigned to G-2. I took him outside and I said, "Hey, you know, his name was Kevin Kapitan, and I will tell his name to the world, Kevin Kapitan. I said, "Hey, I have got to tell you something. I am involved with this thing called Ghost Troop." "What is that?" "It is an online reconnaissance group led by a former Army Captain, CPT Eric May, that we are looking to prevent another 9/11. We are completely unaffiliated with anybody. We are just trying to pool open source, resource intelligence, so this guy Captain May can analyze and write articles and this and that. Is this going to be a problem with me doing that while I am read on Top Secret with SCI [Sensitive Compartmented Information] access. [He responded:] "(Blah, blah, blah!) "Well Sergeant Buswell, I mean, I guess, yes, that will be fine." So these guys had no idea where I was coming from, and they still didn't. And then when I got into a little snafu with replying to an email, because some bozo at Ft. Sam Houston sent about 2,500 recipients an email showing an F4 on a sled filmed at about 300 frames per second, high speed film, showing it in the mid '60's, impacting a 4 foot section of concrete. You can look it up when you do the --
Dr. Fetzer: This is at Sandia [National Laboratories]. I know it backwards and forwards.
SFC Buswell: Right. So the guy, the sender of the email, said, "This is proof that the quacks that said 9/11 was anything but the official story -- here is proof that they are all quacks." And I said, "Wait a minute." So I hit "Reply All" and I said, "First of all, folks, that is a test to test a proposed dome for nuclear power stations in America. That has nothing to do with 9/11."
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
SFC Buswell: So I hit "Reply All" and that got me in trouble, and I closed the email and said "Hey, we need to have a new investigation." And that got me in a shit load of trouble with Army North.
Dr. Fetzer: Not only that, but it was a fighter aircraft that appears to be made out of synthetic material. It was tied on to a railroad trestle and fired with a rocket at 500 miles an hour into a nuclear resistant barrier.
SFC Buswell: Correct.
Dr. Fetzer: And it splattered into a million pieces, Donny, it did not penetrate the barrier.
SFC Buswell: Correct. Nothing came out the other side.
Dr. Fetzer: The planes on 9/11 which were impacting something with nearly as much resistance nevertheless effortlessly disappeared into the buildings.
SFC Buswell: Well, it is a screen door. You know, the screen door effect. You take a knife and slice a screen door apart, and the door will still remain standing, open on the porch.
Dr. Fetzer: It is more complicated than that, but that is the right idea. There is no way those planes, had they been real, would have caused the buildings to collapse.
SFC Buswell: Right. So I know we are at 25 minutes and 30 seconds [into this interview], I don't mind --
Dr. Fetzer: Keep going Donny. I am going to keep going.
SFC Buswell: OK. I don't mind keep talking. So to tie these groups together, I had already put U.S. Army North on notice that I am a 9/11 Truth guy long before I became fully involved with Captain May. They said, "Hey, we have no problem. You drink beer, and I drink wine." So I said, "OK, if you want to look at it like that, fine." So and then I go and tell them, "Look, I am involved with Ghost Troop. Is this a breach of any kind of protocol? Am I doing something wrong here? They said, "No, you are not." So I had already told them everything, and Captain May, I appraised him of everything. I said, "Captain May, look, I may have to quit your group." And I did quit his group. I did actually quit his group because I was read on to SCI access after I talked to the Army legal advisor. He advised me, "Well, maybe Kevin Kapitan --"
Dr. Fetzer: They changed your security classification?
SFC Buswell: Well, I will get to that. So I had told the Captain, I had told the Army legal representative who represented the intelligence section at Army North. I think he is still there. His name is Kevin Kapitan. I told him what I was doing, and he said, "Well, I don't think there is anything wrong with it, but it appears this way, (blah, blah, blah.) I said "OK, fine, I am being read on to SCI," so I told Captain May, "Captain May, respectfully, I will have to withdraw from Ghost Troop because I am read on to SCI, I want to avoid any appearance of doing improper things, meaning feeding you secret stuff or non-secret stuff (blah, blah, blah). I just want to avoid that. OK?" So he understood that, completely.
Dr. Fetzer: Of course, of course.
SFC Buswell: He understood that 100%, and then I replied to the email, it was early August of '06. Hit "Reply All" on the email. Some colonel at Ft. Sam saw this and said "Wait a minute, I know we have freedom of speech, but I think this guy went over the line," meaning me. So he went and told the chief of staff.
Dr. Fetzer: But here you are being open and clear with them about everything. You were being totally open.
