Dr. James Fetzer
Dennis Cimino


The Real Deal

Dr. James Fetzer
erview with

Dennis Cimino


The End of Mankind?



August 29, 2015


Editor's Note: This is still a work-in-progress subject to review and correction by the various participants involved that may be reasonably but not totally accurate at this stage for research purposes.

The Real Deal Talk Show

Host: Dr. James Fetzer Ph.D.
Guest: Dennis Ciminio

Transcript prepared by William Fox, pubisher, America First Books




Editor's Update Note, June 2018: This show was originally listed online at Dr. Fetzer's Real Deal website ( radiofetzer.blogspot.com) as "The Real Deal Episode No. 97: Fukushima: The End of Mankind," published August 29, 2015. For some reason this show is no longer listed.
There is currently a gap in listings between "The Real Deal #91 Vince Foster/Sandy Hook,"Thursday, August 20, 2015, in the August 2015 section and "The Real Deal Ep # 99 The Boston Bombing / A JFK-body Switch Scenario," in the Sept 2015 section.
In addition, I can no longer find the YouTube video version of "The Real Deal Episode No. 97: Fukushima: The End of Mankind.". The good news is that the reader can download the MP3 file below:

MP3 download: "The Real Deal Episode No. 91: Dr. Fetzer interview with Dennis Cimino, "Fukushima: The End of Mankind?" download link HERE.


Dr. Jim Fetzer:  [introductory music; 2:00 in] This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal where I am very pleased to have as my guest a return engagement by Dennis Cimino who was the Navy's top electronics troubleshooter when he was in the service.  Who is an expert on 9/11, not only the Pentagon where he is in my opinion unparalleled but also about how the twin towers were destroyed on which he has also published.  He lives in an area that is being powerfully affected by the fallout from the Fukushima disaster and because we have had one show on Fukushima recently, others in the past, I wanted to follow up with Dennis and have the benefit of his expertise here. Dennis welcome to the show.
Dennis Cimino:  [2:50 in] I just now had everything freeze on this end, and I am not --.
Dr. Fetzer: [Silence] Dennis, are we there?
Cimino: OK, now I can see a video again moving.
Dr. Fetzer: Well Dennis,  I’ve just introduced you and welcomed you to the show. 
Cimino:  Well thank you Jim.  Once again, after many good shows this time it is my pleasure to be back.
Dr. Fetzer:  Well you are so very perceptive and put things together so well I think that your observations about Fukushima are very much worth sharing with the public. Let me begin, there is a site here, an energy news site [enenews.com] that has published a fair amount about Fukushima that those of us have been following have found highly disturbing.   Let me read, these are only some of the most recent.   July 29th [2015], for example: [Reading ENENews.com headline] “Officials: Buildings sinking next to Fukushima reactors — Experts: We know structures decaying, getting more unstable — ‘Plant deterioration investigation’ underway — Molten fuel thought to be eating away structural materials (VIDEO)”


Officials: Buildings sinking next to Fukushima reactors — Experts: We know structures decaying, getting more unstable — ‘Plant deterioration investigation’ underway — Molten fuel thought to be eating away structural materials (VIDEO)

Published: July 29th, 2015 at 9:18 pm ET

Tepco handout (pdf), summary translation by Fukushima Diary, Jul 21, 2015 (emphasis added): Tepco announced Fukushima plant area has irregularly sunk since 311… The report reads Reactor 1 turbine building sank by 730 mm [2.40 ft], Reactor 2 by 725 mm, Reactor 3 by 710 mm, Reactor 4 by 712 mm.

IAEA Headquarters (pdf), 2015: We know that the buildings will decay and become less stable… there is the dilemma of 1) gathering more information… and 2) acting earlier and maybe not having enough information to make good decisions.

IAEA Nuclear Energy Series (pdf), 2014: The impact of the salt on the corrosion of structural materials had to be assessed and measures taken accordingly to retain integrity.

Lake Barrett, Tepco adviser (pdf): Reactor building structure has likely been degraded… Explosions Weaken RB Structure… Aftershock May Cause Building Failure — Issues: … Aftershock Structural Integrity… — Safety Challenges: … Containment Degradation

US National Research Council, 2014: Substantial structural damage occurred… particularly Units 3 and 4… The explosions [were] extremely destructive. The complex structure of the lower part of the reactor buildings is well suited to cause flame accelerationIronically, having a strong structure with multiple compartments can greatly enhance the damage… this result, although not intuitive, is now well established....


Dr. Fetzer: July 28th: [Reading ENENews.com headline] “AP: Unprecedented deaths along U.S. Pacific coast — Scientists: Mass die-offs of mammals, birds, fish… “No one’s sure what happened” — Gov’t wants Unusual Mortality Event declared — Samples “being tested for radionuclides from Fukushima” (PHOTOS & AUDIO)”


AP: Unprecedented deaths along U.S. Pacific coast — Scientists: Mass die-offs of mammals, birds, fish… “No one’s sure what happened” — Gov’t wants Unusual Mortality Event declared — Samples “being tested for radionuclides from Fukushima” (PHOTOS & AUDIO)

Published: July 28th, 2015 at 10:23 am ET

AP, Jul 27, 2015 (emphasis added): Scientist says unexplained mass whale deaths off Alaska island may remain a mystery — Researchers may never solve the recent deaths of 18 endangered whales… 10 fin whales [and] eight humpback whales… scientists speculate the animals might have eaten something toxic… One test came back negative for one toxin that would be present in harmful algal blooms [Kate Wynne, a marine mammal specialist for the University of Alaska Sea Grant Program] said. “That’s my leading hypothesis,” Wynne said of an environmental toxin as a cause… “we never will find out what killed those whales, in my mind.” Other test results also are pending, however. A muscle-tissue sample is being tested for the possibility of radionuclides from the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster… The deaths are an unusual occurrence, Wynne said. She said she’s never heard of anything similar occurring among large baleen whales in the U.S. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also is looking into the deaths of a slightly larger number of whales over a larger area. NOAA is requesting the deaths to be designated nationally as an unusual mortality event… NOAA spokeswoman Julie Speegle said. Along with the dead whales, dead birds including murres and shearwaters were reported… Tests showed the shearwaters had a high parasite count and were starving, Wynne said.

KUCB, Jul 27, 2015: Dead Fish, Wildlife In AleutiansScientists have been receiving reports of dead and dying mammals, birds and small fish in the Aleutian Islands.  They think the killer might be toxic algae… “They’re a suspected cause for some of the mass deaths we’ve been seeing–the 10 fin whales that were spotted dead off of Kodiak Island; I know Adak has seen a lot of dead birds, King Cove, I believe (birds in) False Pass have been washing up. We don’t know the cause of that yet either,” [Melissa Good with University of Alaska Fairbanks] said… “No one that I know of is sure what happened.” This week, Good has been taking water samples around Unalaska and shipping them off to labs for full analysis… She’s also sampled the stomach and flesh of a Steller’s sea lion that washed up dead… Good said people in the Aleutians should be wary of eating clams or mussels… “We just don’t know if they’re going to be toxic or not,” she said.

Univ. of Alaska Fairbanks, July 2015: Pursuing Cause of Death in Gulf of Alaska Whales… Over the next six weeks more large whale mortalities were reported by mariners and pilots. Kate Wynne and Bree Witteveen began gathering NOAA Stranding Network data… a total of 10 fin whale and 8 humpback mortalities have been documented… Both whale species feed in groups on small fish and invertebrates, filtering them with their baleen… Wynne, Witteveen, and other biologists have pursued many possible human-influenced and natural causes, but as of mid-July the cause of death remains unknown… Biotoxins caused by warm water–induced harmful algal blooms are a possibility, although tissue from the sampled fin whale tested for domoic acid came back negative… Scientists have followed up on other possible causes… even radionuclides from the Fukushima reactor…. To pursue the radionuclide possibility Wynne submitted a muscle tissue sample from a dead fin whale for Cesium 137 analysis, with results pending… Wynne and Witteveen complimented the professional network of bird, fish, and mammal biologists in the Gulf of Alaska and the Bristol Bay–Bering Sea area, who have reported unusual events since the mortalities.

KUCB broadcast here


Dr. Fetzer: Also the 26th: “Attorney for US Navy Sailors: Third death from exposure to Fukushima fallout — Baby with brain cancer has died — Reporters afraid to publish stories related to case — Professor: USS Reagan sailors were first people to be hit by plume outside of plant (VIDEOS)”


Attorney for US Navy Sailors: Third death from exposure to Fukushima fallout — Baby with brain cancer has died — Reporters afraid to publish stories related to case — Professor: USS Reagan sailors were first people to be hit by plume outside of plant (VIDEOS)

Published: July 26th, 2015 at 11:18 pm ET

Attorney Charles Bonner, representing US service members exposed to Fukushima fallout, Jul 21, 2015 (at 10:45 in): We now have a 250+ young sailors with all kinds of illnesses, we’ve had three die. We had one of the sailors who came home and impregnated his wife. They gave birth to a little baby born with brain cancer and cancer down the spine, lived for two years, and just died in March of this year.

Q&A with Charles Bonner, Jul 21, 2015 (at 4:45 in): I was just interviewed by some reporter about this case, he said, “Now, I want to interview you about this case and the current status of your lawsuit — but, you all have won, so do I have anything to worry about? Do I have to look over my shoulder if I do this story, if I publish this story?” I said, “Yeah you do.” Because trillions of dollars do not go away easily. It’s amazing that people are afraid to even do a story on this because they’re afraid of these corporations.

Kyle Cleveland, sociologist at Temple University’s Japan Campus, published Apr 29, 2015 (at 2:00 in): Like everyone else we were seeing what was on the media. The media was very alarmist, and I think ironically, some of what were taken as an overreaction or a panic in the first couple of weeks of the crisis subsequently have been vindicated to be in some ways quite reasonable claims and worries as more information have been revealed, as gov’t reports have been written… Those reports have demonstrated that the situation was really quite more serious at the time than certainly what the government was saying, and certainly what TEPCO was saying at the time. My starting point for my research was looking into the government’s FOIA documents. I was very surprised to see that there is a big difference within the United States government as they were trying to determine just how bad this was. And what I realized in those documents is that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission… was recommending a 50-mile (80 km)exclusionary zone. This was an stark contrast to the Japanese government’s recommendation of 30 km. And also I was very interested to see that the the US Navy Pacific Command and particularly naval reactors, was recommending a 200-mile exclusionary zone. So that’s a rather profound gap between 30 kilometers on the one hand with the Japanese government 80 km from the NRC [and] something like over 300 km for the US Navy… But ironically aside from the staff at the Daiichi plant maybe some at the very first people who were hit by the radioactive plume were sailors who run the United States Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group… They detected the plume at about 132 miles distance from the Daiichi plant. The FOIA  documents… demonstrate that these government officials… were very concerned about the levels that they were reading. They were indicating that they were about 30 times above background levels, and that they would exceed a ‘protective action guideline’ criteria within about a 10 hour period… The reason the US Navy had recommended a 200-mile exclusionary zone was that the Yokosuka naval base is about a 163 miles from the Daiichi plant… at the same time that the Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier was detecting the nuclear plume, the George Washington aircraft carrier which was ported down near Yokosuka was also detecting a plume and the result that they were getting were really quite alarming to them.

Watch: Bonner’s presentation |Cleveland’s presentation


Dr. Fetzer:  “Local News: “Breaking… Alert… leak shuts down US nuclear plant” — Gov’t: Radiation levels ‘above normal’ — ‘Steam plume’ seen in reactor building, workers can’t find where leak is coming from due to safety concerns — Flood warnings issued for area.” 


Local News: “Breaking… Alert… leak shuts down US nuclear plant” — Gov’t: Radiation levels ‘above normal’ — ‘Steam plume’ seen in reactor building, workers can’t find where leak is coming from due to safety concerns — Flood warnings issued for area

Published: July 23rd, 2015 at 7:00 pm ET

US NRC Event Notification Report, Jul 23, 2015 (emphasis added): Callaway Plant initiated a shutdown required by Technical Specifications (TS)… TS 3.4.13 Condition A was entered due to unidentified RCS [reactor coolant system] leakage being in excess of the 1 gpm TS limit. The leak was indicated by an increase in containment radiation readings…A containment entry identified a steam plume; due to personnel safety the exact location of the leak inside the containment building could not be determined. At this time radiation levels inside [the] containment are stable and slightly above normal. There have been no releases from the plant above normal levels.

AP, Jul 23, 2015: Missouri Nuclear Plant Shut Down After ‘Non-Emergency’ Leak… Jeff Trammel, a spokesman for St. Louis-based Ameren, called it a “minor steam leak.”… Ameren officials are investigating the cause… it was unclear when the plant would restart… [NRC] inspectors are at the plant.

Missouri Times, Jul 23, 2015: Unplanned Shutdown & Elevated Radioactive Levels at Ameren Missouri’s Callaway 1 Nuclear Reactor Containment Building… Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) issued an event notice for the unplanned shutdown of the Callaway 1 nuclear reactor… The NRC notes that radiation is above normal in the containment building.

Jefferson City News Tribune, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:26p: Alert — Steam leak shuts down Callaway

Jefferson City News Tribune, Jul 23, 2015: Breaking News – Steam leak shuts down Callaway Plant… Company officials are trying to determine the cause of the problem, which they said “has been contained.”

ABC 17, Jul 23, 2015 — Callaway FLOOD WARNING: Issued at: 9:52 am CDT on July 23, 2015, expires at: 4:00 AM CDT on July 26, 2015. The Flood Warning continues for the Missouri River near Chamois until Friday afternoon. At 7:00 am Thursday the stage was 19.5 feet. Flood stage is 17.0 feet. Minor flooding is occurring.

Previous event at Callaway: Emergency declared at US nuke plant: Fire shuts down reactor — “Reports of black smoke” — Company says no radiation release “above normal operating limits”


Dr. Fetzer: That was on the 23rd, implying of course that we could have our own disaster right here in the US. Let us look at the next slide, Chance [Ed. Note: This is the first name of the show producer]. This is from the previous presentation on Fukushima as a model showing how the radiation contamination was extending outward into the Pacific.   Dennis can you see that slide and comment on it?  [Editor’s Note: Dr. Fetzer was probably referring to an article such as” “Fukushima Plume Arrives at West Coast — Expert: “If this was of greater health concern, we’d be very worried”; One model predicts levels over 1,000% higher than another, “this is not really acceptable” (GRAPHIC), Published: February 25th, 2014 at 11:37 am ET  by ENENews.



