Note: This transcript is provided
by William B. Fox, Publisher, America First Books.
It is reasonably but not totally accurate for
false flag research purposes.
Alfred Webre: This
is Vancouver Coop radio, CFRO 102.7 FM, www.coopradio.org.
On the Internet, this is the Monday brown bagger. I am Alfred
Webre, and today we have a special guest, Leuren Moret who
has been an expert witness at the Tokyo International Tribunal
for war crimes in Afghanistan as well as a speaker at the Kuala
Lumpur War Crimes Conference, and is now an expert witness on
depleted uranium issues for a member of the Canadian Parliament.
And today we will be speaking about some recent research that
Leuren has done in the area of mind control and electronic harassment.
Leuren Moret: Thank you very much Alfred. It
is always a pleasure to be on your program and to have
the privilege of being on coop radio.
Webre: One of the concepts that we were exploring
was that the development of the technology of mind control actually
goes back in one significant program to the 70's, to a secret
arrangement between the United States and the then Soviet Union.
I wondered if you could tell us about that.
L. Moret: Yes, following World War II the ruling
elite or the shadow government in the United States wanted to
pursue a program to develop mind control because they believed
that American servicemen who had been prisoners of war in, for
instance, in China and other Asian countries, had returned as
sort of mind-controlled victims or zombies. So John Foster Dulles
and Allen Dulles actually set up the CIA in the late 1940s for
the purpose of developing mind control programs. They did not
exactly know what the Asians had done, but they wanted to have
that ability themselves. And in the 1950's several projects
were set up. Project
ARTICHOKE and I think Project
Bluebird. These were the precursors of the MKULTRA
Program. And they were brought under the umbrella of MKULTRA
when it was started in, I guess, the mid-1950's. I didn't know
anything about it. I had sort of heard about MKULTRA but I really
didn't know anything about it until a Project ARTICHOKE victim
approached me and asked me to help him write a book. And I said,
"Well, why don't you bring all your documentation and your
diaries and photos and whatever you have over to my house and
I will look at it, and if it checks out, then of course I will
help you. So I began to learn about MKULTRA. But before that,
I am a nuclear weapons lab whistle-blower at the Livermore Lab
and I am a geoscientist, so from about the year 2000 I began
working 18 hours a day on radiation issues as a result of visiting
the Hiroshima and Nagasaki museums and beginning to understand
how horrific nuclear weapons are. And I had worked as a staff
scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley Lab when it was still conducting
nuclear weapons research, although I was studying volcanoes.
And then later on in 1989 I was hired at the Lawrence Livermore
Lab and worked there two years and just quit in utter disgust
over the science fraud and contractor [dishonesty] and all kinds
of corruption. And little did I know that actually Livermore
had a very important part to play in MKULTRA. That is where
the software was developed for the global mind-control project
for which George Herbert Walker Bush was the chief architect
and CEO beginning when he was in the CIA. He was probably recruited
when he was at Yale in Skull and Bones. He was certainly very
early taken into the CIA, and a very important operative. A
very nasty one too. So the software for mind-control was developed
through MKULTRA. There was a monkey colony at UC Davis when
I was an undergraduate there in the 60's and I always wondered
what it was for. I heard stories from room mates and other people
who worked there and they described this very large colony of
monkeys that was off the campus and very isolated. Nobody was
allowed over there, but people who worked there and took care
of these monkeys told these horrific tales of monkeys running
around with the tops of their heads cut off. These wires and
electrodes coming out of their brains. It was really just some
pathological experiment going on there. Then the hardware, the
antennae for this global mind-control project came out of actually
the Soviet Union. It was discovered in I think in the 1960's
when -- maybe it was in the 1950's -- when at least three of
our U.S. ambassadors to the Soviet Union died from brain tumors,
brain cancer. And it was a result of the Russians, the Soviets
microwaving the U.S. embassy in Moscow, and causing not only
brain cancer in three ambassadors, or other illnesses, but some
of the staff in the embassy also died of neurological diseases
and very strange illnesses. And actually Henry Kissinger, who
was in the State Department, stepped in, covered it up, gave
the embassy workers' hazard pay, and some of them never regained
their health. Their health was destroyed. So on July 4th, 1976,
the 200th anniversary of the establishment of the United States
of America as an independent country, the Woodpecker signal
was turned on by the Soviet Union and nobody knew what it was,
but the ham radio operators around the world picked it up immediately.