SFC Buswell: Right, right. And Col. Luke S. Green who is still at Ft. Sam, he goes -- he went and he hit the fan. He completely lost his mind. He thought I was a traitor, blah, blah, blah.
Dr. Fetzer: Oh, come on.
SFC Buswell: You know, "Buswell, get out of here. Fuck him! He can't say that kind of stuff. He doesn't -- " -- you know, all this kind of stuff.
Dr. Fetzer: The worst part, Donny, is what you were saying was true.
SFC Buswell: Yes, exactly. And I still say it is true. So Army North put their ducks in an order and aimed their guns at me, one NCO. And I am like, OK, I have to fight these guys. I am not going to be Jessica Lynch, and let the Army decide my fate and my story.
Dr. Fetzer: Right.
SFC Buswell: So I talked to Captain May about this and he said, "You have to attack. You have to strike. You have to put them on their heels."
Dr. Fetzer: Perfect.
SFC Buswell: He said the best way to do it is to go to Leon Smith of the Lone Star Iconoclast, give him everything, blah, blah, blah. And I did. OK, I did. I brought him the email that I sent. Of course in the email that was sent to me. I brought him the 15-6, the investigation letter basically charging me with being all sorts of bad things. I said "Here it is. And it was a closed loop. He goes, "This is a great story, and I am going to publish it," because a) I was a veteran from Iraq, b) I received a Purple Heart, because I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and I got hurt from a rocket attack, and it was a great story. He was like, "Oh my God, there a lot of good stuff here. You have been in the military for almost 20 years, Purple Heart, you are an Intel guy," and he said, "9/11 is an inside job, and the Army is attacking you for saying that?" I have all the proof that shows them doing that. Boom! I am writing a story, and it blew up!
Dr. Fetzer: I love it.
SFC Buswell: They did not know what to do. And I tell you this, I saw that piece of shit Luke S. Green about two years ago in a barber shop. He ignored me. He was the Chief of Staff, and the next time I see him, like in Starbucks or something, I am going to confront him.
Dr. Fetzer: [Laughter] Good luck, Donny!
SFC Buswell: Hey, remember me? You remember me?? OK?
Dr. Fetzer: I am sure he remembers you! [Laughter]
SFC Buswell: You know?
Dr. Fetzer: Do you recall the title of the story Leon Smith ran about you?
SFC Buswell: "Under Fire, 9/11 Analyst Says Inside Job." Something like that. But --
Dr. Fetzer: Good, good, Donny. Donny, I can't tell you how much I admire you for doing that. You really -- and Captain May must have been ecstatic and very proud.
SFC Buswell: Well he did. He wrote a log of things about me, and strangely enough, I mean I will talk about this: I had a pulmonary embolism in early May of '06.
Dr. Fetzer: No shit!
SFC Buswell: The week after all this shit went down --
Dr. Fetzer: Someone was trying to take you out, Donny.
SFC Buswell: I think it was the third week in May.
Dr. Fetzer: They were trying to take you out Donny.
SFC Buswell: Well, OK, I want to talk about that with a lot of trepidation, OK? A lot of reservations.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, yes, yes..
SFC Buswell: Because you don't just go say, "Hey, man, everybody is trying to kill me!" You don't do that, OK?
Dr. Fetzer: The timing is the most important aspect of this.
SFC Buswell: Captain May said Ft. Sam Houston has the means, the method, and the personnel to carry out a hit on you to make it look like something natural happened to you.
Dr. Fetzer: Sure.
SFC Buswell: So -- and I am not telling you anything incorrect or lying about anything.
Dr. Fetzer: I don't doubt you are not exaggerating.
SFC Buswell: The medical records went missing from my system.
Dr. Fetzer: Your medicals records went missing.
SFC Buswell: They did!
Dr. Fetzer: So no one could verify that you were in good cardiovascular health and there was no reason why you should suffer this.
SFC Busw
ell: Remember why I said I ran a lot.
Dr. Fetzer: Right.
SFC Buswell: I enjoy it.
Dr. Fetzer: Right.
SFC Buswell: OK? I enjoy it. I have a good heart, physically good heart.
Dr. Fetzer: If you were dead, Donny, no one would ever have known that.
SFC Buswell: Well, one of your friends, Ziegler, Arizona said, "Look, you were hit!" They tried to take you out, but your strength, your heart -- you are now very visible. So if it happens again, everybody knows that --"
Dr. Fetzer: Yes. Good, good, good.
SFC Buswell: So I was basically -- I mean, I got very lucky, and if it was a botch, OK, if it was a botch and I survived, then I could not be touched. They had to leave me alone. They had to just let him go.
Dr. Fetzer: Grin and bear it, yes.
SFC Buswell: They had to do that. And after I put them on their heels, and let me tell you this: My case went all the way up to the Pentagon. And how do I know this? Remember breakfasts in Iraq? OK, remember that?
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.