Cimino: Yes there have been some updates to the initial ones that came out that show that the deposition of the radiation along the West Coast is actually significantly higher than we thought it would be down in the southern areas around San Diego and all the way down into the Mexican waters to the south of San Diego. So what we had initially surmised based on the early models, that the Pacific Northwest was probably going to be the side that got hit the hardest. That actually really isn’t true. It is tragically sad that the whole entire West Coast has probably been uniformly hit because of probably the homogeneity of the mixture of the radionuclides in the ocean relative to the concentration levels and stuff. So it is really kind of a real uniform broad brush that has really hit everything all the way up into Alaska all the way down into Central America probably by now. Dr. Fetzer: We will get there. We have other slides that are going to reflect it. Let us look at the next. Here are more reports from that same Energy News site. This is now August 3rd: “TV: “Can’t believe it’s happened again” on San Francisco coast — Mysterious whale deaths baffling scientists — Officials: An “inexplicable” trend — Dolphins wash up dead on beach nearby, “heartbreaking to hear the dying baby calling out” (VIDEO)”


TV: “Can’t believe it’s happened again” on San Francisco coast — Mysterious whale deaths baffling scientists — Officials: An “inexplicable” trend — Dolphins wash up dead on beach nearby, “heartbreaking to hear the dying baby calling out” (VIDEO)

Published: August 3rd, 2015 at 8:34 pm ET

San Francisco Chronicle, Aug 2, 2015 (emphasis added): Another dead whale washes up on Pacifica beach — Yet another dead whale washed up at a Pacifica beach in what has become an inexplicable summer trend, marine officials reported… The whale that washed up Sunday is just the latest in a string of mysterious dead whales found in the area. A humpback whale washed up on Sharp Park Beach in Pacifica in May, and in April the rotting carcass of a sperm whale on the beach near Mori Point left scientists baffled as a dissection revealed no official cause of death.

AP, Aug 2, 2015: A dead humpback whale has washed up at a beach in the city of Pacifica, the latest of a series of dead whales found along Northern California’s coast…

Sun Times, Aug 2, 2015: A dead Humpback whale washed onto the shore at a Pacifica beach Sunday… This whale is just one of numerous dead whales that have washed onto California’s beaches this year… The cause of these occurrences is still baffling scientists

NBC Bay Area transcript, Aug 2, 2015: Can’t believe it has happened again — in Pacifica scientists ware trying to figure out exactly what has killed a whale that has washed ashore… the third dead whale to wash ashore in the last few months… Neighbors are concerned… (Moe Flannery, California Academy of Sciences:) “We found injuries consistent with blunt force trauma… We can’t say definitively, but we did see signs, hemorrhaging in the muscle” … Neighbors say it reminds them of 2 other dead whales… (Witness:) “It’s just really sad to see, and this the third one I’ve seen in the last couple of months”… So again, this is still under investigation.

San Luis Obispo Tribune,  Jul 8, 2015: Two dolphins die on beach at San Simeon Cove… The baby dolphin… died as trained rescuers frantically tried to keep it alive… “It was heartbreaking, so sad” to hear the dying baby calling out, said Carolyn Skinder, program coordinator for the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary’s southern region… Officials say they don’t yet  know what killed the animals… They hope to determine whether the two dolphins were related, and what may have killed them.

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Last week in Alaska:  Unprecedented deaths along U.S. Pacific coast — Scientists: Mass die-offs of mammals, birds, fish… “No one’s sure what happened” — Gov’t wants Unusual Mortality Event declared — Samples “being tested for radionuclides from Fukushima”

Watch NBC’s broadcast here


Dr. Fetzer: August 1st: “USA Today: Millions of fish dead in Pacific Northwest — Ocean conditions have ‘gone to hell’ — Salmon covered in fungus, red lesions all over, big gaping sores — Extinction concerns, “it could be the end” — Experts: It’s crazy… Unprecedented… Catastrophic… Worst they’ve ever seen” (VIDEO & PHOTOS)


USA Today: Millions of fish dead in Pacific Northwest — Ocean conditions have ‘gone to hell’ — Salmon covered in fungus, red lesions all over, big gaping sores — Extinction concerns, “it could be the end” — Experts: It’s crazy… Unprecedented… Catastrophic… Worst they’ve ever seen (VIDEO & PHOTOS)

Published: August 1st, 2015 at 5:43 pm ET

USA Today, Jul 31, 2015 (emphasis added): … weather in the Pacific Northwest is killing millions of fish

AP, Jul 27, 2015: More than a quarter million sockeye salmon returning from the ocean to spawn are either dead or dying in the Columbia… wiping out at least half of this year’s returning population… [NOAA’s Ritchie Graves] says up to 80 percent of the population could ultimately perish.

Eureka Times Standard, Jul 29, 2015: With recent fish counting surveys on two Klamath River tributaries showing alarmingly low numbers… fisheries experts are growing increasingly concerned… The South Fork Trinity River is also showing a low presence of wild Chinook salmon adults… Fisheries experts are not certain why the tributaries have such a low salmon population

Washington Post, Jul 30, 2015: … Native American tribes are becoming increasingly worried [wild salmon] might disappear… the current threat is worse than anything they have seen… “We’re very worried,” said Kathryn Brigham, chair of the Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission… An estimated quarter-million salmon, more than half of the spring spawning run up the Columbia River, perished, likely killed by a disease that thrives in warm water and causes gill rot…  Adults stay in the Pacific Ocean from three to seven years… Some populations “could go extinct,” [Greg McMillan with Oregon’s Deschutes River Alliance] said.

KOIN transcript, Jul 27, 2015: Half of the sockeye salmon in the Columbia River are dying… Biologists are calling this die-off unprecedented… (Nick Blevins, fisherman:) “The fish are not looking in good condition… Some of them will have lesions… The sockeye already have gill diseases“… It could be the end for these endangered species. (Blevins:) “For something that’s been here longer than us that’s going to go to extinction, we’re not too far behind then.”

Spokesman Review, Jul 24, 2015: “Never in my entire (29-year) career have I seen anything like this,” [Jeff Korth, fisheries manager] said. “A minimum of 300,000 adult salmon have died… We’re seeing big gaping sores… 15,000 sockeye tried to go up the Okanogan last week… They all diedMy goal was to retire before ocean conditions go to hell again.”

Seattle Times, Jul 27, 2015: … the Columbia [has turned] into a kill zone where salmon immune systems are weakened and fish die of infections… Some [are] suffering from a bacterial disease. Others have backs covered with a mottled white fungus. All are expected to die… Mary Peters, a microbiologist who works for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service [said] “It’s crazy.”… Salmon also face challenges in the ocean… “My guess is that this is going to be one of the poorest years for salmon (ocean) survival” said Bill Peterson, a [NOAA] scientist… “Things do not look good”… Diseased fish with red marks that are signs of a bacterial infection have been found… Some of them actually have red splotches all over

Daily Record, Jul 31, 2015: [Toby Kock,  Columbia River Research Laboratory biologist is] seeing a great many fish suffering from columnaris bacterial infections which shows up as frayed or ragged fins, ulcerations and fungus-like white patches on skin and gill filaments.

Spokesman Review, Jul 17, 2015: “Catastrophic“ is a word that’s being used as scientists begin to unravel the mystery… [They’re] finding dead fish, both shad and sockeyethe words scientists use to describe what’s going on are freakier than the photos:

  • WA Dept of Fish & Wildlife: “Very bad news… carnage is ugly… conversion rates… 2-5%”
  • Scientist from B.C., Canada: “Catastrophic losses… have begun to occur… It may be advisable for DFO communications to identify “talking points”… very soon to get out in front of events… [in]more than 40 years and cannot remember anything comparable to what were currently seeing unfold on the coast!

Watch KOIN’s broadcast here


Dr. Fetzer:  July 30th: “Gov’t: Erosion is “undermining foundation” of major dam upstream of US nuclear plants — “Extensive network” of seepage paths found — “Water flowing through from multiple sources & multiple directions” — Nuclear plants doing Problem Evaluation Reports on ‘complex and urgent’ situation” (VIDEO)


Gov’t: Erosion is “undermining foundation” of major dam upstream of US nuclear plants — “Extensive network” of seepage paths found — “Water flowing through from multiple sources & multiple directions” — Nuclear plants doing Problem Evaluation Reports on ‘complex and urgent’ situation (VIDEO)

Published: July 30th, 2015 at 11:58 pm ET

TVA’s Boone Dam repair announcement, Jul 30, 2015 (emphasis added):

  • 2:30 — The location of this sinkhole and the presence of the sediment… really raised the possibility of a safety concern with the dam… The initial investigation showed that we had internal erosion. A phenomenon called ‘piping’ where voids from water flowing through the dammore of a stream-like effect — than just seepage. Internal erosion is one of the leading causes of dam failures around the world. So we knew that we had to do something here to protect the safety of the public… particularly downstream risk… Around the clock inspectors [are] keeping surveillance on the dam [and we have] sensors to monitor movements that might occur in the dam itself.
  • 4:00 — One of the key findings so far is that water is flowing through the foundation from multiple sources, and in multiple directions. It’s actually seeping through porous rock — rainwater upstream, through porous rock, through the dam
  • 9:15 — There’s still a lot of unknowns as we move into the project.
  • 21:30 — There’s only 3 companies in the world that do this kind of remediation. That’s the complexity we’re talking about.
  • 24:00 — Reporter: You said that water was coming from multiple sources and moving in multiple directions. To the people who are watching… I would think they would think that seems like an impossible task to do. There are some… in this community who think… that Boone Dam can’t be fixed… Is there a possibility that these solutions that you’re proposing won’t work?

TVA’s Boone Dam Investigation and Analysis Summary: [There is] “internal erosion,” in which voids develop within a dam and/or its foundation because of the action of flowing groundwater… one of the leading causes of dam failures… March of 2015, TVA discovered a well-developed, complex network of groundwater seepage paths coming from sources other than the reservoir… surface runoff flows underneath the dam and is a leading contributor to the observed seepage and sinkhole… Further investigation has confirmed that deterioration of the cutoff trench has occurred as seepage flows continue to undermine the foundation of the embankment dam… If left unaddressed, continued internal erosion may lead to enlargement of the network of voids at which time a large influx of water into the voids could cause rapid acceleration of internal erosion and eventual breaching of the dam. Due to the complex and urgent nature of the situation at Boone Dam, TVA has complemented its own dam safety engineers with nationally recognized experts… In its current state, the dam cannot be relied upon to serve the functions for which it was constructed. In the unlikely event of a dam failure, risks to the public would include: … loss of critical infrastructure [and] potential loss of life… [We are] engaging local and state emergency management officials… developing specific plans to address potential emergencies and conducting mock exercises to execute those plans. TVA has also initiated efforts to reinforce downstream facilities in a way that will minimize potential risks from an unlikely failure of Boone Dam...


Dr. Fetzer: And here is the next model in the following slide of how the Fukushima radiation is extending toward the West Coast.  And Dennis you have so much to say, let me just move through a couple more slides and I will turn you loose because I want to hear more of what you have to say.  Here we have more reports and now I will read them in chronological order.
     From the 9th of August:  “Toxic bloom “basically eating the West Coast alive” — “Unusual deaths up and down the Pacific coast” — “All populations of marine mammals are way down” in areas — Experts: “Largest ever recorded… This is really unprecedented territory… Never seen an event like this” (VIDEO)  Mass die off implied. 


Toxic bloom “basically eating the West Coast alive” — “Unusual deaths up and down the Pacific coast” — “All populations of marine mammals are way down” in areas — Experts: “Largest ever recorded… This is really unprecedented territory… Never seen an event like this” (VIDEO)

Published: August 9th, 2015 at 9:48 pm ET

Al Jazeera, Aug 1, 2015: The toxic algae blooms in the Pacific Ocean stretching from southern California to Alaska — already the largest ever recorded — appear to have reached as far as the Aleutian Islands, scientists say. “The anecdotal evidence suggests we’re having a major event,” said Bruce Wright, a scientist with the Aleutian Pribilof Island Association… “All the populations (of marine mammals) are way down in the Aleutians.”… the blooms are responsible for unprecedented closures of fisheries and unusual deaths of marine life up and down the Pacific coast… The discovery of nearly a dozen dead whales in the Gulf of Alaska near Kodiak also raised suspicion… Other die-offs of species have been reported along the Aleutian chain, stretching nearly 1,500 miles across the north Pacific.

CBS/AP, Aug 5, 2015: Toxic algae bloom in Pacific even larger than thought… ocean researchers say this one is much larger and persisting much longer, with higher levels of neurotoxins bringing severe consequences for the… marine ecosystems…  [Vera Trainer, with Univ. of Washington and NOAA’s Harmful Algal Blooms Program] said this bloom is the worst she’s seen in 20 years of studying them… “It’s been incredibly thick, almost all the same organism. Looks like a layer of hay,” said Raphael Kudela, a professor of ocean sciences at University of California, Santa Cruz. Kudela told CBS… “It’s definitely the largest bloom of this particular algae seen on the West Coast, possibly anywhere, ever.”… “It’s really working its way into the food web and we’re definitely seeing the impacts of that,” Kudela said, noting that sea lions are getting sick and pelicans are being exposed… The most recent samples showed the highest-ever recorded concentrations of domoic acid in the internal organs of Dungeness crab, Ayres said. “This is really unprecedented territory for us,” said [Dan Ayres, Washington Dept. of Fish & Wildlife].

USA Today, Aug 7, 2015: A massive toxic algal bloom thriving in the warm water along the West Coast may be the largest ever recorded, according to [NOAA] scientists. The bloom stretches 40 miles wide and in some places is 650 feet deep. It runs from California to Alaska, and has shuttered lucrative fisheries in several coastal states. “It’s unprecedented,” [said Trainer].

Grist, Aug 7, 2015: A huge, toxic algae bloom is basically eating the West Coast alive… and more toxic than anyone suspected… scientists have never known one to be this bad before.

Capital Public Radio, Aug 7, 2015: In nearly 25 years of research, Trainer says she’s never seen an event like this

Reuters, Aug 6, 2015: Massive toxic algae bloom reaches from California to Alaska… [it] stretches thousands of miles from the Channel Islands off the coast of Southern California to Alaska’s Aleutian Islands and has surprised researchers by its size and composition. “It’s just lurking there,” Vera Trainer, research oceanographer with the Northwest Fisheries Science Center in Washington state, told Reuters on Thursday. “It’s the longest lasting, highest toxicity and densest bloom that we’ve ever seen.”… Researchers are investigating whether the bloom is linked to several suspicious marine mammal deaths

Discover Magazine, Aug 6, 2015: Record Algae Bloom Laced With Toxins is Flourishing in “The Blob” — and Spreading in the North Pacific… a record-breaking bloom of algae stretching from Southern California all the way north to Alaska… Toxins from the algae are suspected to have contributed to the deaths of at least nine Fin whales near Kodiak Island, Alaska, in June, although a definitive cause has not yet been determined, NOAA says. There have also been reports of dead and dying whales, gulls, and forage fish in Alaska’s Aleutian Islands

Regarding the suggestion made in three of the articles above that the 18 whale deaths in Alaska could be linked to harmful algae blooms, researchers from the Univ. of Alaska Fairbanks reported last month: “Biotoxins caused by warm water–induced harmful algal blooms are a possibility, although tissue from the sampled fin whale tested for domoic acid came back negative… Scientists have followed up on other possible causes… even radionuclides from the Fukushima reactor…. a muscle tissue sample from a dead fin whale [was submitted] for Cesium 137 analysis, with results pending.”

