Editor's Notes this is a "rush" transcription
by William B. Fox, Publisher, America First Books
that is reasonably but not totally accurate for
my own false flag research purposes.
[I have marked any transcription problems in brackets]
Dr. Winn Parker: [1:35] This
is Parker Pathways. Dr. Winn Parker on Republic Broadcasting
Network. February 3, 2007 . And we are here with coverage
of what is on the beltway, what is on medical medical opinions,
legal opinions, but more than that, some insights in connecting
the dots in several disciplines around the world. I want to
congratulate some added listeners from Canada and Australia
and a few from Japan. Welcome to Parker's Pathways. I wanted
to let you know about the Federal Drug Administration has open
call on comments by February 19th 2008, on some changes which
are highly influenced by a Parker's Pathways that started in
2003 concerning manufacturing practices in pharmaceuticals.
But of course that is the water we drink as well. And what the
FDA has on open call for comments to the FDA is the elimination
of the Environmental Protection Agency water standard. And this
is to replace a requirement that all water be safe for human
consumption. This is the first time in the history of the United
States that this has ever been done, that all water be safe
for human consumption. The caveat there is that the government
is trying to get people to drink reusable water which is really
recycled sewage water and I will be very much involved in having
the listeners toward a national amendment for the toilet-tap
on the table initiative nationally. The other addition is the
addition of bio-burden testing as an example of in-process testing
for all processes, for pharmaceutical and process materials
for food. We had I think a lot to do with that. The FDA mentions
us and this is bioburden testing. It has to do with the chemicals
that are being tested in the human body that are toxic and are
changing in the biochemisty of the human body for food and water.
This is an extraordinary development in the history
of the United States. The first time officially in the United
States of America to have any type of effect on the food and
water that is ingested, not rubbed on the body. Britain has
decided that they are going to go the other way. They are going
to deny treatment to anyone over 65 and any health-only person
who is obese and take that as a way for their health care promulgations.
This is part of the new health care system that is being touted
for presidential candidates in the United States. When we come
back at the other end of the break, we are going to pursue the
internalization of real danger out there and how we can prevent
it. [5:01 start of break]
Dr. Parker: [8:15 end of break] This is Dr.
Winn Parker, Parker Pathways and I wanted to finish up on the
Federal Drug Administration's new good menu feeding manufacturing
practices that they have as an open call from the public, as
a window from starting at February 19th, that these comments
are due by February 19th concerning if you don't want any testing
of the water or if you want the drug products to be contaminated
as they are or you don't want the elimination of the EPA water
standard to be replaced with the requirement that all water
be safe for human consumption. But that of course the caveat
is that sewage water is involved in that caveat and when I first
started in the year 2003 exposing the contaminants in the water,
were not just contaminants, we are talking about the medical
chemistry of the body. With that the FDA told me that while
they didn't have any jurisdiction over the water because concerning
its content, because it was a food. And the EPA when I talked
to the head of the EPA and the president's cabinet he said,
"We don't have any control over the water for the drinking
because it is a food." And then it was after that I had
a little something to do with the idea of having a date stamped
on the water bottle when you have your drinking water bottle
you will see a date there on the bottle, and that has to do
with the contaminants in the water and plus any kinds of plastic
that afford its toxicity to the human body. So that is a big
change in the history of the United States to have at least
the consideration by the Federal Drug Administration to change
the standards by which the chemistry of the water is to be evaluated.
And then of course we have other facts of what Britain wants
to do which is the opposite. And how the United States by not
giving care are denying any treatment to anyone over 65, or
anyone who has an unhealthy lifestyle, or who is obese. It is
framed in a lot of these revisions by the government agencies
in the United States to control who gets future care, and this
is why I want a Constitutional Amendment for the content of
food and water and medical protocols, and medical protocols
being the testing concept that goes into testing for these various
situations, and harm to the body, and several harms to the body
can be from any kind of form. It can be from radiation, it can
be from food contaminants. From disinfectants, which we talked
about that are carcinogenic as well, and I am very honored to
have as a guest today Leuren Moret who is a very knowledgeable
person as a geoscientists about deteriorated uranium and the
effect in our body. Leuren, are you on air?