SFC Buswell: When I had good conversations with some guys I became friendly with, my brother in law is currently the head Army lawyer of all of Alaska, right now. He is well known in the Army legal community. So this young Major over in Iraq who I was having breakfast with, knows my brother in law. And I had kind of shared with him my views on 9/11 in 2004 in Iraq. So this officer, this legal guy, remembered me. Now I am going to tie this together for you. When 5th Army, U.S. Army North, kicked my case up to the Pentagon, they go: "We don't know what to do with this guy. We have no clue what to do with Buswell. He is a 9/11 guy, is toxic. We have done everything wrong with him." OK? So this same lawyer that I had breakfast with in Iraq, was working in the Pentagon and he got my case. And he goes, "Wait a minute, I think I know this guy. This is Tyler Harder's brother in law. So he gave my brother-in-law a professional courtesy phone call saying, "We have this case on your brother-in-law, but first of all is this the guy, is your brother in law Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell who thinks 9/11 was an inside job?" He says, "Yes, that would be Donny, yeah, that is him."
Dr. Fetzer: [Laughter]
SFC Buswell: Well, here is the case. We have rendered a judgment and we are telling Army North to leave him alone, don't do anything to him. Don't court martial him on anything, because if you do, Army North, court martial Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell, what will happen is the first five minutes will be all your little routine, how he has violated the "Reply All" function in Microsoft Outlook, and then we will go right into 9/11. So you had better be prepared to summons and subpoena President Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld to Ft. Sam Houston for Buswell's Court Martial. So U.S. Army North said "Fuck that, we don't know what the hell to do with this." And how do I know this? Because this lawyer told my brother-in-law, who told my sister, who called me and said, "Hey, this is the deal."
Dr. Fetzer [Laughter]. I love it, I love it.
SFC Buswell: And then two days later Army North is playing good cop with me now. They invited me in, "Say Sergeant Buswell, we just want to let bygones be goddam bygones. What do you want to do? Where do you want to go? The world is yours, OK?" I said, "You know, well, fuck you Sergeant Major, OK? First of all, I don't appreciate how I was treated. And secondly, I don't want to work here. I don't want to work with you guys. I think you are all a den of vipers, Sergeant Major and the Colonel." You can pretty much say anything, as long as you say "Sir," in it.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, yes. [Laughter].
SFC Buswell: They aren't going to touch me. They weren't going to touch me at the time. I am too toxic. "So what do you want to do?" I said, "You know what I want to do? I am going to retire next year, but I am going to go over to the Wounded Warrior Center, and I am going to be a platoon sergeant for 40 of our wounded, fucked up soldiers over there that are languishing in the BAMC [Brooke Army Medical Center] medical hold unit." "Hey, its done. Report there Monday." So I went there Monday and I spent my last year in the military taking care of 40 soldiers that are -- I mean, I cried. This one guy, I am not going to say his name, he is still in San Antonio. He came in, ER, he was assigned my platoon, I was a platoon sergeant and went up and saw him. I cried when I saw this kid coming in. Both legs gone, one arm really badly damaged. He ought to be dead, and his father is there and his uncle is there. I am like, "Oh my God, all of this pivots on 9/11," OK?
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
SFC Buswell: Everything pivots on 9/11.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
SFC Buswell: So I spent my last year caring for these guys, crying for these guys, working for these guys, and giving a big middle finger to Army North. So it is what it is, you know?
Dr. Fetzer: I think that is fantastic.