Watch The Weather Channel’s video here | Capital Public Radio broadcast here


Dr. Fetzer: How about August 11th, “US Gov’t Expert: Fukushima is always on people’s minds… a lot of concern and worry about radiation’s role in unusual marine deaths — Reports of shrunken or enlarged organs, black kidneys, sores on liver, slime in mouth, discolored skin — Mortality in intertidal zone like `we haven’t seen before’” (VIDEO)


US Gov’t Expert: Fukushima is always on people’s minds… a lot of concern and worry about radiation’s role in unusual marine deaths — Reports of shrunken or enlarged organs, black kidneys, sores on liver, slime in mouth, discolored skin — Mortality in intertidal zone like “we haven’t seen before” (VIDEO)

Published: August 11th, 2015 at 12:40 am ET

Gay Sheffield, NOAA Sea Grant (US Dept. of Commerce) marine advisory agent, July 2014 at 31:00 in (emphasis added): “I’m here in Bering Strait and I know there’s people [on this call] from all over the state, so they may not be familiar with some of our events. Right after Fukushima blew, we had, and still sort of have… an unusual mortality event with four species of seals in this region, all the way from Bristol Bay, up to Barrow (the Russian side), and all the way into Canada… A lot of people were curious, because we have never been able to find an infectious disease. A lot of people were concerned and worried that this Fukushima radiation had some effectFukushima is a big concern in this region… Fukushima is always on people’s minds… Here’s the cover of the Nome Nugget, that’s our newspaper here, and the top story was the lack of radiation monitoring was really annoying people — that we had nothing, nothing was being done. It was a concern all the time on people’s minds — with the seals, with the birds, and what notit was making the front news of the paper. I hope that lets others know that the concern people have in Western Alaska… it’s a big thing.”

A long list of unusual events soon after Fukushima may explain why it’s “always on people’s minds” in Alaska:

  • Nanwalek, AK… Change in barnacle numbers raises harvest questions… Above normal amounts of barnacles [have] fallen from the coastal rocks. They are concerned about the amount of change in the shellfishWe have not seen this before and… are worried about the safety of chitons and shellfish to eat.
  • Shishmaref, AK… Discolored seal with sores on side flipper… Hopefully this seal will bring us closer to understanding what may be causing the illness and disease that our marine mammals are being affected by… [Another seal] came from Russia, colored orange.
  • Shishmaref, AK… Unusual bearded sealslime within the mouth… upon butchering there was hardly any fat… the liver was described as small… approximately 1/2 the size of a normal liver… kidney was approximately twice as big as the other… the bigger kidney had the appearance of darker color, and also most black… [sores] on the liver and kidney.
  • Old Harbor, AK… Three dead whales…This is an unusual sighting for us.
  • McDonald Spit, AK… Intertidal zone barnacle mortality… The fauna on the intertidal rocks seems to decreasedA lot of the large barnacle shells are empty… [We] are concerned and curious what caused this change.
  • St. George, AK… Two marine mammal carcasses were found… I’m getting out information so if other dead mammals are spotted… we could get a better understanding
  • Nome, AK… Beached decaying grey whale washed up
  • Elim, AK… Several sightings of dead baby belugas… over the past few days. There is at least two more baby belugas washed up on the beach… we don’t see stranded ones very often… We are concerned… and wonder why they occur.
  • Moses Point, AK … dead beluga whale.
  • Old Harbor, AK… Dead humpback whale… Our concern has to do with the impact it might have to our subsistence lifestyle. It is unusual to find so many dead whales.
  • Saint George, AK… Red colored water observed in harbor… The community members who brought this to my attention said they haven’t seen anything like this.

Watch Sheffield’s presentation here


Dr. Fetzer:  August 11th: “Officials: “Trillions of becquerels of radioactive material still flowing into sea” at Fukushima — Map shows nuclear waste coming up from bottom of ocean far offshore — Japan TV Journalist: “Contaminated seawater will circulate around globe… disaster like a huge cloth expanding everyday” (VIDEO)


Officials: “Trillions of becquerels of radioactive material still flowing into sea” at Fukushima — Map shows nuclear waste coming up from bottom of ocean far offshore — Japan TV Journalist: “Contaminated seawater will circulate around globe… disaster like a huge cloth expanding everyday” (VIDEO)

Published: August 11th, 2015 at 2:19 pm ET

Interview with NHK journalist Morley Robertson, by the Center for Remembering 3.11, published Jun 30, 2012 (emphasis added): I begin with the radiation leakage. Radiation leakage exerts a long term effect on the environment. It contaminates our food chain, the groundwater and the ocean. And the contaminated seawater will circulate around the globe. We never know how much this will impact on the environment… We’ll never able to study such issues with empirical certainty… [Due to nuclear testing] we have already accumulated “hidden losses” of radiation damage… how much is the [Fukushima] cesium in relation to that?… I believe we should enjoy delicious food rather than worrying about the food. I enjoyed the town’s delicacy… I didn’t mind about how the beef was produced or where it came from. As long as it is tasty, it is no problem for me. With regard to radiation, I have become more optimistic. My hypothesis is that it’s no use worrying about radiation. For people in Fukushima, they have a lot to worry about their future, like damaged reputation… One reason why we have relied on nuclear plants is because we didn’t know about the factsWe need to face the factsRad-waste from the nuclear cycle is said to be unsolvable even after 2.5 million years.

Part II of Robertson’s Interview, published Jun 30, 2012: In 1974, then PM Tanaka declared, “Let ‘s go nuclear!”… we were issued credit cards to buy electric goods to consume the extra electricity… It is OK to say that everything was just a lie… and 3/11 happened. So we must study everything. It is no longer about what to do with Onagawa nuclear power plant, Miyagi or Tohoku. This is about what to do with Japan. This has been revealed by our vulnerability to the accident… So when we talk about “disaster“, it’s like a huge wrapping cloth expanding everyday.

  • NHK: Morley is a journalist… working in the fields of television, radio, and lecture meetings… he studied at the University of Tokyo and Harvard University.
  • Robertson’s Wikipedia entry (translated  from Japanese by Microsoft): In 1968, because of father’s job moved to… Hiroshima [to work] on Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission [and] undertook study of atomic bomb patients.

TEPCO, updated Mar 10, 2015: Fukushima Daiichi Contaminated Water Issue FAQ — Q1 Please explain the impact of the leaked radioactive materials on the sea. [Answer:] TEPCO announced that underground water including radioactive materials had leaked into the port… It has been implied that trillions of becquerels of adioactive materials are still flowing into the sea; however, the concentration of radioactive materials in the sea is at a level that meets the Guidelines for Drinking-water Quality, except for some areas…

TEPCO, Apr 28, 2015: Comprehensive risk review was implemented, considering all the possible risks that might have an impact outside the Fukushima Daiichi NPS site… The paths through which water could leak outside the site: …

  • Sources of risk — Trenches… Pits… Tanks… Accumulated water inside reactor buildings… Contamination inside the port
  • Leakage routes — Ground surface… Drainage channels… Underground (groundwater)
  • Destination of the contaminated material… The Sea: Unit 1-4 water intake channel… Inside the port… Outside the port

Watch Robertson’s interview here (click ‘CC’ for English)


Dr. Fetzer: Here we get yet another model of what is taking place in the following slide:  “Radioactive fallout map.”  Dennis, you can see that one, as these are early models still.
Cimino:  Yes, I can see it.  These have been superseded by stuff that is a little bit more dramatically horrible than what you are looking at on the screen now  [9:25]
Fetzer:  Yes, well I will get through a few more reports and then we will turn it over to you.  The next slide is another series from the energy site which has been among the few.
     Here we get from 14 August: “Animals shrunk after Fukushima crisis began — Japan Scientists: We conclude that the small size was caused by environmental stress imposed by unusual event” which, I might add, is simply absurd. 


Animals shrunk after Fukushima crisis began — Japan Scientists: We conclude that the small size was caused by environmental stress imposed by unusual event

Published: August 14th, 2015 at 5:58 pm ET

Scientific Reports — Wataru Taira, Mayo Iwasaki & Joji M. Otaki (BCPH Unit of Molecular Physiology, University of the Ryukyus, Japan), published Jul 22, 2015 (emphasis added):

  • Body size distributions of the pale grass blue butterfly in Japan: Size rules and the status of the Fukushima population
  • The body size of the pale grass blue butterfly, Zizeeria maha, has been used as an environmental indicator of radioactive pollution caused by the Fukushima nuclear accident… Our study…
  • supports the idea that the size reduction observed only in Fukushima Prefecture in 2011 was caused by the environmental stress of radioactive pollution.
  • Following the massive environmental pollution caused by the release of radionuclides from the collapsed Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant, the pale grass blue butterfly was used to monitor and examine the biological impacts of this pollution. Forewing size, a proxy for body size, of this butterfly was utilized as an indicator of the effects of environmental stressors. Adult butterflies collected from Fukushima City, Motomiya City, and Koriyama City (all within the Fukushima Prefecture) in the spring of 2011 had smaller forewing sizes than those collected from the northern and southern localities at the same time. It has been demonstrated that small forewing size can be induced by external exposure to a cesium radiation source or internal exposure by ingesting contaminated foods.
  • We found small male forewing sizes in the spring of 2011 in Fukushima City, Motomiya City, and Koriyama City… In light of the results of this study, we conclude that the small forewing size detected in the spring 2011 in Fukushima Prefecture was caused by environmental stress that was imposed by an unusual event (likely the Fukushima nuclear accident) covering a relatively large geographical range of Fukushima Prefecture.
  • The small forewing size of the pale grass blue butterfly in Fukushima Prefecture in the spring of 2011 was likely due to the Fukushima nuclear accident.

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Dr. Fetzer: August 17th” “Unprecedented volcano warning near Japan’s only restarted nuke plant — Mountain is swelling, expanding — Large amounts of magma causing ‘sudden crustal movement’ — Gov’t Now: Extremely high risk of major eruption… Gov’t Before Nuke Restart: `Little chance of major eruption’” (VIDEO)


Unprecedented volcano warning near Japan’s only restarted nuke plant — Mountain is swelling, expanding — Large amounts of magma causing ‘sudden crustal movement’ — Gov’t Now: Extremely high risk of major eruption… Gov’t Before Nuke Restart: “Little chance of major eruption” (VIDEO)

Published: August 17th, 2015 at 8:29 am ET

The Independent, Aug 16, 2015 (emphasis added): Japan’s weather agency issued a warning… that the likelihood of the eruption of [Sakurajima] was extremely high… after it detected a spike in seismic activity… They have warned an evacuation of the city of just over 600,000 people may be necessary. [JMA] said: “The possibility for a large-scale eruption has become extremely high for Sakurajima.”… It comes as a nuclear reactor 50 kilometres (31 miles) away was switched back on.

Mainichi, Aug 17, 2015: On Aug. 15 alone, there were 1,023 volcanic earthquakes… the JMA has pointed out that crustal changes that indicate mountain swell as a result of a magma rise are still continuing… Kazuya Kokubo [with JMA said] “underground pressure hasn’t been relieved. An eruption could occur at any time.”

Asahi Shimbun, Aug 16, 2015: … the mountain [is] expanding… [officials] estimate that a large volume of magma continues to accumulate.

Reuters/Kyodo, Aug 15, 2015: The agency also said it had raised the warning level … to an unprecedented 4.

Jiji Press, Aug 17, 2015: [Japan] remained alert for signs of a major eruption… [An official] called on the public to act calmlya major eruption could be imminent. Level 4 is the highest ever for Sakurajima… “I have lived in Sakurajima for more than 50 years but have not imagined we would have to evacuate,” said Emiko Miyashita, 80… crustal movement was also observed [and there’s] signs indicating magma has risen to near the volcanic vent… “It would be no surprise if it were to erupt at any moment,” an agency official said...


Dr. Fetzer: August 18th: Official: `Thousands of Millions’ of fish wash up dead in Alaska — Piles of them… I have never seen anything like it… First time we’ve ever heard of this (VIDEO)”


Official: “Thousands of Millions” of fish wash up dead in Alaska — Piles of them… I have never seen anything like it… First time we’ve ever heard of this (VIDEO)

Published: August 18th, 2015 at 11:05 am ET

Alaska Dispatch News, Aug 13, 2015 (emphasis added): Warm water killing fish in Mat-Su and Anchorage… killing salmon in the Matanuska and Susitna valleys… Arctic char… have also gone belly up… “It will have some impact but in the long term for species that return multiple age classes, I wouldn’t characterize it as a disaster,” said Mike Bethe, Mat-Su area manager for the Habitat Division of the Alaska Department of Fish and Game… dead salmon have been found near the [Knik River’s] weir… Dead fish have been turning up in other Mat-Su streams…

Juneau Empire, Aug 7, 2015: Herring mystery… dead baby herring in the algae-filled empty squares of the Statter Harbor breakwater. “It’s hard to know why, but there’s a lot of them,” Juneau-based marine ecologist Michelle Ridgway] said. “It’s fairly dramatic.”

KUCB, Aug 17, 2015: Dead herring… on Unalaska shorelines… “Hundreds of herring floating in the water,” Caleb Livingston [said] “But what really got my attention was the few that drifted on the beach were not being eaten by the eagles, or seagulls or terns.” Scientists have been receiving reports of dead and dying whales, birds and the small fish… “Their fins are deteriorated while their eyes are intact,” [Melissa Good, Univ. of Alaska Fairbanks] said. “I think it’s probably bait fish that got dumped.” Even so, Good said she will send herring… to an Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation lab…

Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium, Feb 24, 2015:

  • 26:45 — Moses Tcheripanoff, Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium geographer: If you wouldn’t mind sharing with us a little about what’s going on here, it’s a really interesting observation.
  • 27:30 — Roderick Phillip, Environmental Coordinator for the Native Village of Kongiganak, AK: Needlefish, thousands of millions [i.e. billions] of needlefish… For about  a mile there was needlefish and smelts. Dead needlefish… It was just millions of needlefish, piles of them… and also smelts. Last year… same situation… It was the first time we heard of needlefish and smelts being flooded out of the river.
  • 29:30 – M. Tcheripanoff: How did all those fish die? … I’m trying to understand what exactly happened to cause the fish die-off… You haven’t ever seen this kind of thing happen before, other than last year?
  • 30:45 — R. Phillip: I talked to the local board and elders, they haven’t heard about this [happening before].

Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium,  Local Environmental Observers Network, Feb 20, 2015: Fish die-off… Kongiganak, Alaska… This is unusual for our community to see thousands of fish dead… like last year we are starting to see this happen. I have not seen anything like this ever since I could remember for the past 35 years. Last years fish die off was the first and recently a lot more fish died off in a larger scale.

See also: US Govt: “We don’t know what’s going on” in Pacific — Many baby seals abandoned; Dozens of walruses dead; Dying whales, birds, fish — “Unprecedented things happening” — Experts: “It’s been a very unusual marine mammal year… I’m really worried, very concerned”

Watch the ANTHC webinar here


Dr. Fetzer:  August 20th: “Unbelievable!’: Scientists stunned as 3 rare giant oarfish found dead off Los Angeles in recent weeks — Flesh falling apart while still alive, body parts missing — Biologist: `Of course I’m very concerned… for some reason they’re dying… it’s very strange’ — Being tested for toxins (VIDEO)”


‘Unbelievable!’: Scientists stunned as 3 rare giant oarfish found dead off Los Angeles in recent weeks — Flesh falling apart while still alive, body parts missing — Biologist: “Of course I’m very concerned… for some reason they’re dying… it’s very strange” — Being tested for toxins (VIDEO)

Published: August 20th, 2015 at 10:23 am ET

Los Angeles Times, Aug 17, 2015 (emphasis added): Biggest oarfish seen at Catalina Island in years washes ashore… marking a rare sighting of the deep-sea creature… [It] was 24 feet long when it was alive, said Annie MacAulay, a marine biologist… its tail [was] severed off — which oarfish have been known to do to shed weight and save energy, she said… The one found Monday had an empty pocket in its stomach, which MacAulay said could mean it recently stopped eating, a potential sign of distress or sickness… a handful of oarfish [have] washed up on California’s coasts in recent years.

New York Daily News, Aug 17, 2015: Stunned scientists fished for clues Monday to explain the origin of the giant oarfish that washed up on the shores of Catalina — the third massive marine oarfish found on the island in two years’ time [see articles below for additional finds]… The sleek silver fish was missing its pectoral fins and tailperplexed researchers are looking for a reason why. Dr. Misty Paig-Tran from California State University Fullerton collected tissue samples… to determine whether it had any toxins in its system. But questions still remain as to why these fish are dying… The conservationist also speculated that water pollution could be to blame.

OC Register, Aug 19, 2015: This is the third oarfish to be documented on the island [since] 2013… MacAulay said the animal didn’t come to shore because of an illness or shark attack. When she dissected the fish, she discovered a belly full of krill… “It’s very strange, and the other one in June was the same,” she said.

Gazettes (Long Beach), Aug 19, 2015: MacAulay said this is the third such creature to wash up on the island in the past two years…. Before then, MacAulay said she isn’t aware of any others… … Sightings are extremely rare. Those that come near the shore are usually distressed.

AP, Aug 19, 2015: Residents of Santa Catalina Island have found a second sea monster on their shores in just three months… {MacAulay] says to see two in a three-month period after never seeing one her entire career is incredibly exciting.

Mountain and Sea Educational Adventures, Aug 17, 2015: Unbelievable! The second oarfish that we found washed up on the shores of Catalina Island.

  • MacAulay: “You’re lucky to see one oarfish in your lifetime, so to see 2 within 3 months… I’ve been working on this island for 17 years and I had never seen any until June.”
  • MacAulay: “I’ve been working here for more than 20 years out on the water and I’ve never seen one… three have been found so recently… it is sad.”
  • MacAulay: “It’s so unusual that all these years I don’t see any oarfish, and then have seen two in the last few months.”
  • MacAulay: “To see two of them in a three-month period when I’ve been working on the island for 20 years and in marine biology for almost 30 years… of course (I’m) very concerned because… for some reason they’re dying.”

San Diego Reader, Jun 30, 2015: First-ever oarfish caught on rod… That it was in shallow water for an oarfish gives the implication that it was unhealthy… crew tried to gaff and raise the 20-foot fish to the boat. The soft flesh only tore, and they had to give up…

Pete Thomas Outdoors, Jul 8, 2015: The bizarre catch… was snagged and barely alive… a crewman attempted to collect it with a gaff, but the flesh was too soft for the gaff to holdfor some reason Catalina has become a hot spot for sightings.

Bruce Smith, captain of sport fishing boat, Jun 29, 2015: “We caught an oarfish… at Catalina… in shallow water like 5 fathoms [30 feet]… It was pretty much dead… I know they washed up on the beach here a couple times… It was very surprising, it’s a once in lifetime thing.”

Los Angeles Times, Jun 3, 2015: Rare oarfish found dead on Catalina… The first sighting of a live oarfish was only recorded 2001, when one was caught on film by the U.S. Navy…

Los Angeles Times, Oct 10, 2013: 2 giant oarfish wash onto California coast, making scientists curious — It’s been the week of the oarfish along the Southern California coast. A 14-foot oarfish carcass was discovered Friday by a snorkeler off the beach in Oceanside. Earlier in the week, an 18-foot oarfish was found dead off Catalina Island.

Watch the LA Times’ video here | Full report from Cpt. Smith here


Dr. Fetzer:  Here is one more graphic image that is again a model.   This is getting closer to the reality, I think you would agree Dennis, that the contamination of the entire Pacific is being illustrated here.  And one final set of reports from the energy site I will go through and then I will turn it over to you. 
August 24th:  “`Horrific environmental mystery… Everyone’s freaked out’: 1,500% normal death rate in whales off West Coast — Gov’t declares unprecedented Unusual Mortality Event — Scientists alarmed, ‘no idea’ what’s happening — Expert: `It’s all going to cascade up to us’ — Other die-offs being reported (VIDEOS)”


“Horrific environmental mystery… Everyone’s freaked out”: 1,500% normal death rate in whales off West Coast — Gov’t declares unprecedented Unusual Mortality Event — Scientists alarmed, ‘no idea’ what’s happening — Expert: “It’s all going to cascade up to us” — Other die-offs being reported (VIDEOS)

Published: August 24th, 2015 at 7:52 am ET

NOAA, Aug 20, 2015 (emphasis added): 2015 large whale stranding locations in the Western Gulf of Alaska… These mortalities are unusual because there is a marked increase in the magnitude or a marked change in the nature of morbidity, mortality or strandings when compared with prior records… Additionally, large whale strandings have increased during the months of July and August in the waters off of British Columbia, Canada… Large whale strandings have continued to the present… Additionally, a common murre die-off was reported… This is the first large whale UME in Alaska.

AP: 30 large whales [have died in the] Gulf of Alaska… [NOAA] declared the deaths an “unusual mortality event”… [In Canada] six large whales have been reported dead

Guardian: Experts puzzled as 30 whales stranded; Scientists ‘very concerned’… NOAA concedes ‘bottom line is we don’t know what’s causing deaths… [There’s] an official investigation into the mystery of what could be killing so many marine mammals.

Huffington Post: Whales are turning up dead along the Alaska coast in alarming numbers, and scientists so far have no idea what’s causing it… 30 whales have been found dead… That compares to just five dead whales in all of last year.

CBC Newsfour whales species have been identified… humpback, sperm, grey and fin.

Alaska Dispatch: The whale deaths may be tied to a larger marine pattern, officials said… managers are coping with several abnormalities in the PacificThousands of starving sea lion pups [and] large numbers of seabirds have died… “each of these individual species that are examined are really important to us as we put the whole ecosystem picture together,” [NOAA’s] Rowles said.

KING 5: “If you see one on the beach, you know there have to be more. They’re just dying off shore,” said [NOAA’s] Vera Trainer… “if whales and other marine mammals are getting a huge slug of toxin in their food… they’re going to have problems,” Trainer said… “It’s all going to Cascade up to us,” Trainer said… In addition to whales, Alaska’s seen dead walruses and a lot of dead or disoriented birds… “We think this is giving us a window into the future, and the concern is not just this year, but what’s going to happen in future years,” said Trainer.

Wired: Dozens of dead whales have been washing ashore in Alaska, and nobody knows why… The ordeal has everyone freaked out. NOAA has declared the string of strandings an “unusual mortality event.”… “horrific environmental mystery” seems like a much more appropriate label…

CNN: Whales are dying at an alarming rate in the western Gulf of Alaska… and officials in Alaska have also noted widespread deaths of common murres

KTVA: “A mysterious number of whale deaths in Alaskan waters is puzzling scientists tonight. It’s a mystery… The NOAA wants to know why there have been 30 dead whales in an area that normally sees about 8 deaths a year [Note: That’s an average of 2 every 3 months, 30 in 3 months is 15 times average]. NOAA scientists  say there’s nothing normal about the number of dead whales that have turned up in Alaskan waters… [NOAA scientist Aleria Jensen,] “It could also be some kind of disease or maybe another environmental issue.”

Washington Post: One cause that they’ve basically ruled out is radiation exposure. All it takes is a quick Google to know that many instinctively blame the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster for animal deaths. In acknowledgement of that, NOAA has added a note to its FAQ confirming that the tissue they sampled showed no signs of such contamination

The Post says NOAA has confirmed ‘no signs’ of contamination, however NOAA’s actual statement is full of caveats: “Is there any link to these large whale deaths to the Fukushima nuclear reactor meltdown? It is highly unlikely. From the one fin whale… Preliminary results do not suggest any unusual exposure to human-generated radionuclides, specifically cesium, that would be considered harmful to wildlife. Further testing is underway.”

Watch broadcasts: CNN | CBC | KING 5 | KTVA


Dr. Fetzer:  24 August “Record-breaking typhoon to make direct hit on Japan’s only restarted nuclear plant — 159 mph gust last night, strongest ever measured at location — Waves near 40 ft. high expected around island — Gov’t alerts for landslides and floods — Cracks and leaks already found at nuclear plant (VIDEO & MAP)


Record-breaking typhoon to make direct hit on Japan’s only restarted nuclear plant — 159 mph gust last night, strongest ever measured at location — Waves near 40 ft. high expected around island — Gov’t alerts for landslides and floods — Cracks and leaks already found at nuclear plant (VIDEO & MAP)

Published: August 24th, 2015 at 2:16 pm ET

Kyodo/Jiji, Aug 24, 2015 (emphasis added): Typhoon Goni… was poised to make a landfall on Kyushu on Tuesday morning… [JMA] alerted residents in… western Japan that there could be landslides and floods. Violent winds are expected in Kyushu from early Tuesday… Waves as high as 9 to 12 meters [39.3 feet] were forecast in seas around Kyushu.

PTI, Aug 24, 2015: Packing gusts up to 252 kilometres per hour [157 mph], Goni today was…  on course directly to hit Kyushu island tomorrow…

Jiji, Aug 24, 2015: Powerful Typhoon Goni slammed into… Japan’s Okinawa Prefecture Sunday night… The typhoon registered a maximum instantaneous wind speed of 71.0 meters per second [159 mph] on Ishigaki, the strongest on record there.

Mainichi, Aug 24, 2015: Powerful Typhoon Goni… is expected to… move close to the Kyushu region the following day while maintaining its strength, [JMA] has announced…. The Okinawa Prefecture city of Ishigaki [experienced] the strongest wind ever recorded since a local observatory began recording wind speed at the site in 1941.

AOL, Aug 24, 2015: 159 MPH wind gust reported in Ryukyu Islands… This breaks the site’s all-time record wind gust of 157 mph (70.2 m/s) set July 31, 1977… Sustained winds at that same site have peaked at 107.1 mph (47.9 m/s) which breaks their all-time August record… According to the U.S. military’s Joint Typhoon Warning Center, Typhoon Goni… had maximum estimated sustained winds of 125 mph as of Monday morning, U.S. time.

Korea Times, Aug 24, 2015: [JMA said] the typhoon’s wind speed was 158.8 miles per hour (mph) at one location on one of the Ryukyu Islands, breaking the site’s all-time record

NHK, Aug 24, 2015: Seawater leak found at Sendai nuclear plant — Sendai nuclear power plant in Kagoshima Prefecture [on Kyushu Island] says it found seawater used to cool steam has leaked…they found cracks in 5 pipes in one condenser… They are now checking the other tubes… The trouble occurred 9 days after the operator restarted the reactor… the first to go back online… The utility was due to raise the reactor’s power output to 100 percent… But the problems are expected to delay the scheduled work…

NHK transcript, Aug 24, 2015: Workers at an operating nuclear plant in Southwestern Japan have run into problems. They found cracks and leaks in pipes… The utility has been inspecting the pipes, finding cracks in five of them at one condenser. They say seawater had leaked from them. Workers stopped the flow of water by putting plugs into the five pipes. They’re now checking other ones. Officials with the plant operator say they’ll keep running the reactor.

From last week: Unprecedented volcano warning near Japan’s only restarted nuke plant — Mountain swelling — Large amounts of magma causing sudden crustal movement (VIDEO)

Watch NHK’s broadcast on the cracks and leaks here


Dr. Fetzer:  August 25th: “BREAKING: Fukushima nuclear waste detected along Southern California coast — Highest levels seen anywhere in North America since testing program began — 8.4 Bq/m3 of radioactive cesium measured near beach between Los Angeles and San Diego (VIDEO & MAP)”


BREAKING: Fukushima nuclear waste detected along Southern California coast — Highest levels seen anywhere in North America since testing program began — 8.4 Bq/m3 of radioactive cesium measured near beach between Los Angeles and San Diego (VIDEO & MAP)

Published: August 25th, 2015 at 6:07 pm ET

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution’s Center For Marine And Environmental Radiation:

  • Location: 32°57’0.00″N; 117°17’60.00″W [1.8  miles off the coast of Del Mar, California]
  • Sample Date: Apr 04, 2015 11:36
  • Depth: 3m
  • Cs134: 1.5 ± 0.1Bq/m3
  • Cs137: 6.9 ± 0.2Bq/m3


The sample was taken just over a mile off the coast of Del Mar, CA – located about 15 miles north of San Diego and 100 miles south of Los Angeles. The only other location Woods Hole has reported detecting nuclear waste from Fukushima Daiichi along the shoreline of North America is in Ucluelet, Canada about 1,200 miles to the north of Del Mar.

7.2 becquerels per cubic meter of Cesium-134 and Cesium-137 was measured in a Ucluelet sample taken in February 2015. The Del Mar sample had 8.4 Bq/m3.

Results for other Fukushima Daiichi-derived radionuclides were not posted. According to media reports, “The plume also contains other radioactive material, including Strontium 90… radioactive isotopes of iodine, low levels of plutonium and tritium might be in the plume.”