Leuren Moret: Yes. Can you hear me?
Dr. Parker: Yes I can, good morning.
L. Moret: Good. Good morning, how are you?
Dr. Parker: Good, very good. Thanks for being
the guest on Parker Pathways today. Did you hear the intro on
what I exposed on the FDA?
L. Moret: Yes I did.
Dr. Parker: What did you think of that?
L. Moret: Well my comment is that all of these
government agencies were set up by the military and the Atomic
Energy Commission to hide the effects of radiation from bomb-testing
and nuclear power from the American people. So it is no surprise
Dr. Parker: Well I know that you are highly
expertised in the subject that we are going to be dealing with
today on deteriorated uranium. That there are other aspects
of this. Effects the physiologies of mammalian cells, and how
food and water is effected, and this effects us all politically.
We are politically oriented as well. Are you familiar with the
breaking story in the past 20 hours about a Beryllium contamination
at Livermore Labs in California. Have you heard about that?
L. Moret: Well I worked at Livermore for two
years. I was in charge of the sampling database for the Superfund
Project. And basically Livermore is a scientific whore house
and they of course have Beryllium contamination. I have not
heard this story but the whole town is completely contaminated
in the region, and just from their activity exploding depleted
uranium out at site 300 every person who has had their hair
tested in the San Francisco Bay area, I have been told by a
hair analysis person, has uranium in their hair. So you just
can't have a nuclear facility or a nuclear bomb factory and
not poison the whole region.
Dr. Parker: Yes.
L. Moret: What is the story?
Dr. Parker: Well the story is to me a cover
story. What they are doing is saying that Beryllium has been
in contamination out there for a year or so, maybe longer --
L. Moret: Oh no, decades.
Dr. Parker: Yes, but that is the cover story.
And then at least three people have died from the ingestion
of the metal, and Beryllium -- and of course the symptoms for
Beryllium are very close to other symptoms that affect along.
Some are tumor oriented. At the cough. The usual look-alike
of asbestos poisoning, but at the same time they are neglecting
to mention that they are saying the dosage is not something
to be concerned about, and not everyone is breathing it. And
that is the cover story. But I can remember the old days when
I was involved with the Defense Department up front on the front
line and doing cancer work before cancer was rarely the romance
disease of death, and that is what it was called. The romance
of disease of death because at that time cancer was considered
L. Moret: Oh.
Dr. Parker: Yes. And that was considered the
latest thing. Beryllium was one of the metals that we used to
use as a radioactive tracer for the phosphorous, the outlying
phosphorous. They would take these energy cell systems, and
then to be able to measure it out in the serum of the patient
and then take that and re-inject it. Which was really quite
advanced at that time. Now of course we are going to get in
today with the use of stem cells and radioactivity today to
tie in with your expertise and have your comments about that.
But we are really honored to have you start off after the break
as well, where your thoughts are on deteriorated uranium, and
all the implications of it. The listeners are going to have
a rare treat here, because there are not many people walking
around on this earth that know as much, that can expose as much,
concerning how far we have gone in terms of contamination on
this planet and in people's bodies with uranium byproducts.
I mean, it has almost gotten to the point where Einstein's equation,
energy changes to mass [E = MC squared] has turned out to be
that we are the mass and in a lot of other ways. I have done
extensive writings on this subject too, and you know there is
the editorial on the Republic Broadcasting Network page on chloramine
causes health damage, and I have suggested that drinking water
have a black label.
L. Moret: Yes.
Dr. Parker: And I am not joking. And of course
we have facilitated the FDA on their own to develop some kind
of concept to be able to change the concept of "Well, we
had better look at the biosensor
concept of how our products that we make with drugs and the
use of the kinds of waters that we are using affect the manufacturing
of the drug." Well I know personally, and you can add to
this as well, even better than I can, is the fact that I know
absolutely hands down that the water that is used in the pharmaceutical
industry is radioactive.