Maj. William Fox
Capt. Eric H. May
SFC Don Buswell
Dr. James Fetzer
Lt.Col. Guy Razer


SFC Buswell, Lt.Col. Guy Razer, Dr. James Fetzer (a former Marine Captain) and other veterans lent their names and pictures to numerous Ghost Troop alerts. One example is the 18 July 2008 MID-SUMMER ALERT!
Noble Resolve and Diablo Bravo by Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer (U.S. Air Force, retired), Maj. William B. Fox, Dr. James H. Fetzer, Capt. Eric H. May and SFC Donald S. Buswell reproduced in Chapter 32: Neo-Con Bloodying of the Russian Bear and Putin vs. the New World Order.



SFC Buswell: Any ways, I will tie all this together with Captain May. So I got back into Ghost Troop after the Army North kicked me out and this and that. I retired from the military in April of '08. Captain May and I were still corresponding. He wanted me to step it up and take charge of the Texas Ghost Troop. I said, "Captain May, you know, I am comfortable with what I am doing with you and that is contributing my name to essays, writing certain things, but I don't want to be a `leader.'" I was pursuing my bachelor's degree at the time and I was just focused on that and my business. So those two things were priority, and Ghost Troop was number three. So May understood that. We became friends, and then he called me and said, "Look, I got sick. He goes, "They got me." [I said], "What are you talking about?" He said, "They got me. I don't know what they did. I think they poisoned my dog. My dog died. I got sick shortly after that."
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.


Striking before and after shots: (Above) Eric May holding his sister Melody in 1978. May became conversant in Russian, Spanish, Latin, and Greek, and in vigor and appearance seemed to resemble an ancient hero from his study of antiquities. (Below) Eric May, his sister Melody, and William Fox during Christmas 2008 at May's home in Houston. Captain May was now rendered a complete quadriplegic from Lou Gehrig's disease (or ALS). May remarked, "The disease seemed to come out of nowhere," and later added "If you play with poisonous snakes [ie. false flag conspirators], you are likely to get bit."