It was sort of a knocking sound or a pecking sound on their
transmissions, on their radio transmissions, and they nicknamed
it the Woodpecker
signal because it sounded like woodpeckers sound when they
are pecking on trees. And it interfered with airplane and ship
traffic on the seas, so the Soviets took out certain band widths
or frequencies that were interfering with communications that
were necessary for airplanes and ships. And it remained in operational
mode for quite a long time. And it turns out that signal was
over the horizon radar transmitted from seven of the largest
transmitters in the world located on the eastern side of the
Soviet Union, and on the western side. And one of them was powered
by Chernobyl, the nuclear power plants at Chernobyl. So these
consumed huge enormous amounts of electricity. They were transmitting
beams of radar, over the horizon radar, which were transmitted
all the way to the United States. They could cross these beams
over each other because the transmitters were a long distance
apart in the Soviet Union. They were conducting experiments
with the full cooperation of the U.S. Government. In fact, they
became secret partners in 1978 at a United Nations meeting which
was held, it was a treaty signing conference where 68 countries
signed a treaty agreeing not to use the environment as a weapon,
and not to damage the environment with environmental weapons
or other kinds of weapons. At that agreement, at that treaty
signing agreement the United States and the Soviet Union became
secret partners in the Woodpecker Project, and also in the co-development
of environmental weapons which we would call exotic weapons
today, such as weather modification or weather warfare, tectonic
warfare that is triggering earthquakes and volcanoes erupting,
and then the mind control is part of that.
Webre: So just to ask you, so that for example
with regard to the Woodpecker Project, the U.S. then in effect
outsourced its program to the Soviet Union and allowed it to
attack a specific city.
Moret: -- And experiment upon American citizens.
Webre: Yes. And then the U.S. went in and evaluated
Moret: Well actually we sent many scientists
and a very, very large magnet that weighed many tons. We also
transferred other technology and equipment and money to the
Soviet Union. So really in a way you could say they were under
contract to us. And we also outsourced testing the MKULTRA software
and experimented on Canadians. Dr. Cameron, at -- what university
was he at?
Webre: McGill University.
Moret: Yes, McGill University. He was actually
conducting MKULTRA experiments on Canadian citizens. And they
were doing horrific things like erasing their memories and doing
just horrible things to their brains and their ability to function
as normal human beings. They really destroyed them. And this
was allowed secretly by the Canadian Government and the U.S.
secretly allowed the Soviets to conduct the hardware experiments
with the Woodpecker Project. The transmission of this mind-control
technology through very, very large transmitters in the Soviet
Union. So it most definitely was a joint project between the
U.S., Canada, the Soviet Union, and of course --of course--
England was deeply involved as well.
Webre: So these are really just partners in
the permanent war economy.
Moret: These are partners in the permanent
war economy and this really involves the Wall Street banking
establishment, Skull and Bones, the secret society at Yale,
where the sons of the Wall Street banking establishment have
been members and rose to very, very high and important positions
in the secret government as well as infiltrating the regular
government of the United States since even before the 1850's.
And it involves this partnership between the Wall Street banking
establishment, the British throne, and the London money power,
which on the face of it is managed by the Rothschilds.
Webre: So going back to the development of
the mind control technology, then how did that relate to Livermore
where you were working?
Moret: Well, when I was working there, I was
working on the Superfund
Project to clean up the chemical waste at Livermore from
years and years of very sloppy and irresponsible practices of
just dumping chemicals all over the property. And I had no idea
that there was radioactive contamination everywhere. I mean,
I was working as a drilling geologist and sampling three thousand
samples a month. I didn't know they were contaminated with radioactivity.
So I quit after two years and just thought it was absolutely
the weirdest place I had ever been in my life. And there was
a very strong social filter there where mostly people who like
to be controlled survived that social filter and remained there
most of their careers. They sort of thought they were getting
free money, but what they were getting was free cancer instead.