According to Woods Hole scientist Ken Buesseler, “As the plume begins to arrive along the West Coast [it] will actually increase in concentration… no public agency in the US is monitoring the activities in the Pacific… Without careful, extensive, consistent monitoring, we’ll have no way of knowing how much radiation from Fukushima is reaching our shores, and how it could affect life in the ocean.”

Watch Buesseler’s recent presentation near Del Mar, CA here


Dr. Fetzer: August 28th: “Many baby seals dying of leukemia-linked disorder along California coast — Blamed for over 1/3 of recent deaths at San Francisco Bay rescue center (CHART)”


Many baby seals dying of leukemia-linked disorder along California coast — Blamed for over 1/3 of recent deaths at San Francisco Bay rescue center (CHART)

Published: August 26th, 2015 at 3:53 pm ET

Of the 46 recently weaned northern elephant seals deaths reported by the San Francisco Bay Area’s Marine Mammal Center between April 20 and August 1 of this year, Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation was listed as a cause of death in 16 — over 1/3 of the total.

U.S. National Library of Medicine (emphasis added): Disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC) is a serious disorder in which the proteins that control blood clotting become over active… Risk factors for DIC include: Blood transfusion reaction; Cancer, especially certain types of leukemia

DIC “is a pathological process characterized by the widespread activation of the clotting cascade that results in the formation of blood clots in the small blood vessels throughout the body… and can ultimately lead to multiple organ damage… severe bleeding can occur from various sites. DIC does not occur by itself but only as a complicating factor from another underlying condition, usually in those with a critical illness… DIC can lead to multiorgan failure and widespread bleeding… Causes — DIC can occur in the following conditions: Solid tumors and blood cancers (particularly acute promyelocytic leukemia)… Sepsis or severe infection… Severe allergic or toxic reactions… Giant hemangiomas (Kasabach-Merritt syndrome) [and] Large aortic aneurysms.”

Acute promyelocytic leukemia is a subtype of acute myelogenous leukemia (AML), a cancer of the white blood cells. According to Wikipedia, “ionizing radiation exposure can increase the risk of AML. Survivors of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had an increased rate of AML, as did radiologists exposed to high levels of X-rays”

Journal of Intensive Care, 2014: Disseminated intravascular coagulation… with enhanced fibrinolysis is a DIC type usually seen in acute promyelocytic leukemia (APL)… The Scientific Standards Committee… defines DIC as ‘an acquired syndrome [that] can originate from and cause damage to the microvasculature, which if sufficiently severe, can produce organ dysfunction’… problems exist with this definition in terms of not taking into account the type of DIC often seen in acute leukemias (especially acute promyelocytic leukemia)

Journal of Occupational Medicine and Toxicology, 2013: A causal association with leukemia has only been documented to date for ionizing radiation, benzene and treatment with cytostatic drugs… A large number of studies included in the review referred to the effects of ionizing radiation, where new data suggest that the effects of exposure to small doses of ionizing radiation should probably be reevaluated… An update of [the Life Span Study (LSS) of A-Bomb survivors] has shown that exposure to ionizing radiation at doses as low as those usually recorded in occupational settings, leukemia incidence follows a quadratic dose response pattern… Moreover, there is uncertainty on whether the proposed safety limits from the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP) are appropriate, since revised LSS data show that the risk of leukemia remains increased even in groups with low cumulative exposure to radiation

Physics and Radiobiology of Nuclear Medicine (Springer), Jun 29, 2013: Leukemia is one of the most common cancers induced by radiation in humans, accounting for one in five mortalities from radiocarcinogenesis. Risk of leukemia varies with age, with younger persons being more prone to radiocarcinogenesis… Leukemia appears in as early as 2 to 3 years after the exposure, with an average latent period of 5 to 10 years.

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Dr. Fetzer: And now turning to the next image which seems to me to sum up the situation very well, I turn this over to you, Dennis. [12:41]


(Source:  Japan raises threat level on nuclear plant to highest level, posted by Chillymanjaro on April 12, 2011)