SFC Buswell: So he [said] "They don't know what it is, but I am going to die, Buswell. I am going to die, I am going to die, I am going to die. And when I do die, I want you to commit to me right now that you will participate in my funeral in a military capacity." He goes, " I need for you to promise me that you will do that no matter what happens over the years." I said, "OK, I will be glad to do that." We became closer friends. His wife and myself and him and his family, we talked quite a bit. He invited me down to his 50th birthday a few years ago. I mean, the May family, they are a regular American family. They have got problems and triumphs just like every other family. You know, Eric May is a smart guy, was a very smart guy, who -- I have a tremendous amount of respect for him even in death, but he got sick and he went out of communication. Bill Fox and myself were very concerned about that. We were like, wait a minute, what if somebody is taking his identity in creating stories that are apparently from Captain May. So myself and Bill Fox --
Dr. Fetzer: In order to discredit him.
SFC Buswell: Exactly. I am close to Houston, so I made many overtures to Captain May. "Hey, let me come down. Let me come down, let me come down and meet you. I want to see you. I want to verify that you are alive, doing well." And he really got pissed off at that and he publicly discredited me and Bill Fox for conspiring against him.
Dr. Fetzer: You mean, he rebuked you?
SFC Buswell: Rebuked -- right, completely. He wrote that article in Veterans Today, I think it was called "Nuclear Mutiny in Ghost Troop," ["Ghost Troop Nuclear Mutiny"] and he pretty much dropped the bomb on me and Bill --
Dr. Fetzer: That was a huge mistake by Eric, of his judgment on his part.
SFC Buswell: Yes, and his wife said it probably was his sickness.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, yes.
SFC Buswell: He was confined to bed. He had no powers. His only power is the written word. So--
Dr. Fetzer: But you followed through on your commitment with regard to his funeral.
SFC Buswell
: Correct. He basically cut us off. He wasn't receiving emails. I would call every six or eight months. Leave a voice mail, "Hi, you know I just want to say hello. Just want to let you know that I am thinking of you and hope things are well." I would call his wife. She would say, "Yes, Eric is hanging on, he is fighting, he wants to live, he is getting worse." She called me in January. She said, "Donald, it is getting bad, it is getting bad, so it will be soon." And then all summer went by and nothing happened. I said, "OK, he is still alive?" She called me early in the month. He died in late October. She called me a week before and said, "He has gotten really bad. He does not have much time left." I said, "Well, you know, keep me abreast of the details. I will honor the commitment." She goes, "Thank you, that was the reason I am calling, to make sure that you will still do what you said you would do to honor Eric." And I said, "I will." She goes, "Don't worry about the Ghost Troop thing. That is just, you know, that is in the past. He liked you as a man, you liked him as a man. You guys were friends." So I went down to the funeral, met his family again. I got my blues out, which now the dress blues is the actual Army uniform. So I had to get it modified a little bit. The pants are different. Some of the stripes on the sleeves are different. But I could basically use my same uniform. I had to get it tailored. So I brought my uniform into current specifications. Got a nice hair cut. Shaved. Went down there. I mean, I looked good. I know I really looked good. I am taking selfies with my damn Blackberry. She came over, his wife, you know, and she was like, "Thanks for coming, Don." I met his family. Eric's mother was there. And I have got to say his mother is a very striking woman. Very determined. Firm handshake. Looks you straight in the eye. She said, "Thank you for being my son's friend."
Dr. Fetzer: Wonderful.


Burial service for Captain May held at the Houston National Cemetery on Oct 21, 2014. He was eulogized in a funeral home obituary as well as in the article "Death of Eric H. May Mourned" published Oct 22, 2014 by The Lone Star Iconoclast. (Photo by SFC Donald Buswell)


SFC Donald Buswell honored his promise to Captain May by appearing in full military attire at his funeral. (Photo by SFC Donald Buswell)


SFC Buswell: And then one of his sisters said, "Yes, considering some of the people coming, how do you know Eric? From high school? The military?" I said "No, neither. It was the Ghost Troop affiliation." Then his sister goes, "Yes, well, he is the only one from Ghost Troop we will invite." So apparently, I mean, I had a bit of esteem and rapport with the family, and I still think I do. I mean, they are good folks. The May family is a good family. So I was there. I did not participate in it [as a pallbearer]. I would have if they had asked me to. But it was a very nice, simple ceremony. His casket was there. The flag. It was just really respectful. I am glad that Bill Fox has the archive records of everything of Captain May. I mean, that is a valuable resource, even today. I look back at May's articles, and I think, "Wow! That was cutting stuff, way ahead of its time. Brilliant analysis."
Dr. Fetzer: I think you and Leon Smith and Bill Fox were just splendid in the support you gave to Captain May.
SFC Buswell: Yep, and even though Captain May in the end didn't show me the kind of attention or respect that I was hoping he would, I still followed through on the commitment. I think maybe in his corner of heaven he is, you know, happy with that. At least I hope so.
Dr. Fetzer: Donny, this has been fantastic. I want to thank you for talking to me about this. I greatly appreciate it. I am going to give Bill Fox the opportunity to add a few final words, but I am tremendously indebted to you for the fine work you did with Captain May.
SFC Buswell: Thank you very much. It has been my pleasure to speak about it. If I got a little animated, it is because it is an emotional subject. I am still hoping that the day comes that those guys in the military will realize what happened on 9/11. They will wake up kind of like I did, and they will really fix it, because the only people that can fix 9/11 is the military, period.
Dr. Fetzer: Donny, thank you so much. This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal, thanking Sergeant First Class Donny Buswell for being here, and now for our final segment, I am going to return to Bill Fox. Donny, thanks so much.
SFC Buswell: You bet. Thank you Jim.