And so I had no idea what projects they were doing there. It
was completely secret. It was --all the information was compartmentalized.
You don't know what the application is for whatever research
you are doing there. And I remember going to the laser building.
I had heard about this huge laser project called Shiva. And
when I entered this very large building, they were sort of shooting
this laser beam all over this building, upstairs and downstairs,
and they had mirrors sitting on chairs at the top of stairs
and at the bottom of stairs. You know, it was just kids playing
with really big toys. And in the lobby of this building was
a huge statue of Shiva. It is an Indian god with many arms and
legs. To the physicists working on the laser project it represented
the dance of the universe. Later on, I discovered in a film
about the HAARP project, the HAARP project is around the Arctic
Circle, and that is where they put the hardware of the Woodpecker
signal for the Woodpecker project together with the MKULTRA
software. That is three very large antennae arrays over a square
mile each. And they are located in Alaska, one is in Newfoundland,
and one is in Norway. And the purpose is to entrain and manipulate
the earth's magnetic field with these very, very large antennas.
Now the way they developed them was: Livermore developed the
hardware, the HAARP antennae, the Stanford Research Institute
was involved in the MKULTRA mind control, and UC Davis is where
they had the monkey colony where they did experiments and produced
research which was then applied to human beings. The nexus of
the Livermore-Standford- UC Davis activity was actually in Sunol
which is a very, very tiny little ranch town with just a few
hundred people there, where the Hearst family, William Randolph
Hearst and his family had a cattle ranch. And this is sort of
the hub of the wheel that Stanford, Livermore, and UC Davis
are on, or they are some distance from this central point. There
were CIA people living there, there were Skull and Bones people
involved in Sunol, there were Stanford research physicists,
and it was very convenient to have them all living and socializing
in this little town. It is also where Anton LaVey came and had
Satanic meetings there, and even the chief of police for San
Francisco, I believe his name was Campbell, was seen in Sunol
at one of these Anton LaVey events. At that time, and probably
still today Stanford, Livermore and UC Berkeley are the two
big CIA centers where a lot of operations are going on, and
of course there is a lot of collaboration. So there were two
safe houses, one was in San Francisco, and that was run by Captain
George Hunter White, and it is where he would, he was running
this house of prostitution where businessmen and elected
officials would come and use the services, and they would be
videotaped and then blackmailed and compromised. That is really
how they controlled them and controlled the politics of the
Bay area in San Francisco. Now that was one safe house that
Captain George Hunter White was in charge of. The other one,
Dave Silvey who had been in Project artichoke, he was kidnapped
when he was eight, on his birthday, and taken to the safe house.
He showed me a photograph of it. It was just this old farm house
out in the country. I finally said to him, where is this safe
house? He said "It is in Livermore." And that is when
I knew the Livermore Lab had to have been involved in MKULTRA
and in the HAARP project and in the Woodpecker Project. And
I finally found an awards newsletter, where the Livermore Lab
scientists love to show off and talk about all the prizes and
awards they got that year for their unique research projects,
and in 1993 in that newsletter it said that sixteen Livermore
scientists had traveled to NSA and CIA headquarters to receive
the highest civilian awards that they give, and it was for their
Woodpecker Project which they couldn't say what it was really
about, because it was Top Secret. But it was for getting information
in a way where there was no other way to get information, and
of course this was the mind control and mind-reading technology,
we know now after further research. So Captain George Hunter
White would bring the young victims in a car. They always had
Lincoln Continentals or big black cadillacs. Very, very nice
cars. Dave Silvey described the day he was kidnapped. A priest
came up to him as he was going home, and the priest said "Oh,
your mother wants me to take you to her work today, she can't
come and fetch you, and she sent me to come and fetch you for
her. Here, just get into the back of the car." And so Dave
got into the back of the car and there were no handles on the
door at all. He couldn't get out. And so the priest actually
took him to the safe house in Livermore that day and Captain
George Hunter White was there, and the priest said, they negotiated
on how much money Capt. White would pay him. It was like $3,000.00.