Dennis Cimino:   Well, the gravity of this whole entire four year long, looming and larger than life disaster that is just off the West Coast of the United States and now swirling around the earth, it is really hard to fathom it.  I mean, every now and then when I look at the enormity of how big  the problem is and the fact that there is virtually not much that can be done now at this stage of the game to intercept the coriums that are deep underneath the plant in a place where it would be very difficult to tunnel down to them to encapsulate them so that it would contain the future release of radionuclides into the Pacific.  We are in a situation now where after the dam has broken, it is almost ridiculous to talk about the “should have, would have, could have” scenarios that we could have done four years ago when this was a brand-new situation and it required probably the best and brightest minds in the nuclear power industry as well as physicists to come up with a solution, much in the same way that directly after Chernobyl, that occurred back in 1980s, the Russians were initially embarrassed that they did not at least bring to bear some of their brightest people to determine how they were going to encapsulate the problem.  They intercepted what is called the elephant's foot underneath the plant which was a giant pile of nuclear fuel that had melted and reached the containment of that reactor and was on its way down into the earth.  And they stopped it at a tremendous cost of human life, because there are photographs of many Russian workers in the same room with this highly radioactive blob standing there apparently unaware of the fact that they were being fried by being exposed to it.  But this one particular picture of the deceased Japanese gentleman down in a mudflat long after the whole [earthquake, meltdown, and tidal wave]; a major problem with the Unit Three explosion, in the follow-up of the loss of the cooling at the spent fuel pool for Unit Four and all the nasty mistakes that TEPCO made when they pumped seawater on to the fuel, which effectively accelerated the corrosion of the zircaloy cladding of the reactor fuel, essentially assuring that the minute that stuff saw air that there would be fires that would have fuel burning, that is precisely what has happened.  Over the period from March 2011 all the way to probably as late as last year there was evidence via webcam coverage, another photography, that they had raging fires burning --nuclear fires-- we are not talking about this burning metal, we are talking about fuel burning, releasing a high amount of radiation into the upper atmosphere, which of course finds its way across the Pacific in the jet stream, which deposited huge amounts of radiation across the whole United States and contaminated much of the United States itself.  Pieces of fuel, which most people weren't aware of, were identified intact in places far away like Norway, for instance, after the disaster.  If you can imagine a chunk of the core from a reactor being found that far away from the initial blast of Unit Three when it detonated in a nuclear, what we call a prompt uncontrolled criticality, a nuclear detonation, when you have something that is that catastrophic, you can imagine the ejective from an explosion like that into the upper atmosphere.  Right now we have a plume of radioactive material that circles the globe about every 44 days.  It comes down wherever it pleases much in the same way that the depleted uranium that we used in the Middle East on Iraq had contaminated the upper atmosphere and continues to contaminate the landmasses of both the North and South hemispheres.  At first scientists thought that we were looking at, at the bare minimum, probably the loss of the Northern Hemisphere of the earth, but there is evidence now that because of the air circulation in both the North and South Hemispheres of the planet that this is a global problem now.  It is not just in the Northern Hemisphere.  So when you think about the gravity of this, and you understand that the dire situation that we face in the future, it is very sobering.
You know I just had a conversation a couple days ago with a coworker.  I had discussed the matter probably about a month earlier very briefly and then because of time constraints we really didn't have much time to get into the discussion further.  Of course with something like this you can imagine how that would impact a person who was unaware as most people are in the United States that there is a looming threat to their health and that the future of all mankind just growing and getting larger like a gigantic shadow getting over everything. 
And I had this recent discussion with a person, as I stated in what I had written to you earlier, the conversation went in the direction of how much time do we have?   I said well, it is hard to really put a number on it.  The best guesstimate that I can come up with because of the rapidity of the death of the Pacific and the effects it has had globally on other parts of the earth relative to how it has affected the landmasses, the absorption of Cesium 134 and Cesium 137 into the food that people ingest, the fact that they are finding tritium in water supplies virtually everywhere, plutonium --any number of different byproducts of this disaster in Japan-- is showing up all over the place.  People are completely oblivious to the fact that they are ingesting it on a daily basis.  Whatever they buy at the store is contaminated with it. [18:58]
I told you on earlier shows that back in my fun truck driving days last year I was scheduled to pick up a load of 38,000 pounds of salmon in Kent, Washington.  It was at a facility that handles a significant amount of Pacific Northwest seafood coming down from Alaska.  The actual manifested loads that we departed the facility with was under 8,000 pounds and the reason for this was the salmon was so riddled with lesions and unsightly sores all over it that they couldn't just possibly just plastic-wrap that stuff and stick it in the box.  They had to rework that salmon and what they had left after they reworked it was significantly less, and that resulted in a dramatic reduction in the load that was originally supposed to be 38,000 pounds of fish.  So if it affected that load so severely, now it is causing a major shortage of viable edible salmon that does not have lesions because it has to be reworked.  You can only imagine in the future once people realize that you could probably take that slab of salmon that you got at a nice price at the store and stick it underneath a Geiger counter and see that you are not getting such a wonderful bargain after all.  And that is the big problem with it is that when they cut away the lesions and the sores from the exposure to radiation, they have done nothing but make poison a lot more palatable.  It would be much more honest if they let the public see exactly what that fish looked like when they take it out of the water. 
And even more local to where I work, actually I am very close to a beach, and they have a warning on a number of different places there because there are a lot of people that go into the ocean there and fish and take the fish out, and they have a warning that they should not harvest any of the fish because of the red tide.  Well, I have seen evidence of the red tide in small pockets along the coastline, I will have to admit that quite frankly.  I have seen that, but in this particular case there is no real evidence to support it, and yet the warnings still stand.
And what they are doing with this, is they are using the red tide excuse not to take the fish out of the water probably as a precautionary measure to keep people from just wholesale pulling up clams and geoducks and all kinds of other things that you pull out of the sea.  Crabs, particularly,  we have Dungeness crabs just up the way not too very far from where I work just a few miles north, and a lot of people now are starting to come to grips with the fact that a lot of these crabs that are in this vicinity are all full of radionuclides, and therefore they might not be such a big deal to get. 
So I personally avoid eating seafood of any type just because I have no way of finding out where it came from just as a precautionary measure because I don't think my body could withstand any more radiation than it has already been exposed to already.
But there are a lot of people out there that love seafood and don't want to give it up.  They like their crab salads.  They like all the different wonderful things from the sea that taste rather yummy but they don’t know that they are actually shortening their lifespans probably and inviting nasty things in their health history in the future, if not their very death brought on by radiation exposure.  So this problem has gotten very, very dire and very severe.  In some particular cases people don't want to talk about it even if they realize that the warnings are correct and there may be something to it.    
There have been good videos, as a matter of fact people in Los Angeles with HEPA filters in their homes, actually taking the dust off their filters, measuring levels in excess of several hundred counts per minute all the way up to 1800 counts per minute, with just the dust off the HEPA filter inside their homes. 
And we have people going into Whole Foods stores in North Carolina, taking their Geiger meters in there, and finding a significant amount of bulk produce and the fish that they find in the store is with a  radiation signature that otherwise probably they would not have.  So you know, what is a safe level?  This is a very big question now.  How much radiation can you ingest?  Well, a lot of people like one particular person, she says that based on her judgment that potato chips with their radiation from potassium that this is significantly more dangerous than seafood you will get out of the Pacific.  I beg to differ with the lady.  I also would argue head-to-head with her counterpart from Woods Hole [Oceanographic Institution], Mr. Buesseler, who seems to think that even though we have an ongoing and growing radionuclide problem coming ashore on the West Coast, it really is no threat to human life.
Every day here in the Pacific Northwest, it alters and changes what you see with the wildlife in the area.  I was just commenting just a couple of days ago while I was driving home from work that I had to look very, very hard to spot even two seagulls in flight.  Normally because I am right on the sea usually you will see groups of them in mud flats, along the shoreline, lots of seabirds, you know cormorants and other birds that fish in the coastal waters.  You'd see tons of birds everywhere and now you have to almost go on a hunt to actually find them.   I was excited when I saw two that were flying around in the general vicinity where I live.  It is so unusual to see such a dearth of birds because clearly these birds, one of the things that they live off of is fish. 
There are photographs of what would normally be a fairly robust reproductive season off Anacapa Island off the coast of California, the beach is completely bereft of anything.  I mean it is dead.  Anyone that takes a good hard look at the impact that we have seen both with how it is completely decimated certain species of fish; sea lions for instance, that otherwise would be hunting and living off [of fish], to the point where now they in desperation on the beach they knaw on rocks and fill their bellies with sand from the beach because they are so starved that they will eat anything trying to fill a void in their stomachs.   When they are found dead they are full of rocks and sand.  It is not because they ingested this post mortem.  They ate it in desperation trying to nourish themselves, they are starving to death. 
You know this is very heartbreaking to see animals in such bad shape.  I have even had the loss of a friend’s pet who was a very large dog, he was quite healthy and robust although he was a few years old.  He was not exactly right on death’s door at the beginning of Fukushima, but he died with cancerous tumors all over his belly because he was the kind of dog that always stayed outside.  That was kind of a heartbreaking  thing to see an animal like that which probably would have gone another four or five years, no sweat, based on his physical condition before Fukushima happened.  And you know animals don't understand that, “No, No, No! You can't go outside!”  “No, you can't lay in that wet pile of leaves!”  “You can't do this, you can’t do that!”  They do what they want if they are left outside and there is no way you are ever going to stop them.  Whatever it took, there is no way you can convince this animal that [if] he was going to hang out in the house it wasn’t going to happen. Unfortunately it cost him his life.  There are no two ways around it. 
Those tumors, the masses that were all over his stomach within 12 months of his initial exposure from Fukushima, came from something more than just laying on the ground.  When you look at the fact that all the seabirds in this area are virtually gone within about a week to 10 days after Fukushima occurred and the plume made landfall here in the form of radioactive rain, it killed so many thousands of birds.  It was like the movie The Birds where you saw all these dead fake birds flopping around all over the place on the ground.  The property that they lived on here was just littered with them like in an instant somebody snapped their fingers, every single bird in the sky dropped dead and landed on the earth, laying with its feet up in the air.  That was very, very odd to see that. 
And the thing that is very odd about these deaths in the Pacific now with the wildlife is that just normal other species predation on the corpses would be evident in some of these dead animals, dead fish and stuff like that, but there is absolutely no sign whatsoever that other species are eating this radiated flesh.  So it means that the animals somehow have a way of knowing that is poison and they are avoiding it. 
But the most dramatic thing, this really breaks my heart to report it, I read an article about in Monterey Bay there was a whale tour, a boat, and they had a bunch of passengers on board because whales had taken up refuge in the bay in unprecedented numbers.  And at one particular point in time one of the whales put its head up on the boat and looked at the people on board the boat as if it was saying “Please help me!  This is serious.  You need to get us out of this!”   And it is arguable if at higher levels of intelligence, whether it is whales or humans. I would have to argue that they are much more intelligent than us even though they can't do writing and they can’t do radio shows.
But this whole entire planet is in dire, deep Kimchi here.  It is astonishing to me that the press, and  in fact the US federal government via the CIA and other tentacles that are wrapped around the microphones are keeping this out of the news, but I think at some point in time what is going to happen is the overwhelming proof of the malfeasance and the incompetence and actually transcendent competence that goes in the direction of malicious intent to suppress the information that the public needs to know about.  Even if there is virtually nothing the public can do about this problem, as is true with the case right now, it is incumbent on the powers that be to at least inform the public that yes, the seafood is full of radiation, our food production capability in the heartland of the United States is compromised, much of our drinking water is now full of tritium and other radionuclides from this disaster, and on top of this we have our own domestic disasters such as WIPP (Waste Isolation Pilot Plant) in Carlsbad, New Mexico where they have lost control of a waste storage facility where plutonium-filled smoke belched out of that area and contaminated the Panhandle of Texas.   I have seen highway signs warning people to get through the area because of the radiation.
I just recently looked at numbers which we recently published in an article that showed that the increases in radiation in the continental United States vary anywhere between 85 and 135 times normal background levels.  I mean this is such unprecedented increases in radioactivity across the board from coast-to-coast in the United States, and I have to say that some of the international data that has come in where people are starting to make measurements in other countries like Spain and France and places far removed from Fukushima, and they are starting to see the effects in radioactivity in their local areas based on what is coming ashore and going around the earth every 44 days, so we are talking about a global problem, not a local problem, not a United States problem, we are talking about an international, all-of-mankind problem.  It is just not going to go away.  [31:32]
Dr. Fetzer:  Well, Dennis, this is just stupefying.  And to think that the governments with all of their vast resources have done nothing to cope with it is to me such another abdication of responsibility toward the people that it constitutes a form of treason.  Whether or not we are all going to die from radioactive contamination, I think they might deserve to be on an expedited time schedule to bring about the termination of their lives through a due process, judicial procedure, that leads to their death by hanging for allowing this to happen to the nation of which they have served as the wayward custodians.  [32:16]
Cimino:   Well the levels of complete hubris beyond all possible imagining and wrongdoing in this country are way off the scale.  I was thinking about it just the other day, that based on all these other events that are taking place with the false flags and other events they are doing, this is a whole other subject matter that we can’t really focus on here without, you know, breaching this one, we have got a big problem with unbelievable corruption globally, it is not just in the United States, it is in France, who helped fabricate this fake Americans save lives on a train from a gunman, which is utter nonsense, the kind of wrongdoing, overreaching, out of control, in your face, we are going to do this and you can't stop us is indicative of mad men.  I mean, you can’t imagine sane human beings with any rational thought processes carrying out serial breaches of common sense and common decency going down a path of intentionally lying to the public trying to force the public to be forced to line up, que up and get vaccinated with materials like squalene and thiomersal which are poisonous neurotoxins which cause a breakdown of immune systems and your neural networking in your body.  I mean the type of things that are going on globally, you add to the whole pile of the Fukushima dilemma, which is unsolvable in my opinion, I could be wrong but we are on the other side of the fence now with Fukushima where there is virtually nothing that can be done about it other than perhaps making provisions for alternative methods of food production, hydroponics if that would be possible.  I would imagine because of the shortages of food that will come to pass once everybody becomes apprised of the fact that most of the food is now irradiated and full of poison and death, desperation will drive people to eat it no matter what, but only the very wealthy will get the food that will be less contaminated probably or bereft of the contamination, and at some particular point in time you have to ask yourself what kind of monsters can walk this earth and set up 8 to 12 billion people with the certainty of absolute total death and destruction as this Fukushima thing does in the future, and still live with themselves.  How can they look themselves in the mirror?  How can they walk amongst us and smile knowing what they have done with their wrongdoing?  I mean to me the whole picture is not just depressing, but it is it is hard to fathom.  I just can't wrap my brain around it.  I am pretty bright and I am able to comprehend a lot of stuff and cope with an awful lot of things but to me I just can’t rationalize the degree of evil that must exist in the hearts of men to do this kind of stuff.  [35:26]
Dr. Fetzer:  It strikes me that it may be the inevitable consequence of the principle enunciated by the economist Milton Friedman, to wit that the only social responsibility of a corporation is to maximize profits for its stockholders which implies regardless of consequences for other the best way to do that clearly is to improve the differential between the price of a product and its costs by minimizing costs, paying the least labor, the fewest benefits, polluting the environment, not cleaning up, creating monopolies and invading taxes.  It seems to me that TEPCO may have been motivated here by the sense of fear that if they were to take measures now it would imply they were liable or responsible for what had happened which of course needless to say was indeed the case but where they were interested in shunting, discarding, denying, deflecting legal responsibility which would have led to incalculable lawsuits against them that would have destroyed the company.  So I wonder Dennis whether it isn’t Milton Friedman, who is an economist who received the Nobel Prize, if you can believe that, who has enunciated this principle which of course violates the role of a corporations as having any necessity to fulfill any social good.  There was a time prior to 1913 when corporations in the United States actually had to demonstrate they were going to make a contribution to the welfare of the public before they could become incorporated, but since that time the situation has transformed dramatically, and now it would appear corporations can be chartered and perform their deeds to benefit their stock holders regardless of the consequences for everyone else, as this case so stunningly, dramatically exemplifies.  [37:31]
Fetzer:  [Long silence].  Dennis, are you there?  Dennis, are you there?  I think we lost him.
[38:15 in]  Dennis?  [38:19 in] Dennis, can you hear me? 
Cimino:  .[38:25 in]..Someone coming through for me...
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Dr.  Fetzer [42:14 in]   This is Jim Fetzer your host on The Real Deal continuing my conversation with Dennis Cimino about Fukushima.  Dennis, before we had the technical interruption, I was explaining that it seemed to me TEPCO might have hesitated taking appropriate actions early on, because they were acting in accordance with the maxim espoused by Milton Friedman, the Nobel Prize-winning economist from the University of Chicago, to wit that the only social obligation of corporations is to maximize profits for their stockholders regardless of the consequences for everyone else.  So if they assume responsibility or take an action they might have made themselves liable to lawsuits that would  have put their company out of business.  So it might be that their commitment to this misconceived principal of Milton Friedman made a contribution here at a crucial juncture, is that possible?
Cimino:  Well, it probably has a lot to do with it, but I didn't know if you were cognizant of the fact that the Central Intelligence Agency sent a team to Japan very shortly after Fukushima had the nuclear detonation.  [Voice becomes electronically garbled].   You would have thought it if there was going to be anybody [43:27 sound cut off]
Dr. Fetzer: [43:33 in]  Are we being compromised? Dennis? We have had interruptions of our conversations many, many times, Chance [Editor’s Note: Chance is the first name of the producer of The Real Deal] in discussing matters of far less moment than this.
Cimino:  [Voice electronically garbled]
Dr. Fetzer:  [43:51 in]  Dennis, you are going to have to recap that, you faded out.  You said that the Central Intelligence Agency sent a team of experts to Fukushima shortly after the disaster began.  Tell us more.  [Continued silence.  44:23 in]  Yes.  [More silence.  44:36 in]  What a bloody shame.  Would it be better if we switched over to the phone, but then we could not see the slides.  [More silence].
Cimino: [45:22 in]  Did we actually get a...
Dr. Fetzer: Dennis.
Cimino:  Can you hear me now?
Dr. Fetzer:  [45:24 in]  Have we got you there? OK. Pick up with the CIA sending a team to Fukushima.
Cimino: He is not moving, but...[more silence]
Dr. Fetzer: [46:01] Dennis, are you there? 
Cimino: [Electronically garbled voice]
Dr. Fetzer:  Dennis, Dennis, go!  Talk about the CIA sending a team to Japan.  [More silence.  46:28 in, talking to the Real Deal show producer].  I think we had better redo it and have him call in on the phone line and I come in on the other line, OK?  [46:36 in]  Yep, yep.  In order to cope with the technical problems we are going to disconnect and reconnect by a different means and see if we can get us a reliable connection with Dennis. I apologize for the problems. They are not entirely unexpected all things considered where Dennis and I have encountered many interruptions in conversations we have had in the past.  We will see what we can do to complete the rest of this program which is of enormous importance as I am sure you can appreciate. This is Jim Fetzer your host on the Real Deal.  We will be right back. [47:12]
Dr. Fetzer:  [47:16 in] Dennis I would like for you to repeat the point you were making.  Pick it up when the CIA sent a team to Japan to check out what was going on.  That seems to me to have been the crucial event in the entire history of Fukushima.
Cimino:  Well, it is problematic for me in a number of different arenas.  First off,  why would Central Intelligence Agency personnel have anything to offer relative to a situation like this?  They have virtually no expertise in amelioration of a nuclear disaster on board.  Their major forte is to destroy governments, duly elected governments, and install puppet governments.  I mean let us be real about who they really are.  They are the shadow government that actually operates the United States. 
So their only possible role in going to Japan would be to compel the Japanese government to pass the laws which they did which effectively put a giant gag order on the Japanese press which made it impossible for the Japanese press to tell the truth about the magnitude of the disaster, post the explosion that occurred in March 2011. 
So, going back to the “why-fors” and the “what-nots”, it is also public knowledge that at the very same time that this was going on and the plume was about ready to make landfall in the United States, that President Soetoro, also known as Barack Obama, jumped in Air Force One and flew to Brazil with virtually no warning whatsover to the Brazilian government to get away from the plume.  So the U.S. Government on the highest levels understood the gravity of the situation and the threat that it posed and they understood it well enough to get in Air Force One and fly out of the plume as it made landfall and effectively started to paint the whole United States in radiation.    
So to me, the fact that the Central Intelligence Agency was the sole number of personnel that was shipped to Japan is very sad and pathetic because we have so much more expertise to lend to it, not to mention the fact that the role of the president if he really were one, which he is not, would be to get on the telephone to many other statesmen and nation leaders across the globe and say “We have a crisis here.  We need to assemble the very best that we can get, probably the Russians for starters, and get a team to Japan to find out how bad it is, and determine what we need to do to arrest this radiation before it becomes a major problem.”
They didn't take that action.  Instead they sent a team of guys whose sole purpose in life was to go over and help the Japanese cover-up the magnitude of the disaster.  So, I mean when you look at the intentional wrongdoing in the very early stages of this you have to ask yourself who really was in charge, and to what benefit would it be to humankind and for that matter the shadow government that operates everything in the United States, known as the Central Intelligence Agency, to intentionally allow something this horrible to play itself out to the degree that it has now four years later to the point where you really can’t shut it off.  I mean to me it is unfathomable that is the role that the United States played, and instead of doing the right thing, getting experts over there to help the Japanese, we did precisely the wrong thing.  [50:57]
I think hanging it all on TEPCO [Tokyo Electric Power Company], which I would be happy to do if they were really fully culpable, is probably the wrong path.  The real blame should be placed squarely on the forehead of Jeffrey Immelt from General Electric.  They knew that the Mark I reactor was a seriously flawed design.  We have twenty seven of them in the United States currently in operation.  All are ticking time bombs, not to mention the fact that we had a situation with the San Onofre nuclear power station in San Diego not too terribly unlike what took place in Japan, notwithstanding the fact that we did not have a massive breach of plumbing, but we did have a condenser that started to leak huge amounts of radioactive water that ultimately led to the closure and decommissioning of the plant because there was virtually nothing that they could do to fix it.  When they put in an untested, unqualified design by Mitsubishi, I believe the company was, that designed the heat exchanger that they installed, it ultimately went into failure.  Currently right now we have a significant amount of radiation off the coast of California from the San Onofre Nuclear Power Station itself.  We have had the same going on with WIPP [Waste Isolation Pilot Plant] out in Carlsbad [New Mexico].  We have any number of power plants in the United States, including one just about a month ago that suffered a major fire and explosion and released radionuclide-rich contaminated steam and then everybody pooh-poohed it and said it was not a big problem.   [52:30]