L. Moret: Oh, I am sure.
Dr. Parker: And number two, the function of
radioactivity for food sterilization is good for molds and fungus,
but is not going to do much good for protein assimilation in
the human body, even though I know ionization has got to be
done somewhere along the lines. It is done already for spices,
but you can start anywhere you like with your whole concept
of how you got into exposing to the world the knowledge that
you have. I am interested personally in whistle-blowing concepts
because I have felt for a long time that whistle-blowers are
the unsung heroes of this country. And they do more for this
country than some people can ever believe. You can take a full
force of people trying to go up against the government, but
why would the government want to keep it from happening? And
I can know that with the interview with Dr. Anthrax, that I
did not interview on Parker's Pathways -- that is a government
deal -- but you know you take a little person like that and
put him in Iran and fall in love with the guy from the Mideast,
and look at what the hell happened.
L. Moret: Yes, I know. [laughter]
Dr. Parker: Well, we come back from the other
end of the break, Leuren, the show is open to you, and you start
right in and with your expertise.
L. Moret: Thank you. [20:00 start of break]
Dr. Winn Parker: [23:25 end of break] This
is Parker's Pathways, Dr. Winn Parker and we have as our guest
Leuren Moret who is an expert and a whistleblower of a very
important subject that has to do with contamination from uranium.
Plus we are going to have other tie-ins with other contaminants
with uranium and water, food, and the human body. Leuren, you
have a statement in explaining your work which I find absolutely
fascinating, and perhaps you can elaborate on it. Your statement
is that the real danger from deteriorated [depleted] uranium
nanoparticles is that they are non-specific catalysts or enzymes.
And when they get into a cell they create a disruption of the
information flow. It is called Gulf War Syndrome, but it is
really a nanoparticle toxicity. I felt that was a very profound
statement, and what is your view on that, and can you start
with your work to explain that statement?
L. Moret: Yes. I am actually a geo-scientist
so I have a very interdisciplinary background in science which
has helped me tremendously to understand and to be able to explain
to people to make science transparent so they can understand
how radioactive nanoparticles that they have cycled and recycled
through the environment and through their own systems. Now I
have had a key person helping me. His name is Marion Fulk. He
was a Manhattan Project scientist at the University of Chicago.
And he did all the research for the Livermore Nuclear Weapons
program on the dispersion and the rainout of basically nanoparticles
of radiation from bomb-testing. And that was key to understanding
how it cycles through the physical environment. But after he
retired, he is 86 now, he spent the rest of his life understanding
the microbiology and the bioenergetics, and to have someone
who understands both of those vast fields, it is almost impossible
to find anyone like that. And what he has taught me is what
you cannot learn in any university or from your own research,
it is a lifetime of his unique experiences that he has really
passed on to me so that I can warn the public around the world.
And so I really have to thank him. We all have to thank him
for his tremendous contribution.
Dr. Parker: Well I hope one day that we can
talk him into having a --depending on his interview, to be on
Parker Pathways, because he would fit very nicely.
L. Moret: Well you and he would sure have a
Dr. Parker: Yes, and I mean it too.
L. Moret: Yes. So what he taught me was about
how the body functions and the cells function. And of course
we have hundreds of millions of cells in our body, and they
are organized in a syncopated dance, which makes life possible.
And they are controlled and organized by information flow. And
in the cell there are a large number of small molecules which
are turned on or turned off by a specific catalyst for each
cell catalyst or enzyme. So hormones and insulin and all kinds
of chemical reactions come to the cell wall, knock on the cell
wall door, and if they enter they continue carrying the information
throughout the cell. And it is all organized and coordinated,
and it has to happen in the right sequence, and it has to be
the right specific enzyme at each small molecule in order for
the information flow to go forward to the other molecules in
the cell. So what happens is depleted uranium particles, and
of course this applies to other nanoparticles, including radioactive
and nonradioactive particles, they behave according to the rules
of quantum mechanics. They do not physically and chemically
behave the way larger particles, larger than a tenth of a micron
in diameter, do. And because they have a very large surface
to volume ratio and because the electrons on the surface are
much freer to react, they are extremely, extremely toxic. And
each of them has an unpredictable biological effect as a nonspecific
enzyme or catalyst. They are inhaled. 70% of the nanoparticles
that are inhaled go through the blood-lung barrier into the
blood and they are carried in the cholesterol and the lipids
right through the cell wall in the cell.