He didn't get as much as he would have gotten if Dave Silvey
had gone through his catechism in the Catholic Church. He hadn't
completed that. If they were Christians, they got more money
for them. So there were horrible tortures that went on with
children in that house. They were raped. Some of them were murdered.
They did horrible experiments on them. I asked Davie what kind
of experiments they did. He said "Well they fed us these
horrible chemicals and they were experimenting on us with chemicals.
It made you really sick." He would focus on the chemicals,
and I said "Well, did they ever -- because I knew the mind
control was electromagnetic, and I said, "Well, did they
ever put a helmet on your head or electrodes on your head?"
He said "Oh yes, sometimes they would take us upstairs
and put us in this big chair like a dentist chair and put a
helmet on our head and they had all these wires coming out of
it." Well, when Dave and I and Marion Fulk who is a Manhattan
Project scientist retired from Livermore Lab, when we went out
to look at the safe house, there was this huge transformer on
a pole right next to the window upstairs which was the room
where these experiments were done. And why in the world would
a farm house have a huge transformer on a pole next to it when
there was no way that they would need that kind of electricity
or that much. And the windows are still completely boarded over
on all the upstairs windows. And Dave described one time he
escaped. He was locked in the barn and he and this little girl,
she helped him push the boards open, way from the barn, so that
he could crawl out, and he ran away and ended up in this huge
antennae field. Well when he told me about the antennae field
I knew that had to also be part of the safe house and what Livermore
was actually doing there. The Federal Communications [Commission],
the FCC actually owned that very large antennae field. Those
antennas are gone now, but after I had gone out to the safe
house, I took him back to his house and sat him down in front
of the computer. I went to the HAARP web site in Alaska, and
I showed him that facility. He almost had a heart attack. He
said "Oh my God, the safe house, we were the prototype
for that HAARP facility in Alaska."
Weber: Right, so that actually then HAARP was
developed at Livermore nuclear laboratories.
Moret: That's right,and I have actually talked
to a scientist who worked at Livermore and told me he worked
on the HAARP Project, developing that antennae. He said "I
always wondered why the HAARP project was so well-funded every
year, year after year. He was there like in the 70's, and he
said there was no obvious benefit to the public from this project.
Webre: Right, and so that was the hardware
of this vast mind control weapon.
Moret: That's right.
Webre: The software, where was that developed
Moret: That was the MKULTRA projects that involved
almost every person in the American Psychiatry Association and
also many, many, many electrical engineers. There is a very
big organization for electrical engineers. They actually published
a book of research papers that pertained to the MKULTRA / HAARP
project. So academia has been a key player in the development
of the MKULTRA software and the HAARP antennae or the electronic
hardware. And it is very interesting that in the 1850's, Dwight
[Ed. Note: She probably means Henry
Durant, a Yale graduate who was the first UC President from
1868-1869, for whom she probably inadvertently substituted the
name "Dwight" from Theodore
Dwight Woolsey, President of Yale from 1846 through 1871]
Coit] Gilman who were two bonesmen from Skull and Bones
at Yale came out to California. Dwight [ie. Durant] was appointed
as the first president of the University of California, and
Dwight [ie. Durant] and Gilman [who served in the fourth presidential
term at the University
of California system from 1872-1875] were very busy at UC
Berkeley. And they actually set up the land grant college system
in the United States which is where the bureaucrats and the
flunkies for the ruling elite and the shadow government are
trained. And the sons of the wealthy ruling elite and the Wall
Street banking establishment go to Yale and to Harvard -- but
the Harvard men serve the Yale men -- and to Princeton and other
Ivy League colleges. So there is even, and especially through
academia, academic institutions, is where the real framework
of this apparatus has been set up.
Webre: Right. Now, for example, what would
be the application of the HAARP Project to the population of
Canada? How is HAARP applied here in Canada?
Moret: Well, Canada and the United States are
really economic colonies of Britain. The British Empire is certainly
not dead. It is very much alive. So, I think that you and I
have observed on our recent speaking tour of Southeast Asia
that the U.S. military presence is just everywhere in almost
every country we went to. But I think that we agreed at the
end of our trip that the U.S. military is just the military
bully or proxy for the Zionist Anglo American economic empire.