Right now the levels of radiation in the United States are very serious problem.  I don't know why they are allowing us to go up and up and up when the end result is that not only us, you and me and everybody else, the working proletariat out here busting our asses trying to make a living, are certainly going to be afflicted by it.  But even the wealthy, even the highest [net worth], the 1% of the 1% out there, they are going to be seriously impacted by this.   I just don't see how they can receive it.  So to me the big question comes to mind: “To whose good end would you allow such a disaster to unfold like this and not be at least arrested at some point where you can say “You know what, we have turned the tide, we have shut off the leak.’”
Right now the situation in Japan is getting worse by the day.  Nothing is being done to stop it.   The death toll of all species in the Pacific and all the world’s oceans that are connected to the Pacific will increase and increase and increase and the food contamination in the United States will go up and up and up. 
To me it is so unbelievable that it is almost like a horror movie, it is a bad dream, at some point you are going to wake up and everything is going to be hunky-dory and everything is going to be fine, but it is not.  We live in a world now where we have got, but I have to say point-blank, utter complete total madmen at the helm that can consciously make the decision to consign 8 to 12 billion people to certain death by their inaction. 
And I am going to lay this at every leader of the free world that has the capability to get a team of experts to Japan to assess the situation.  Even today, as serious as it is, there may be a tiny shred of hope that they could at least start to rope it in.  There is absolutely no effort going in that direction and some people have actually made the statement that they believe to the best of their knowledge this is all a gigantic psychological operation.  Well, there may be a significant bit of truth to it, not to say that it is artificial, because I don't believe that my Geiger meter lies to me.  It tells me the truth.  There's no way that they impact that with their lies and their BS.  It measures reality whether I like it or not. 
And the levels that my meter have seen since 2012 here in the Pacific Northwest are withering levels of radiation.  I want to remind the public that this is not a pipe dream.  This is not me wishing it to be in existence, this is a stated fact.   I don't believe that the powers that be have the capability to make a psychological operation into reality.  What they can do, this is totally plausible, is to misuse the disaster that Fukushima is, as a form of subjugation of the human race.  And the way I state this is that once everybody finally gets a clue about how severe this is, and how hopeless it is, at that particular point in time instead of people rioting and becoming lawless, I do believe that there is evidence to support the fact that people will just roll over and say, “That's it, there is no point in resisting any further, we are dead men anyway.”
I do believe that there is probably some truth to the fact that the US Government and European governments are collusion, in conspiracy to withhold critical information about the magnitude of this disaster strictly because they know at some point in time they won’t be able to cover it up any longer once the public becomes aware of it.  In all likelihood it will cause massive panic globally to the extent that you can forget about governments.  That is going to be gone.  You can forget about the fabric of society.  That will be rended and torn.  You can forget about law and order, and that is precisely what certain elements on the earth want.  They want pandemonium.  They want mass death.  They want a way to make profits because I think somehow or another they think they can cheat death ultimately.  And I don't believe that is really going to happen.  [57:10]  
Dr. Fetzer:  Dennis, the circumstances that you are describing are precisely the worst possible case for disarming the American people.  If there is no government, no law and order, how can any citizens support or defend themselves if they are defenseless against armed marauding bands that are going to be looting and pillaging and raping.   I mean the idea that Obama is behind a gun-control scam and this United Nations treaty to confiscate weapons is unbelievable at this point in time.  It is further compounding a situation where that is going to be absolutely a massacre of people.  An absolute massacre.  I can't believe it.  [57:53]
Cimino:  Well I think their intent globally, based on the actions of the French recently in upholding the hoaxes that they ran on the train and the Charlie Hebdo hoax, and these world governments, including the Germans supporting this kind of monkey business with reality, their ultimate goal obviously is to keep the sheeple and the ignorant masses completely in the dark until [there is] inescapable reality.   At some point in time it will be, and at that particular point in time, Katy bar the door!  Governments won’t have any control.  It won't matter how many troops they put on the streets.  There will not be any controlling it.  So that is why this United Nations, which is effectively world Zionism on steroids, an organization wanting to disarm the planet because the powers that be suddenly see a maximum threat of 8 to 12 billion people that were pissed off because they realize that they have been egregiously screwed.  And that is effectively what is going to take place once the cat gets out of the bag about the magnitude of this disaster. 
So I am going to propose here that I think these governments at this particular point in time are going to do everything in their power willy-nilly to support these projects on different hoaxes.  The tempo and the rapidity of them in the United States will only increase.  That means that Europe will follow suit.  Initiatives will be taken by multiple governments to disarm people that have armaments. 
And at some point in time these names and miscreants that are in charge across the world under the control of the Rothschilds out of London, at some point in time they believe that they will be able to ride the storm out, but the real problem with that is this storm is a terminal storm.  This storm is not one that is going to be a “morning after.”  This storm is so grave and so serious that on the other side of it there will be just silence because virtually everything will be dead except probably a few small species of things such as the black mold or fungus that overtook Tokyo in the aftermath of the disaster.  There are some species that love radiation that convert it into nutrition and incorporate it and take advantage of it. 
I find that by and large the destruction of the very phytoplankton that generate the earth's oxygen that we breathe is a serious matter. Anybody who thinks that just the fact that the whales and the sea lions and the salmon and virtually all the other fish species are dying, is the end of it, they are deluding themselves.  That is not the end of it.  The total death of the ocean means everything is going to be in very dire straits when it can’t breathe.
So I have a real problem with trying to wrap my mind around who and where and what logic processes are involved in thinking that disarmament will be the answer, when in fact, ultimately on the other side of that, everyone will die.  I mean, to what good end will there be any particular good point in disarming the populations of all these nations of people that still have firearms.   I don't get the logic.  To me, it's like you completely alluded to the fact that at the end of the movie that is the end. I mean, it's a black screen after that, and these world leaders apparently if they are cognizant of the degree of danger that the whole entire planet faces at the hands of crazy maniacs that are doing nothing to ameliorate this problem at the end, [and get] a grip on the reality of what we all face, I can tell them to get a clue about what radiation does because there is no solution.  There is no short-term 20 or 30 year plan that is going to buy us more time as a species.  There is nothing.  The time for action was 3 1/2 years ago, and you have run the clock out.  So now the best that these monsters can do I think is try to hold on to control as best as they can as the control slips away.  And that may be ultimately the only plan that they have got. 
And I don't think that it's just basic incompetence that caused these people to make the mistakes, and the tactical errors that they did, to allow this to get so out of control like this.  I think that to some degree there was intent on some level, on multiple government levels to terminate life on this planet.  And to me, I don’t know how they can look at their children and their grandchildren, in the face of babies and animals, and understand what they have consigned humankind to. 
This situation transcends virtually everything that has befallen this planet.  Two global wars and the threat of a thermonuclear war has nothing on what is going on right now, really. 
And the gravity of the situation is so dire and so grave at this point in time that I think right now that what we're seeing is these governments are in acts of desperation in trying to disarm the populations with this United Nations global treaty. That is the only thing that I can come up with.  I mean nothing else computes.  If somebody has a Cray Y-MP 8 [supercomputer] that can come up with a better plan as to why they're doing this please let me know.  It is absolutely absurd.  [1:03:47]
Dr. Fetzer:   I want you to repeat that perverted rationale Dennis because it has to sink in.  Why in God's name would they be taking away our weapons at a time when law and order are on the verge of collapse because of an uncontrollable calamity that is affecting the future of mankind permanently?
Camino:   I think to them they understand that their control also slips away.  Even though they haven't tended to maintain control, they know that at some point in time they lose that control and that they cannot ever regain it.  And then when they have lost control, well then what else have they got to live for?  I mean these guys, they were driven by unbelievable hubris and greed, and to put it in layman's terms, they are control freaks.  The sad fact of life is that when they have completely lost all hope of maintaining control, what is left? 
And I'm going to propose a very sad thing to you, is that these guys will stop at nothing to have the last word.  I think that is the kind of mentality that we are dealing with here.  These people are so twisted and so warped and so delusionally sick that to them termination of all life on the planet is them having the last word.  And I think that it is off the scope for me.  I mean, I can't even, you know, I am a good person as far as being able to look at things and going, “Yep, that is 8.7, or whatever.”   But I can’t even put a number on this.  This is hubris and banality beyond anything I could have ever thought I was going to have to comprehend as a human being.  And yet I'm looking at it right in the eye. 
And the sad thing is that many, many sane world leaders are probably doing exactly the same thing and going “What have we done?  Where have we taken mankind?”  What are we doing to so sacrifice an entire planet, 8 to 12 billion human beings and all life on this ball, just to make a point, to me the height of hubris --or the depths of depravity-- whatever you want to put it.  And I just can't fathom it.  That apparently is where they are at.   And I don’t know of a better way to sum it up. [1:06:21]
Dr. Fetzer:  But what point do they thereby think they are making?  I mean, the last word I guess. Go ahead.
Cimino:   Yes, it is the last word, that they all have the last word.  But yes we did this, and that is the way it is.  
Dr. Fetzer:  How meaningless when we are all dead!
Cimino:  Of course.
Dr. Fetzer:  When we are dead, our children are dead, and when our grandchildren are dead, when all forms of life on earth are dead, what sense of accomplishment will they have then?
Camino:  That to me is the eternal burning question that we will have to live with for the days that we have left.  Because to me right now I am looking at nothing but unprecedented levels of hubris and greed and incompetence and malfeasance beyond anything I ever thought I would ever encounter as a human being in my lifetime.
And I know that there are many people, including probably people who are very brilliant like Stephen Hawking,  must be completely aware of the situation and looking at this and going, “My God! What have you done?  What have you allowed to happen?” 
I am not saying that there's any guarantee in the universe.  That humanity has a right to exist into eternity.  That is a preposterous notion.  But why stifle any possible future?  Why completely shut the lights out after millions of years of evolution or in this particular case, de-evolution to finally say, :”You know what, we are going to have the last word.” I mean, I can't wrap my mind around the -- what good comes of it?  I mean,  there's no,  I mean, having the last word is wonderful,  there are a lot of people that they live for that.  That is all they seek.  But they had the control right up to the very end, and then that was it, that was lights out.   But to me it is very clearly apparent to me that all of the Western world governments, with very minor exceptions to the rule, are hell-bent for leather to pursue this over the cliff .  And to me that is unbelievable.  I can't wrap my mind around  it. 
Dr. Fetzer:  Is this in any way shape or form a variation on the Samson Option where the Israelis have declared their intention if Israel’s existence is threatened they are going to bring the rest of the world down with them?  [1:08:46]
Cimino:  Well when you look at how the “tribe think” is with these Khazars, it very well fits into how they think.  In other words, their attitude is “If we can’t have all of it, then you won’t have any of it.”  And I have repeated the same over and over again to people and they just don’t get it.  But that is how they think.  That is what is inside their hearts.  That is why they are so dangerous because when you have people who think like that they are such sociopaths that they have absolutely no intent to fulfill any kind of compact with the rest of mankind [such as] “So you know what, I will agree to let you be.  I will agree to let you live in peace. I will agree to let you exist in peace.”  They won't rest until we are all dead.  That is where these people’s heads and hearts are.   If they can’t have total control of everything including every cent that we make, every viable asset that we can possibly attain, if they can’t have all of that, then we will have none of it.  And that is where I think they are really at.  That is the only explanation I can come up with as to why these governments would allow this situation to get so out of hand and so incomprehensibly dire that there is absolutely no way out of this box.  [1:10:28]
Dr. Fetzer:  [A long pause].  This is just stunning, Dennis.  It is just stunning.   I think we have reached the end in probably the maximal understanding we will ever possess about the sequence of events, but for the sake of concluding our conversation, we have a set of slides here.   We have been looking at a floating dead man for close to an hour Dennis and I think very appropriately, iconically representing the future of mankind which appears to be death.  Would you like to carry us forward, slide by slide, through the set that we have here? 
Cimino:  Sure, the next one would be the Whole Foods [Market] in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, done on Monday, May 14, 2012, where they went into the store.  The video on YouTube, I am sure it is probably still posted unless it has been removed.  It basically shows people going through different types of food, produce, fish and stuff and taking measurements.
Dr. Fetzer:  With Geiger counters?  They are going through with Geiger counters, Dennis?  [1:11:43]
Cimino:  That is right.
Dr. Fetzer:  In Chapel Hill.   I taught in Chapel Hill.  I taught for a year in Chapel Hill.  Tell us.
Cimino:  I am very familiar with that community.  I can't visualize the Whole Foods store in Chapel Hill, but I know exactly the place looks like.
Fetzer:  It is a wonderful community, wonderful, vibrant, intellectual, well-to-do, very socially conscious.
Camino:  Yes, and conscious enough to where they actually take their Geiger meter into a food store to measure how irradiated the food is.
Dr. Fetzer:  And what was the outcome Dennis?  What was the outcome?
Cimino: I would compel people to go seek this video out and watch it with their own two eyeballs, because it is chilling, as are some of the other videos where another gentleman opens up many cans of tuna with a Geiger counter and makes measurements of canned tuna with his meter and those measurements are astonishing.  [Ed. Note:  See for example “Whole Foods Market Geiger Check, Chapel Hill, NC, Mon May 14, 2012” (YouTube 9:35) uploaded Steve Traverse, May 21, 2012].  And I can go on and on.about cans of tuna --..
Dr. Fetzer: I have cans of tuna in the pantry in my kitchen.  And I had a can of tuna within the last two weeks and you are telling me that I am thereby irradiating myself in all probability, right?  [1:12:57] Cimino:  It probably depends on when the tuna was put in the can.  But if it has been since 2011 you probably are not doing yourself any big favors.  But the way I see it at this particular point in time, I don't know what is the point in prolonging --I am not trying to say that everyone should march over the cliff right now like a lemming, I am just saying that at this particular point in time with so much widespread radiation and so much of our food supply and our water supply [contaminated], avoiding a few microsieverts of radiation in your tuna, you are going to get it in your eggs and your poultry and you are going to get it probably in any number of foods that are growing in the state of California, probably in the Midwest.   
I mean there is virtually no food stuffs [that has escaped contamination].  When I took my meter to the stores here locally to make measurements with the meter in silence mode where it absolutely just flashed a light and had the digital reading, but did not alert the rest of the people in the store that I was making a measurement, I was astonished how much food such as dairy products, probably full of Cesium 137 and 134, raised the level on my meter by 60 to 80 counts per minute while I was in the store.  Same went for produce, same difference.  
And I mentioned on another radio show where sitting at the Veterans [Administration] facility not very far from where I live, I had the meter sitting next to the tray full of food and then it didn't occur to me that maybe the radiation could have been coming from the plates themselves because anybody that knows anything about different types of pottery and china also knows that radioactive glazes were used, so you can’t count that out, but once it was determined that the food itself was the purveyor of the radiation reading and not the china, we looked at it, and then we ate it, because our  attitude was “What difference does it make at this point?”  
I mean, I'm not saying that you will intentionally eat something that is going to kill you immediately, that when you think about the fact that given the kind of future that we are facing and the degradation and hopelessness that comes when you are bed-ridden and in agony as your internal organs are shutting down, I do not have any particular reason why you would want to prolong life in that situation.
And I'm not trying to say that people who have deep religious beliefs that life is meaningless.  That's not true.  Every life matters and we all probably in one way or another had a real purpose here whether we like  to believe it or not.  But that purpose wasn’t to die in agony, writhing around in a hospital bed for our end game.  So I don't really see any particular reason why a few grams of tuna, with Cesium 134 or 137 in it, is any more dangerous or lethal than your drinking water probably is [short interruption of noise on the line] just like all the other food that we eat. 
So in the long term the bioaccumulation in our tissues of radiation through what we ingest probably will take a toll on us.  But the more serious thing is as these aggregate levels across the board increase around us, we have a lot more to fear than mere ingesting of food of water.   We have environmental issues now where radiation levels are rising rapidly where right now the Environmental Protection Agency is seeking to make rules and regulations that allow them to raise the allowable radiation in the environment by factor of 10 if not more.  And by what reason?  For what reason other than obfuscation of what is going and keeping the public totally in the dark about the threat.  Until everybody starts to grow a third eye or another limb off their body they will be completely fooled about what the government is trying to tell us by their action?  Apparently so. 
But going back to the food stuff thing, it shocked me when I found with my own meter to the point where  I no longer take the meter to the store, because as I might have told you before, the particular cheese that I like to eat and the particular type of ginger ale that I like to drink had radiation in it.  I do not believe that it was probably that high before Fukushima occurred, but it is moderately high now where the meter reacts to it. 
And I am not operating a $25,000 scintillometer. I am operating a Geiger meter.  Do the real problem with the situation across the board all over this planet is people are walking in a minefield.  They are being exposed to any number of hazards and one of them increasing by the day is the radiation level in their environment in their food and their water that they drink and they bath in and the air that they breathe.  
I mean, Arnie Gundersen came to Seattle not too long after the Fukushima Daiichi plant exploded, Unit Number Three detonated, and looked at levels of material that was trapped in filters and had made the assessment that on any given day anybody in the Pacific Northwest was breathing in anywhere between eight and twelve hot particles from Fukushima on any given day.  And for this stuff to be lodged in your lung tissue, it is like a little bomb continuing to radiate destruction into the cells.   If you have  ever seen slices of human lung from people that worked at Hanford who had been breathing plutonium, you will see exactly what beta radiation and alpha radiation does to lung tissue.   I am not talking about gamma being the only deadly type of radiation.  Insidiously enough, all forms of radiation are problematic for humans and animals.  So I do  not see any particular reason why you would be saving yourself a whole lot of grief by not eating the tuna.  Go ahead and eat that tuna because--[1:19:31]  
Dr. Fetzer:   Are you still drinking the ginger ale and eating your favorite cheese? 
Cimino:  If I go to the store, I won’t turn my nose up at them.  In other words, periodically since I last made that comment to you, yes I have purchased it and drank the ginger ale and ate the cheese, because, not that I'm desperate and that is the only choice that I have, but my attitude is rather I am very sanguine about what has befallen not just myself but everybody around me that are apparently unaware of the hazards. I mean I have no thyroid gland because of my exposure to radiation while I served in the Navy.  And that is my own problem, and I have lived with this for more than three decades now.   But the average person that is facing the loss of their thyroid gland, [whether it] means an adult in our age range or whether they are a young child that is just growing up and is being threatened with thyroid cancer and other forms of cancer, these things are going to become much more apparent and become more every day as well as the other thing that has been happening quite frequently to  people with sudden cardiac failure because of the uptake of Cesium 137 into their heart muscles.  Because the heart sees it as potassium,  doesn't know the difference, and incorporates it into the muscle tissue and it is absolutely problematic, if not lethal, after the concentration gets to a certain point.  And younger and younger people are dropping dead in different places where they had no history of cardiac problems, high blood pressure, or anything that would put them on the charts, and yet they're laying on a slab. 
And I'm not saying it is absolutely conclusive that Fukushima radiation did it, but it wouldn't surprise me if a postmortem examination of that person's heart did not reflect their uptake of Cesium 134 and 137 was abnormally high as with other radionuclides from this disaster.  And that is the other part of the problem that I have with this, is that at some point in time none of us has the ability to protect ourselves from the onslaught of the radiation.  There's nothing we can do. 
Every time you get on board a flight to go anywhere for any length of time in the upper atmosphere you’re breathing very hot particles from Fukushima that are in the upper atmosphere of this planet and flight crews are paying a price for their daily exposure and people have taken Geiger meters up into the aircraft with sensitive pancake- shaped sensors on them, and they measured unbelievably high levels that prior to Fukushima were unheard of in airline cockpits.  [Ed. Note: As one example, please see theNUKED IN THE SKIES: Celebrity Sickness and Flying” interview with Leuren Moret hosted by Christina Consolo on Nuked Radio, April 18, 2018].
And I can't absolutely positively pin it on Fukushima, but what else could it be unless we have another massive radiation leak on the planet that nobody is talking about that is in the upper atmosphere.  So yes, you can say Fukushima is a big problem and it is probably going to end all life on the planet, but on the other hand we have WIPP in Carlsbad, New Mexico.  We have many nuclear power plants that are routinely leaking radiation into the environment.  We have crazy maniacs who want to put storage facilities for spent radioactive fuel right on the shores of the Great Lakes of the United States and Canada.  I don't know how much more crazy it can get but they're trying to do this now.  It is sort of like total utter disregard for common sense and safety.  I mean you wouldn't walk into a gasoline farm with a lit cigarette and a lighter in your hand, but these guys are doing worse than this.  They are walking in with a damn road flare in their hand for goodness sake in comparison.  And going back to the main point that I was trying to make about the foodstuffs, at some particular point in time whether they make Geiger meters illegal [along], with the [rising] deaths in this country or not, more and more people will buy them because they are moderately inexpensive relative to other pieces of equipment people own, and  if your goal to try and dodge the minefield a little bit I would tell people get one so that when you inadvertently end up in a zone that's unbelievably radioactive you get out of it.  And when you find food that is unbelievably radioactive you probably don't want to ingest it unless you have a death wish.  And I would like to not believe most of us are wired like that.  But to be quite frank about it--[1:24:49]
Dr. Fetzer:  Dennis, is there any way --
Cimino:  Go ahead
Dr. Fetzer: No, you continue.  To be frank about it --.
Cimino:  To be quite frank about it, I just don't think the average person really has the awareness -- it is sort of like the way I saw it, the American public and the European public are kind of like amoeba in  a petri dish unaware that a hot scalpel is about to smite them.  And the hot burning sensation of the scalpel coming down into the growth medium and killing them instantly,  they are completely unaware of it.  And perhaps that is just as well that they are completely oblivious to the threat, but in time I think they will become aware.  And when that awakening happens --there was a Moody Blues song that I was thinking about the lyrics after many, many years of not hearing it.  And it was astonishing how it became very, very relevant to today’s world.  And I am not going to share it with you, but many, many people probaby are aware exactly what song that is.
[Editor’s Note: A good guess is “Late Lament” from “The Days of Future Passed” Album, which went as follows:]