Dr. Parker: Well the lipids are the communicator
cell enzyme cell systems for energy in the cell.
L. Moret: That is right.
Dr. Parker: So that is very important. When
we come back from the other end of the break we are going to
continue with this discussion and interject as to why Canada
has closed off their nuclear reactors. [30:05 start of the break]
Dr. Parker: [33:24 end of the break] We are
discussing with our guest, a geoscientist, Leuren Moret, concerning
deteriorated uranium and its other aspects of its interference
with cell energy transfer systems. Leuren, I wanted to just
for the basis of our listeners who may not know what depleted
uranium is, because it comes from a metallic uranium, I'll let
you explain that. I could explain it, but I would rather have
you do it. What is depleted uranium?
Leuren Moret: Well, when you mine uranium --
extract uranium metal -- you get a ratio of three isotopes of
uranium which is constant throughout the universe and this is
because they have different half lives. And so the only isotope
that bomb-makers and nuclear power plant people are interested
in is Uranium 235. But that is only .72 percent -- less than
one percent -- of all the metal that you extract from the ore.
And so 99.3% of the uranium metal that is extracted is depleted
uranium once you remove half a percent of the U-235. And so
most of what is thrown away or discarded or is not useful is
uranium 238. That makes up 99.5% of the uranium that is not
useful. And it has a half-life of 4.5 billion years, the age
of the earth. And so the Department of Energy has [or had] over
a million tons of depleted uranium stored as uranium hexafluoride
gas, which is how the uranium 235 is extracted from the mass
of uranium. And Edward Teller said, "What are we going
to do with all of this fluoride, it is horribly neurotoxive,
and it is also very corrosive. So what he devised was the chemtrail
program and the drinking water program. So they converted the
uranium hexafluoride gas into solid uranium -- depleted uranium
-- and fluoride. And the fluoride was dumped in the drinking
water of America, because "dilution was the solution"
to the DOE pollution from fluoride. And there was never anything,
any real benefit meant for the public. The fluoride actually
in the mouth in toothpaste kills the bacteria. And so it does
cut back on tooth decay, but the fluoride gets into the structure
of the teeth and actually weakens the phosphate structure. [37:18]
Dr. Parker: One comment I would like to make
on this is that on the addition of the secondary disinfectants,
which are really being used as primary disinfectants, like chloramine
and chlorine, you add the fluorides to it, of course you are
leeching lead from pipes at that point, but the whole thing
which goes in the drinking water -- but the hydrofluoride gas
-- well, one of the steps that is in there when I uncovered
this as well, but I came from a different position, was the
chloride to oxide gas which the EPA sanctified in 1989 along
with chloramine and chlorine. Chlorine is directly related to
peer-reviewed instances of breast cancer and chloramine has
17 different tumor artifacts, gene signal changes that have
been done with animal and human studies and interrupted in 1989.
They had already researched it for 15 years on real people that
this was a leukemia and cancer-causing agent, you add to the
chlorine dioxide and you ask yourself why would they add the
chlorine dioxide gas, which I know the answer to it, there is
a whole ream of things, but what they were doing is camouflaging
what you are saying. In other words, they were putting it in
-- if you add the chlorine dioxide into the drinking water,
which they do as we speak, across America, in France, in Germany,
and in China now, you are taking and causing a hydro fluoric-iodoacetic
acid that is connected to a bromide.