And so whatever is developed in the U.S. and in Canada is really
developed to benefit the British throne and the London money
power or banking establishment. They are the ones who are really
running the world. And so what they desired to do was to develop
these technologies to be able to dominate and subdue their own
citizens and the global population as well in order to carry
out their goals and implement their goals, which is basic communism.
It is a one class system all over the planet with one central
government running everything. Depopulation is a very, very
key part of this because they want to depopulate by a third
to two thirds the world population, in other words two to four
billion people. As crazy and outrageous as that statement sounds,
it is actually in the National Security Council Memos from their
meetings and it became national security policy in a paper called
Global 2000 which Kissinger, Zbigniew
Alexander Haig, and Ed
Muskie wrote for President Carter in 1979. And in the National
Security Council Meetings, in the minutes or the memos leading
up to the creation of this document or this policy paper, Kissinger
stated that depopulation in Third World countries in order to
control valuable mineral resources was of a greater priority
even than the nuclear weapons program to U.S. national security.
Webre: Right. So bring this back around to
Canada in terms of the HAARP hardware and the MKULTRA software.
HAARP is the delivery system for mind control software, and
there are other applications of HAARP as well. How would you
imagine that this weapon is now being used in Canada and against
Moret: Well, some of the key times that it
would be used, what I have observed in the United States is
there is very heavy use of it during elections. And so it is
turned on at night and transmitted through police towers and
cell phone towers. But also they can transmit it from HAARP
around the Arctic Circle. The chemtrails that people have observed
are actually being used as electromagnetic frequency mirrors.
The transmissions from HAARP are bounced off of these chemtrail
mirrors down on to populations that they wish to target. And
the police antennas are hooked up intimately with satellites
with HAARP, and they all are integrated and overlapping and
operate wherever they want to target someone. They can use them
on individuals, or they can target large populations. For instance,
they were used in Afghanistan and Iraq during those wars. When
they targeted soldiers, Iraqi soldiers, they could make their
heads feel like they were exploding and they would just run
off the battlefields and give up. The Soviets transmitted this
mind control from Kazakhstan,
and they used it on their own soldiers in Afghanistan towards
the end of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan when the Russian
soldiers were so demoralized and depressed. They actually transmitted
mood control to lift their spirits and to empower them and put
them in a more positive psychological state. Now the way they
are using them on Canadians and Americans is they can target
individuals who are protestors, whistleblowers, change agents,
people like you and me and a lot of people that we know. But
they have also targeted especially single women, because they
are more vulnerable. I know they practiced on prisoners. Now
there are actual formal contracts between universities, colleges,
and private institutions under new legislation that has been
passed since 1993 in the United States, including the Patriot
Act. There is a standing contract between these educational
institutions and Homeland Security, the military, and law enforcement.
And this software and hardware and technologies combined with
sociological behavior like gang
stalking is being tested under contract in universities,
colleges, and private institutions. I believe the very worst
institution carrying out this kind of research is the University
of California. They have 14 campuses in California, and I have
observed at UC Davis and UCLA and at UC Berkeley, the UC campuses
I have been on, and UC Santa Cruz, that the students are actively
participating with faculty members. They are experimenting on
other unwitting or naive faculty members and other students.
They are tracking them, targeting them, gang-stalking them.
It is really, really disgusting. And what's very funny is that
this activity was being observed at one college campus and the
police antennas suddenly failed from a power failure. All of
a sudden the students and the faculty members were very confused.
They just stopped. They had been gang stalking the target and
they just sort of scurried off like cockroaches. They did not
know what to do. They also did not know what they had been doing.
So these patterns of behavior are obviously being transmitted
from the police antennas.
Webre: Now when you say gang stalking for members
of our coop radio audience who may not be familiar with that,
could you describe that?
Moret: Well I observed gang stalking on the
UC Davis campus and I was also targeted at UC
Davis and at UC Berkeley. But it was very, very bad there
[at UC Davis], and Chancellor
[Larry Neil] Vanderhoef [Ed. Note: Chancellor from 1994-2009]
who has raised a lot of money for the campus and is a particularly
disgusting individual, even his own grown adult son was involved
in the gang stalking. They have hundreds of people who are involved
in it and these are at all levels of the university. From the
top, the chancellor's family, all the way down to the mechanics
or the gardeners or the janitors. Whatever, it is happening.