Breathe deep the gathering gloom
Watch lights fade from every room
Bedsitter people look back and lament
Another day's useless energy spent

Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
Lonely man cries for love and has none
New mother picks up and suckles her son
Senior citizens wish they were young

Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
Removes the colours from our sight
Red is grey and yellow, white
But we decide which is right
And which is an illusion

It is astonishing how in my lifetime we have made this transition from the 1960s where there was some hope, and we had some of our leaders trying to steer the nation into a rational, sane direction and they were all murdered by the Central Intelligence Agency ostensibly, and our own government.  And now we have taken a different path and now we are facing extinction as a species at the hands of crazy maniacs that like to paint people that perceive the threat as a threat.  The people that are conspiracy theorists are as dangerous as a lone wolf who, they come to a press conference and open fire on a reporter.  I mean these guys, they know no level that they won’t stoop to, to terrify and control the rest of us.  And that is probably worse than the radiation damage in the aggregate, what these people do relative to the insane criminal control and subjugation of the human species as it marches to its death,  I mean if most people understood that this is a terminal ride we are on -- when we came out of the womb we all knew we were going to die at some point if you were in touch with your own mortality --the species, we did not come out of the womb and go “Oh my God, in 40 or 50 or 60 years it is wiped out for everyone.”
And today when I see women that are pregnant or women pushing a baby stroller or a couple with a small infant, it takes every bit of my self control not to piteously weep when I see that, because it is hard to handle it-- [1:27:52]
Dr. Fetzer: Yes
Cimino:  -- Knowing the kinds of monsters that we have on this earth that have allowed this to come to where we are.  So when I see these pictures like we have in this presentation of dollies with emaciated sea lion pups which starved to death, and deformed daisies, clearly happy looking, it looks like a smiling face and goofy stuff like that, when it is pointedly another matter altogether, all of these are indicators that humankind is quite off of the track, quite a ways off the reservation.  And maybe in the grand scheme of things, if you want to look at things from a Nietzsche type of analysis, maybe human beings deserve to become extinct.   If we are indeed amoebae in a petri dish unaware that the scalpel is going to smite us, as many are, and with all of these signs, these red flashing, blinking, blazing “Danger! Danger! Danger!  signs all around us, people totally unaware that we are on the brink, that is the saddest part. 
    And that to me, in some way when I think about my own mortality, it there is any spiritual awareness on the other side of this, I hope that we see into it on the other side to muse about how an entire species terminated itself because it was nothing more than a bunch of amoebae in a petri dish completely unaware that it was in such grave danger. 
     Going back to the slide show here, these pictures of the bear and the sea lion, and how the radiation comes from Fukushima into the sea and the atmosphere, we have an animated .gif file of sea lions having seizures. 
     The other heartbreaker, the American symbol, the bald Eagle, many of them were,  last year they were taken into raptor centers and found to be having seizures from their exposure to radiation.  Nobody knew what it was.  Now the scientists will just admit that they have been exposed to a warm blob or an obtuse statement of “Oh no, they have ingested demoic acid in the ocean, and that is why they are having seizures.”   I mean they have done everything but do the George W. Bush thing where he looks underneath the tables and chairs looking for the weapons of mass destruction that never existed.  It was a very low form of humor.  They are doing the same kind of shtick at podiums telling people that this is not a threat.  They don't know what's causing these deaths.  On another level you can bet your bottom dollar these scientists are making measurements of these dead tissues from these animals and seeing absolutely mind blowing concentrations of radionuclides in their tissues.  And if that red light isn't flashing in every one of these guys’ brains --Ken Buessler, you should be ashamed of yourself --  Mark Hatcher (spelling?), you should be ashamed of yourself making that public statement that potato chips are more dangerous than radiation from the sea from Fukushima.  Or Ken with his, “Oh well, we have got radiation leaks, eight becquerels per cubic meter in the sea but that is nothing to worry about because it really is not a threat.”
     I do not know how to tell you that is like watching a person march in front of a speeding bus and not doing everything you can to protect him from being smashed to bits by it.  These people are criminal in what they say and do.   But I think on a different scale all of these people, all of these mouth pieces for the Central Intelligence Agency and the governments have now come to the conclusion that they are going to take to task and be quiet about the real threat.  And I think that is why they lie to us openly about the degree of this threat and tell people it is demoic acid.   Oh, it is a warm blob, it is a thermal this.  Come on, ladies and gentlemen.  You’re liars.  You are criminally insane to be putting out bullshit like that.  It is wrong.  It is immoral.  And I hope someday when your time comes when you will be judged for what you have done, because it is not right to lead a whole entire planet over the cliff like you have with this disaster.   I think that in the end once everybody gets a clue, the one thing that I do hope for mankind as a whole, is a chance there's enough decency in the end game when people are dying from this to have the common decency to help each other in every way they can in their final moments, and to be kind to the people that they otherwise would step over to get to that next dollar, because the next dollar is irrelevant at this point.  That McMansion that you own is irrelevant at this point.  That brand-new car you bought is irrelevant at this point.   Your grandchildren are irrelevant at this point.   It is all going to end because of your hubris and your greed and your amoeba-like disinterest in reality.  I hate to pronounce that on humankind, but that is exactly where I stand.  [1:33:37]
Dr. Fetzer  Well, for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, Dennis, it is just unbelievably appalling, the truths that we confront here over Fukushima.  It is beyond the imagination and the moral culpability of those who contributed to this disaster is beyond unspeakable. 
Cimino:  Every day I spend at least some time in my vehicle as I drive down the road asking myself how monsters like this can walk amongst us and I can't get it.   I mean, I am a very bright and intelligent person.  I am not patting myself on the back, I'm just making a statement that I am very cognitive and very perceptive.  And to me it does not compute that we can have such evil nasty monsters amongst us that will jump on a four engine jet with fifty other bastards and fly to Brazil for an escape from death that they have allowed the rest of the nation to be exposed to.  You have to be a really low form of slime to pull that one off.  And you have to be an even lower form of slime to synthesize the killing of children, to run these hoaxes to get guns, because in the end the only thing you fear is having lost control.  Because you know you will be hanged, you will be shot, you will be beaten to death, you will be drawn and quartered --any number of things will befall these scum when humanity finally realizes that they been led over the cliff by monsters. 
     And I don't know what the end will play out like but you can rest assured that what happened to Benito Mussolini and Clara Petacci will be just the icing on the cake compared to what some of these other scum will get when their time comes. 
     And I don't think that's the right way to deal with them, because you can’t kill them 12 billion times or 8 billion times.  You can’t do that.  They only die once.  The death and destruction that these monsters have wrought on an entire species on an entire planet is so incomprehensible that I don't think that any law anywhere in the universe covers the magnitude of their crimes. [1:35:09]
Dr. Fetzer  It is appalling, Dennis, beyond words. 
Cimino:  The best we can do I think in the end is to be more humane towards each other and act like decent human beings as we go to our deaths.   And that is not saying that you throw up your hands and give up or that you completely lose sight of any hope, as some people would think that I am telling people to do.  All of us must have some hope.  But I think that in reality, in my own eyes I have seen that light, that small flickering flame, be extinguished.  And that is not making me feel suicidal or sad or heartbroken.  I can't even describe to the average person out there what I feel like being aware of what is happening to all of us, because like I said every time I see a small child or a mother or a family, young parents with their children, or wildlife for that matter, just a few months ago I was watching some geese that were goslings on the beach of a small lake nearby, I looked at that and it took all of myself to call out and put my head in my hands and just cried.  And I am not known to do that.   It only happens to me a few times over extreme grief over the loss of loved ones or things like that.  I am a rational and sane person, but when I see where we are going, and see how few people are aware of the fact they have been sold completely up the river by evil, demonic, demented, crazed maniacs who are completely guileless [Ed. Note: guileful] and inveterate liars, I don’t know, I can’t wrap my brain around it. 
     And for the closing statement here before I get off the air, I would like to compel everybody to do your own research and get a clue about what happened in March of 2011 in Japan and come to understand what it is doing to the Pacific every single day, what it is doing to the radiation level of the country that you live in, and what it is doing to the wildlife around you, and more importantly go to the beach and take a look at how decimated the normal life level on the beaches is.  The birds, the fish, and the rivers, if that doesn't wake you up and snap you out of that trance you are in, I don't know what will.  I compel everybody to get a clue because the time that we do have left, we have an obligation unto each other to make it quality time in the sense that we throw out these bastards and hang them if necessary in the time that we have left, so that humanity, as it goes to its extinction, at least has a modicum of humanity left in it where it is not that brainless amoeba in the Petri dish completely unaware.  We are better than that.  I would like to believe that.  And if I am wrong, maybe these words will echo into infinity in a vacuum and space if it were ever broadcast on the air.
    Tragically enough, it is hard to fathom the fact that 12 billion people have been consigned to certain,  total destruction by a small group of greedy, crazed maniacs that only think about themselves and have absolutely no concern for anybody else’s well-being.  And that to me is just unbelievable.  
     So for the closing I compel you all to have a much better day of it.  Get educated.  Knowledge is power.  It will allow you to make better decisions in the time that you have left.  But it is time to get our house in order because our lights are going to go out in the future.   I am not saying that it is absolutely certain that we are all going to be dead in 20 years, but let us put it this way, if anybody is left standing in 30 years, it will be astonishing.  So we don’t have much time.  We desperately need to do our best to help our fellow man and do what we can to help the animals that we have so afflicted with the fate that they have no control over. 
     And if I were that captain of that boat in Monterrey Bay that saw that whale put its head on that boat, I think that I would have had to have lost it.  I would have had to have lost it in front of the whole crew and the passengers to see that, because that was an act of desperation by an animal much brighter and more intelligent than any human that walks this planet.  And that animal was saying “Get me out of this nightmare you have put around me.”  And that is an indictment.  And I don’t know what the next penalty is, but I  think we are going to see it in 30 years.  And that is about all I have to say.
Dr. Fetzer:  Well Dennis, you are one of the best friends, the best minds, the best intellects, the best character, of anyone I have known in my life and I cannot tell you how profoundly grateful I am for your displaying all of your virtues here today.  This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal, thanking my very special guest Dennis Cimino for being here and all of you for listening.  [1:41:54]



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