The research, analysis, and activism inspired by Captain May has undergone some permutations since Captain May became silenced by his ALS, but it has not died. As two examples, due to such factors as the enormity of the Fukushima catastrophe and financial constraints, Major Fox has focused on very serious ongoing radiological threats, whereas Dr. Fetzer has covered not only Fukushima, but also Sandy Hook, the Boston Bombing, and such mainstays as the JFK assassination and 9/11 in his continuing Real Deal interviews. Above: photo of William Fox used in the article "Fukushima Radiation Present In America," by W. Leon Smith, The Lone Star Iconoclast, Oct 14, 2012. (Nathaniel Black photography)




Part IV

Final Comments With Major William Fox


Dr. James Fetzer: This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal, losing his voice, with the opportunity to bring back Bill Fox for some final overviews about Captain May and what meant. Bill, I am asking the following question: Why did Captain Eric May matter?
Major William Fox: Well the ultimate is answer is because the false flag attack threat was very real. We had been victims of major attacks. We have talked about 9/11, and I have even talked about Fukushima, which is ongoing. It will probably continue until we have a major changes in the establishments, particularly in the United States and Britain, where we have a [desperate] power elite that has run out of bullets in many ways. They have wrecked the economy. They have offshored our industry, which was certainly the real motor of America's economic power in the 19th century. They have run debt to the ceiling. [They have also flooded the country with illegal aliens from a seemingly endless de facto open borders policy and have dispossessed and disoriented what was once the great and productive white middle class]. We are in serious danger of an economic collapse when eventually foreigners repudiate dollars and the government can no longer finance its needs by printing dollars. We are heading towards hyperinflation and many [other] calamities. Including, now of course we have rising radiation rates. We will probably see a decrease in life expectancy of [at least] 10-20 years. When Michael [Ed. Note: actually Dennis] Cimino was on your show [titled "Fukushima Is Killing the Pacific Ocean," Aug ll, 2014], he expressed the opinion that when the public catches on to the seriousness of Fukushima, all hell could break loose. And of course we see the Department of Homeland Security ramping up its purchases of ammo, and [taking] other preparatory measures involving the creation of the police state. So what it comes down to is we have a ruling elite that hijacked this country during the 20th century, I mean, I could get into a long-winded discussion about the creation of the privately-owned Federal Reserve, and how in the long run it has been bad for America, I could go on and on, in fact I cover that, particularly some of these [financial] macro issues in Book III of the Mission of Conscience series. [Please see Chapter 33 "Wall Street Coup de Etat and Banker False Flags Against America."] But suffice to say we have a power elite in America that has been driving this country into the ground, and so they are resorting now to the worst forms of manipulative tactics to stay in power. That includes not only manipulating the public through propaganda, through controlled media, but also staging false flag attacks to keep them in fear.
Dr. Fetzer: And stealing elections using electronic voting machines.