It is a pathological institution when this kind of behavior
sets in and is condoned and encouraged. It is used for social
and political control. It came out of the Catholic Church. The
Masons use it, the Ku Klux Klan got this gangstalking behavior
and technology from the Masons. It has been used for millennia
to control people. It is just more high tech now with the HAARP
and MKULTRA new technology that has been developed. It is the
same old stuff, it is just more electronic now.
Webre: Right, so --
Moret: But it is all based on malice. It is
based on destroying individuals and destroying happiness and
mutilating innocent people and victims who cannot defend and
protect themselves. And Captain George Hunter White, who was
in charge of the two safe houses where this horrific experimentation
was done on children, wrote in his diary, which is now, his
diaries are now at Stanford in the library, you can go and read
them, and he said about MKULTRA and the safe houses and what
occurred there, he said
"Where else could a red-blooded American boy get away with
rape and murder and torture in the vineyards." And Livermore
is covered with vineyards. Can you imagine what happened there?
These were not sane people. Dr.
Sidney Gottlieb, who was one of the leaders of the MKULTRA
research, [one of] the architects, George Herbert Walker Bush
himself who is a pedophile, Dr.
[Donald Ewen] Cameron in Canada, these are sadistic, psychopathic,
crazy, insane people doing this. Now it is being implemented
on campuses in the United States and I am sure it is being conducted
in Canada too -- and in England. In fact, it is in all of the
NATO countries, Alfred.
Webre: Well, there was an incidence of gang
stalking, I think, reported to us. Dennis Kyne who is a anti-depleted
uranium researcher along with --
Moret: -- And he is a veteran of the first
Gulf War. He has been contaminated with depleted uranium. I
know him very well.
Webre: Yes, and yourself were speakers at the
recent Vancouver 9/11 Truth Conference.
Moret: That's right.
Webre: As I understand it, Dennis reported
an instance of gang stalking that was carried out against him,
and I was wondering if you could describe that for our listening
Moret: Yes. Dennis --during the whole conference
which lasted for three days, Dennis periodically would come
and update me. He was being targeted by some of the volunteers
who were participating in the conference. These are Canadians
who volunteers at the conference. He complained to me about
how they were treating him and targeting him and being rude
to him and so forth. Harassing him. They were much more subtle
with me and with you, but there certainly the perpetrators were
present there, and there was a lot of surveillance and other
things going on. As is normal and usual for 9/11 conferences,
I have never been to any events that are more infiltrated and
controlled than these 9/11 conferences. And on the very last
evening, on Sunday night when the conference had ended a lot
of the people went over to the hotel where the speakers had
stayed just to kind of hangout and drink beer and talk. Dennis
walked in, and one of the volunteers, tall, kind of a Persian
guy, who had harassed him the whole three days, came over to
him and punched him in the chest for no reason. Dennis was sort
of stunned, and he kind of looked around and he saw a video
camera rolling, pointed straight at him. And so this had all
been set up. It was provocation and harassment. It was all set
up ahead of time. And it was simply a hit on him. He was also
very harassed by Canadian customs when his plane landed in Vancouver
and he was held by the Canadian customs for over two hours.
They took everything out of his suit case. Sliced open all the
DVDs and CDs that he had brought to sell. They just grilled
him for two hours about the conference and why he was there
and what he was doing and what was on his CD's and so forth.
And finally he said "I have five people waiting upstairs
for me. The organizers from the conference and they are really
going to start wondering about what has happened to me."
Dennis said "They never would have let me go that night
if I hadn't told them that five people were waiting for me."
So finally they let him go, but he was harassed the whole time
he was at the conference, and not surprisingly it was by some
of the organizers, the volunteers.
Webre: Now did Dennis mention who was behind
that video camera?
Moret: He did not, he did not. But he did say
that Drew, who was one of the volunteers, was with him. Drew,
actually I worked with him a lot before flying up to Canada.