L. Moret: Oh.
Dr. Parker: So the bromide acetic acid combines
with the deteriorated [depleted] uranium to cause what is called
a conversation factor. Just give me some libertarian concepts
here to interject into your reveal. But the whole thing is that
the deteriorated uranium now becomes what is called a sepsis
carrier, in other words, when it adds itself now with a hydroacetic
acid, it is now iodoacetic
acid, which now affects directly the endocrine system of
the thyroid gland, the pancreas, which is one of the causations
coming in for a type I diabetes. You add that to the fluoride,
which is now tied with the bromine fluoric
iodoacetic acid, you now have a killing machine. And now I interviewed
on June 17th, I believe it was June 17th, an incredible interview
with a person by the name of Janet Phelan, and she had exposed,
and she was a journalist in Los Angeles, and working for the
Los Angeles Times, and she uncovered the idea of the
government putting the chips into the drinking water pipes,
and these would be controlled by satellite. And they had a separate
set of blueprints according to her, and I saw the blueprints
and the whole thing. They had one [set of] blueprints for the
public and other blueprints for the system. But what you are
doing is you are selectively killing people if you wanted to.
I am not saying the government is going to do that, but that
is what her reveal is. Well what the carrier is for the chip
is now coming into your arena of the nanotube concept and the
nanoparticles that has to do with being able to trigger these
nanoparticles that you are going to talk about by satellite.
And this chip is actually a fluid combination chip which has
been extrapolated from biological enzyme systems. I have seen
the chip, and also it has got a special marking and the whole
thing. So now if you add the deteriorated uranium with the fluoride,
hydrofluoric acid and the gas is now mixed with chlorine dioxide
gas. That is mixed with the chloramine which now a carrier for
the very organisms and viruses of which they are claiming they
want to eliminate with cryptosporidium
and jargardolandia [spelling?] as organisms in the water. So
now you come along and mention this whole process, and the government's
line is that the whole process of nuclear waste is in the form
of plutonium 239, with a half life of 24,000 years. So at the
meeting in Indonesia, they had a little paragraph in there for
the sake of if you want to get a carbon credit, what you do
is you dump this stuff. [Laughter] You just dump this process
of the drinking water in such a way to take the nuclear waste
and turn it into a fuel. So then you get a carbon credit for
that. But in order to do that, you have to contaminate millions
of people. And that is where we are right now. And in Canada
as of a week ago closed its nuclear reactor that makes all the
radioisotopes for 75% of the world. And the director there,
Linda Keen, was
fired for closing the thing down. She established that there
are dangers of nuclear power and we shouldn't use it and that
was it. So the countries of France, Russia, Japan and China
have put a protest in the United Nations which goes on the table
tomorrow morning concerning how we are going to take nuclear
waste and turn it into fuel. And of course we are into a climate
change fiasco of misrepresentation of information. All of that
in the process of this. So now we plant you into this whole
thing and you are revealing the exact reason we should not even
have deteriorated uranium.
L. Moret: Depleted uranium.
Dr. Parker: Yes.
L. Moret: Yes. Well, let us look at the big
picture. The big picture, it took me seven years or eight years
to figure out all of this, working eighteen hours a day, but
the big picture is that the City of London bankers, the international
bankers, they actually control the nuclear power industry. And
they also secretly control the nuclear weapons program. Since
the 1700's they have advocated world depopulation. They are
the ones who started the overpopulation scam and they have continued
to hype this in the media that they control, in the universities
that they control and serve their purposes. And so it is very,
it is just embedded in people's minds, but depopulation isn't
necessary. It is actually capitalism and modern agricultural
practices that have cut down by ten times the amount of food
production from these modern agricultural technologies. Indigenous
technologies produce ten times more food. So we don't have an
over population program [problem]. But in order to get ahold
of the world's wealth they have to exterminate populations.
So the nuclear power [industry] and the nuclear weapons programs
and their byproducts are being engineered and used by the City
of London, the international bankers and the Wall Street bankers
to cause the deaths of two to four billion people in future
years. It is already done. We have been living in a continuous
nuclear war since 1945.
Dr. Parker: Yes.