Chapter 17: "The Bombing Beat Goes On and On: The JFK Assassination Subplot, the McVeigh Subterfuge, Bali and Amman Explosions" in the Mission of Conscience series provides a compelling argument from The Judas Goats by Michael Collins Piper that Timothy McVeigh was set up by Federal Agents and Mossad-CIA-MI6 to serve as an accomplice or agent provocateur in staging the Oklahoma City bombing in order to unfairly discredit the American patriot and militia movements. The late Kent Kentroversy, a member of Ghost Troop, claimed in point No. 16 of his article "Anatomy Of a False-Flag Terror Attack --Part One," that a member of McVeigh's family told him that the execution of McVeigh was probably faked and McVeigh still lives under a new identity. According to "Webster Tarpley Speaks with Alex Jones About the Wikileaks Organization Being 'Controlled Opposition',” Dec 5, 2010, former U.S. Navy intelligence officer Daniel Ellsberg leaked the "Pentagon Papers" in 1971 as part of a Vietnam War-era inside job ploy to "`whitewash' wrongdoing by the CIA and to shift guilt to the US Army and to President Kennedy, and also to cover up many aspects of the Kennedy assassination." Tarpley also states: "Similarly, `Watergate' was used to shift popular rage to be against Nixon when it should have been against the CIA for its involvement in such activity as drug smuggling and gun running operations and their involvement in setting up the major wars at the time." Given the Department of Homeland Security's attitude towards veterans documented in Chapter 28 of the Mission of Conscience series, would it be reasonable to assume that Captain May and his Ghost Troop would draw the establishment's attention for the purposes of infiltration, hijacking, disruption, or agent provocateur operations?


Maj. Fox: And they use sophisticated full spectrum dominance [and "strategy of tension"] tactics in which they infiltrate groups on all ends of the political spectrum. Which sort of raises another question many people may have, and that is, how do we know that Captain May and Ghost Troop were not intended as part of some kind of sophisticated PSYOP [Psychological Operation]. In fact, I asked Captain May that question when I was in Houston from summer 2009 to summer 2010. I was there a whole year and I spent most of that up until about February 2010 completing Book III of the Mission of Conscience series. I spent quite a lot of time, I would go over to Captain May's house and sit at his bedside and got into some very, very good conversations with him. I always had good conversations with him. I mean, when I was there with Captain May at his bedside in his house, I had a very, very good feeling. It was beyond just a good feeling of me as a former Marine Corps officer being with a former Army officer trying to do something positive to try to help save this country. I felt on a very human level a sense of camaraderie with him. He and his wife had actually gone to the extent of putting up some funds to help me come to Houston and finish Book III. So they were certainly supportive at that time because I was short on money, and I needed the help and he provided the help for me, and I greatly appreciate that. But Captain May told me that -- I asked him if he had ever considered being like Timothy McVeigh, an intelligence operative who would run a false front group, in other words Ghost Troop, which was ostensibly to combat false flag operations, might itself be a false flag operation. I know that was a very brazen thing to ask him, but I had been with him long enough I could ask him those kinds of questions. [Laughter]. He said, very honestly, he said "Well, frankly, right up until the Battle of Baghdad, yes, I might have been a Timothy McVeigh-type." Well of course we don't know the whole story on Timothy McVeigh, all right? I mean, you know, in your assassination research and study of black ops, there is always a story behind a story behind a story -- which actually leads to another point, and that is, until we could see some kind of collapse of the U.S. Government, similar to the collapse of the Soviet Union when the KGB files were opened up, until we see the archives opened up on the CIA and FBI and see what they have to say about Captain May and Ghost Troop, we will probably never know the whole truth. And also of course we are also waiting for other whistleblowers to come forward, people who have been on the inside like Donald Buswell [in regard to military intelligence or Sibel Edmonds in regard to the FBI]. So I would say that I have to go by gut, and based on what I know so far, I think Captain May had a lot of complexities to his background. He had a diversified background. I think he was a politician. He was very good at handling people. I was really impressed when neighbors would come by, and there he is, a complete quadriplegic, and he was very good at conversing with people, just kind of taking control of the social situation and also handling people.