He was very courteous and helpful and everything. I had nothing
to complain about. And he did not bother Dennis either. But
I think there was another person, another volunteer named Patrick
who was not so friendly to Dennis.
Webre: So you think there may have been a --
the purpose of that videotape would have been if he would have
reacted to being punched in the chest?
Moret: That is right.
Webre: They would have done something with
Moret: Yes, that is right.
Webre: Right, so do you think in your expert
opinion, because you have been called to testify, do you think
that there is something of a coordination of the harassment
that Dennis Kyne, who is a recognized anti-depleted uranium
activist, received at Canadian Customs, that there is a connection
between that and the COINTELPRO-type harassment that he received
at the 9/11 Conference?
Moret: Yes, the COINTELPRO, or Counter Intelligence
Program, came out of the 50's or 60's. And it was used widely,
for instance, on the Black Movement, on the anti-Vietnam Movement,
on the Free Speech Movement in Berkeley. It continues to be
used. It was actually investigated in I believe it was the Church
Hearings in Congress and the Congress passed laws that forbade
the FBI from ever spying on American citizens again. All they
did was simply outsource it to police departments. I discovered
this at the Earth First! Judi
Bari trial in Oakland in about 2002 when a woman who was
saving the Redwoods in Northern California with an organization
called Earth First!, they did it by "tree sitting"
and working together. They were very, very effective. When she
began to organize the loggers to teach them that they could
continue logging if they would also replace and care for due
caretaking of the forests, that is when the Oakland police,
in collusion with the FBI, car-bombed her in Oakland. And the
trial brought the FBI and the Oakland police to one table as
defendants in the court room, and the Earth First! plaintiff
and their lawyers to the other table in the court room. The
reason I went to that trial is because when I became a whistleblower
at Livermore in 1991, I noticed that I was just being harassed
everywhere I went in the Bay area by Oakland police, and I couldn't
understand why. Well I went to that trial and that is where
I learned that the Oakland Police Department is the COINTELPRO
headquarters for Northern California. The LA police department
is the COINTELPRO headquarters for Southern California, and
they go all over the United States. In fact they go all over
the world conducting surveillance and targeting and tracking
people and harassing them. It is sort of a very well-integrated,
seamless operation because the Oakland police department has
a permanent office in the FBI office in San Francisco, and the
FBI office in San Francisco has a permanent office in the Oakland
Police Department. And they all work together. They also go
into other countries. The FBI identifies individuals who are
nationals for the countries they are in where the FBI wants
to carry out COINTELPRO and their other programs. They bring
these foreign nationals to the U.S., train them in the COINTELPRO
methodology, and then send them back to their own countries.
And they are citizens of those countries, but they are really
working for the FBI in their own countries, and that is what
I observed in Canada.
Webre: Right. Very interesting. So that what
you can say is that these COINTELPRO and gang stalking networks
use HAARP and use this technology. That is part of this medium
for control. For example, it is probably the glue that holds
together the security and prosperity partnership.
Webre: Which is the North American Union. The
networks that hold together the North American Union are really
a form of elite gang stalking.
Moret: That's right, and it is really an antennae
keeping it all together [laughter].
Webre: Exactly, well you know Leuren we have
come to the end of this very interesting segment [of our] program
on electronic harassment and mind-control. We can call it a
parallel social structure that the New World Order is basing
Moret: Well it is really what they have made
all these movies are about. It is a matrix. But it is not real.
Moret: It is just electronic signals that are
controlling people and creating another reality that is not
a reality. Its not what life is really all about. It is not
who and what we are. It is not really how we behave or have
social interactions. It is a virtual world that is
Webre: Exactly, we have come to the end of
our time, and I really want to thank you, and perhaps we can
continue this subject in future programs. This is Vancouver
Coop Radio. We have been with Leuren Moret, an expert witness
at the Tokyo International Tribunal for War Crimes in Afghanistan
and now an expert witness on depleted uranium for a Member of
the Canadian Parliament. This is CFRO 102.7 FM, www.coopradio.org.