L. Moret: Hiroshima and Nagasaki. All of the
atomic and hydrogen bombs have depleted uranium in them. It
is packed around the tiny plutonium core which is less than
20 pounds. And so all of these nuclear bomb tests that were
done, the equivalent of 40,000 Hiroshima bombs were released
into the atmosphere by the superpowers doing their bomb-testing,
starting in 1947 and continuing until 1963 when the partial
Test Ban Treaty ended bomb testing by Russia, Britain and the
U.S. But other states continued. And so the City of London owns
the nuclear power industry. They own the nuclear weapons industry
or it serves their purposes, and they have initiated
this campaign to exterminate two to four billion people. The
genetically modified organisms, the whole GM[O] industry is
part of that. The poisoning of drinking water is part of that.
This is happening all over the world, and it is being directed
from a central location. It is being directed from the City
of London. And the Queen of England and the Rockefellers own
much of the uranium supplies around the world. Most of the uranium
deposits are in Australia, Africa, and Canada. So that serves
the purposes of the British empire, and the Queen of England
personally owns -- it is not the Royal Family, it is not the
Crown, it is the Queen of England who personally owns the uranium.
Dr. Parker: Yes, I know that this has a high
probability of truth. The thing I opened the show with this
idea that Britain signs tomorrow, the same day that it goes
to the United Nations. This subject that we are talking about,
that Britain is denying treatment to anyone over 65 or people
who have unhealthy lifestyles. And plus people who are obese.
And they put them in what I have always called the economy of
scale, which is a certain percentage of people are going to
die anyway kind of statement, which is usually used in. And
it has always been said that about five percent for about ten
years now, so the addition of people being selectively programmed
in to be curtailed on health care is integrally involved in
your statement, I feel.
L. Moret: Well, let me just read to you a statement
from National Security Memo 200, April 24, 1974. The title of
this memo is "Implications of Worldwide Population Growth
for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests." This is from
a paper that I have written. "Depopulation," this
is not the memos, it is the intro, "Depopulation through
a continuous covert global nuclear war has been waged against
citizens, paid for by citizens through taxation, and privatized
and secretly implemented by the global ruling elite. From 62
years of depleted uranium wars alone, global public health has
been devastated by large increases in death rates," and
Winn, that is what you are talking about in England. They are
increasing the death rates and chronic disease, and decreasing
the birth rates, because radiation causes infertility, both
evident in the vital statistics of many countries since 1945.
And I have gone to lots of countries and collected data and
it is in the vital statistics of Japan, the U.S., and many other
countries. This is about Henry Kissinger and depopulation. Quote,
from the National Security Memo 200: "Dr. Henry Kissinger
proposed in his memorandum to the National Security Council
that `Depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign
policy towards the Third World.'" He quoted reasons of
national security and because the U.S. economy will require
large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially
from less developed countries. Wherever a lessening of population
can increase the prospect for such stability, population policy
becomes relevant to resources, supplies, and the economic interests
of the U.S.
Dr. Parker: Yes, and when we get back from
the other end of the break to start our second hour, I would
like you to continue with that thought and on nanotubes. [51:22
start of break, 54: 30 end of break]
Dr. Parker: This is Parker's Pathways, I am
Dr. Winn Parker, and it is February 3, 2007. We have as our
guest Leuren Moret who has done some extraordinary work in exposing
deteriorated uranium and its implications. We have a caller,
John from Tennessee, John are you on air?
John: I am here, Dr. Parker, thanks you.
Dr. Parker: Thanks for calling the show, John.
We have to ask for our wonderful guest here, Leuren.
John: Yes I do, and first of all thank you
Leuren for what you are doing. You know I heard you mentioning
uranium hexafluoride, and I told Dr. Parker before, I have transported
chemicals for years. My question for you is, is there any relation
between uranium hexafluoride and SF6
which has been reported to be something that is in the chemtrails,
they are finding traces of SF6. Is there any relation between
L. Moret: Well, that is a good question. What
I do know is that the fluoride escapes from drinking water supplies,
reservoirs and so forth into the atmosphere and it started screwing
up atmospheric processes and the proper transmission of electromagnetic
frequencies. And so Edward Teller and the nuclear weapons lab
had to do something about that. And so they started flying planes,
military and secretly commercial planes through the air across
America releasing chemical trails. They were aluminum and barium
particulates which reacted with the fluoride and neutralized
it in the atmosphere. Now what has happened since then is chemtrails
are now being used for a different purpose, and that is to serve
as electromagnetic frequency mirrors in the sky for HAARP transmission.