Eric May when he was student body president of a half black, half white high school in Texas


Which also, I might add, was amazing for someone who was a complete quadriplegic, who is obviously getting pumped with drugs. I mean, for a lot of people it would probably drive them crazy to be in a situation like that. But when I was at his bedside, he was always very sharp, mentally. There was nothing crazy about Captain May. When I was there in Houston with him, I was very impressed with his intellect. But I will make another point. I have spoken with Leuren Moret, who you have had on your show. She is very familiar with CIA mind-control operations. And I spoke with her about Captain May quite a few times, particularly when I had returned to Western Pennsylvania [after my year in Houston]. I first spoke with her a few months after the Fukushima meltdowns. I was referred to her by Major Doug Rokke who is a depleted uranium activist because I wanted to get into Fukushima as a false flag operation and understand its implications on the nuclear side, and she was a perfect person to start speaking with. In fact, in a way she kind of took over in my life a role similar to the one Captain May had filled because Captain May was no longer able to speak. So I ended up learning quite a lot from Leuren Moret who in her own way has been an excellent anti-false flag activist. She has done a lot of good work looking at the shoot-down of the Malaysian planes near north of Australia and also the more recent one over the Ukraine. She has done a lot of other good work [to include exposing likely false flag ops behind Fukushima and Chernobyl]. She said to me -- raised an important question -- how can someone like Captain May be wheeled into a VA hospital and not be placed under some kind of mind control or some kind of coercion? As a matter of fact Captain May wrote a series of articles beginning in the summer of 2011 and going into early 2012 where he complained about his treatment, he felt harsh treatment by people in VA hospitals. But also the VA has a lot of -- well, I mean, lets put it this way -- when somebody is wheeled into the VA, I mean for all intents and purposes, that is like being wheeled inside the Pentagon or the CIA Headquarters, because the VA is totally controlled by the U.S. military/the Pentagon and the CIA. Some might say cynically that the VA was created to control veterans, like nuclear test veterans. When I have been to the VA a number of times, I have almost been badgered a number of times "Do you want to see a counselor to take a PTSD test?" It is like --well, different doctors have different personalities at the VA, but I have encountered some who have had the attitude like if you are a veteran, you must have a PTSD problem. I don't have any problems, or at least I don't have any problems worth seeing a counselor [about], but I have read in alternative media, a lot of people are suspicious that if they can get veterans to go and get counseling, then they can have a VA shrink say "Hey, this guy has PTSD --Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome" and then yank away his Second Amendment right to bear arms. And that is the ultimate agenda of people who are trying to run the police state in America is to try to disarm veterans in every way possible. So a lot of people are very suspicious of the VA. Captain May increasingly found himself under the care of the VA in the last years of his life. He openly wrote about problems he had, and so that may have certainly been an influence on his behavior.
Dr. Fetzer: Well Bill, I must say, I appreciate your suggesting the idea of having this show to involve Leon Smith, the publisher and editor of the Lone Star Iconoclast, Sergeant First Class Donny Buswell, whose story is quite extraordinary, and all the contributions you have made, all the support you have provided, and all the assistance to a man whom I consider to be quite extraordinary, of superior intelligence and tremendous dedication to his country, who I think in the end gave everything he had, including his life to benefit the rest of us and see more clearly what was taking place in our own country. I just want to say how much I have appreciated your efforts to bring this about. It is with the greatest reluctance that I must bring our conversation to an end. This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal, thanking my special guests for this final segment, but whose idea it was to have this entire program, Major William Fox, for being here, and all of you for listening.






Sample web sites listing articles by Captain Eric H. May or commentaries about his work:

America First Books, The Mission of Conscience Trilogy
America First Books
, Captain Eric H. May Archive
The Lone Star Iconoclast, Columns by Captain May
Veterans Today, Staff Writer CPT Eric H. May Archive
The Price of Liberty, Archives for Captain Eric H. May (also by Maj William B. Fox)



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