Moret archive at America First Institute. This
web page provides a comprehensive list of Ms. Moret's works
a web site run by Alfred Webre that lists videos and interview
MP3s conducted with Leuren Moret
ARTICHOKE (also referred to as Operation ARTICHOKE) was a CIA
project that researched interrogation methods and arose from
Project BLUEBIRD on August 20, 1951, run by the CIA's Office
of Scientific Intelligence. A memorandum by Richard Helms
to CIA director Allen Welsh Dulles indicated Artichoke became
Project MKULTRA on April 13, 1953.[not in citation given]
project studied hypnosis, forced morphine addiction (and subsequent
forced withdrawal), and the use of other chemicals, among other
methods, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in subjects.
was an offensive program of mind control that gathered information
together with the intelligence divisions of the Army, Navy,
Air Force, and FBI. In addition, the scope of the project was
outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, "Can
we get control of an individual to the point where he will do
our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws
of nature, such as self-preservation?"
Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality by Psychiatrists
by Colin A. Ross MD A 10-Page Summary [Ed. Note:
This is a good overview of CIA mind control programs]. "In
this summary of Bluebird, Dr. Ross describes unethical experiments
conducted by psychiatrists to create amnesia, new identities,
hypnotic access codes, and new memories in the minds of experimental
subjects. His research is based on 15,000 pages of documents
obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. Dr. Ross is a
past president of the International Society for the Study of
the US Government Created the "Drug Problem" in the
USA by Michael E. Kreca, lewrockwell.com.
Hunter White, of THCA-laced "Lucky Strikes" fame,
had returned to the FBN (now the DEA) at war’s end and
continued to research behavior modifying drugs. In 1955, when
MK-ULTRA was running full throttle, he was a high ranking FBN
administrator who helped the Agency develop and implement a
similar operation called Midnight Climax. In this infamous scheme,
"safehouses" staffed with prostitutes were established
in San Francisco. The hookers lured men from local taverns back
to these safehouses after their drinks had been previously spiked
with LSD. White’s team secretly filmed the subsequent
events in each house. The purpose of these so-called "national
security brothels" was to enable the CIA to experiment
with the use of sex and mind altering drugs to extract information
from test subjects, and it was planned, from spies, POWs, defectors
Climax was terminated after eight years when CIA Inspector General
John Earman charged that "the concepts involved in manipulating
human behavior are found by many people within and outside the
Agency to be distasteful and unethical." He stated that
"the rights and interest of U.S. citizens were placed in
jeopardy." Earman further noted LSD "had been tested
on individuals at all social levels, high and low, native American
and foreign." Richard Helms, MK-ULTRA’s bureaucratic
godfather, summarily rebuffed Earman’s charges, claiming
that "positive operational capacity to use drugs is diminishing
owing to a lack of realistic testing. Tests," Helms continued,
"were necessary to keep up with the Soviets." However,
Helms reversed himself a year later when testifying before the
Warren Commission investigating the JFK assassination, claiming
that "Soviet research has consistently lagged five years
behind Western research."
retirement from civil service in 1966, White wrote a startling
farewell letter to Dr. Gottlieb. He reminisced about his Midnight
Climax work. His comments were frightening:
was a very minor missionary, actually a heretic, but I toiled
wholeheartedly in the vineyards because it was fun, fun, fun.
Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill, cheat,
steal, rape and pillage with the sanction and blessing of the
else indeed, but as a member of what would later become the
hypocritical War on (Some) Drugs?
the end of the 1950s the CIA was funding just about every qualified
LSD researcher and psychologist it could find, through such
contractors as the Society for the Study of Human Ecology, the
Josiah Macy, Jr. Foundation, and the Geschichter Fund for Medical
Black Magic: Government Research into E.S.P. and Mind
Control by Thomas Porter
Woodpecker by Cal, bibliotecapleyades.net
HAARP, bibliotecapleyades.net. Provides many valuable
Artichoke by David M. Silvey. The online Google
books version of this book has an extract of another transcript
prepared of this interview.
Russian Woodpecker: experiments in global mind control?
by Phillip Coppins
wikipedia.org (includes gang stalking)
of the 1973 Church Committee Hearings, on CIA misdeeds, and
the 1984 Iran/Contra Hearings....