HAARP is the
High [Frequency Active] Auroral Research Project, which is three
very large ground array antennae systems around the Arctic Circle.
The University of California has been involved with developing
all kinds of weapons of mass destruction. Actually the weapon
of mass destruction contractor for Wall Street Bankers and the
City of London bankers, and this large antennae around the Arctic
Circle is being used to modify weather, trigger tectonic warfare,
and also for global mind control. Now I cannot answer your specific
question but I can give you the history of the chemtrails.
John: Well my question I would add to it a
little bit if I understand correctly, and please correct me
if I am wrong, SF6 is actually one of the elements or chemicals
that affect global warming. I guess it is the most effective
way to perpetrate global warming if it were man-made, is that
L. Moret: Well, I have no doubt that there
may be very valid evidence to support what you are saying. It
does explain more about the purpose of HAARP. That would all
be tied to HAARP to accelerate global warming and --
Dr. Parker: Excuse me, we are going to come
to the end of the hour and I want to make sure that both of
you have -- Leuren is mentioning a very important point about
the HAARP program. John, when the HAARP program went into effect,
they put a HAARP in Arizona, for that purpose, for SF6 --
John: Did they really?
Dr. Parker: Yes, and that was the change, as
Leuren is putting out, by the beta wave of the brain.
John: I would be interested if you could address
Dr. Parker: [1:27] This is Parker's Pathways.
Dr. Winn Parker, February 3rd, 2007. We have as our guest Leuren
Moret who has done some exquisite expose on deteriorated uranium
and other facets of the contamination of our environment and
the chemtrails and the discussion of HAARP. I wanted to just
give a few lines from an interview
Piro, the FBI agent who debriefed Saddam Hussein following
his capture in December 2003. The transcript from that interrogation
by Mr. Piro was, "Mr. Piro: The folks he needed to reconstitute
the program are still there." Mr. Pelley, who was part
of the 60
Minutes interview of George Piro, said, "What weapons
of mass destruction did he intend to pursue once he had the
opportunity." Mr. Piro answer: "He wanted to pursue
all the WMD's. He wanted to reconstitute his entire
WMD program." Mr. Kelley, "And that is, what? Chemical,
biological, and eventually nuclear?" and the answer from
Mr. Piro is "Yes." And he elaborated "What nuclear
meant?" was what we are discussing on Parker Pathways today
and what Leuren is bringing out. I just want to put that on
the table because a lot of people have been misguided in terms
of the incredible microbiological new bacteria that were 6,000
times stronger than Anthrax. The concept of a virus in bioterrorism
that was to be unleashed across the world." [Editor's Note:
Please see Chapter
12 of my Mission of Conscience
Bush Cabal Resurgence, Bin Laden-Hussein Fakery, and Making
the Next Terror Prediction" According to Joe Vialls,
Dr. James Fetzer, Al Jazeera, and other sources, Saddam Hussein
was killed the night of 7 April by a bomb dropped by a B-1 pilot,
identified as Capt. Chris Wachter. Hence, the FBI interrogation
was very likely a propaganda exercise that used a Saddam Hussein
double to make statements that would help to justify America's
invasion of Iraq]. And the deteriorated uranium concept, which
is by the way part of the contractors who are in Iraq right
now, building these chlorine factories which cover four acres
at a spot and for the use of chlorine with the DU. Leuren, did
you have a chance to reflect just a few minutes before we go
to the next break on John's call, do you have anything to add
to his answer?
Leuren Moret: [4:10] Well, this is all part
of depopulation. So let me just read another paragraph.
Dr. Parker: Yes, of the memorandum. Memo 200.
Moret: Well this is part of my paper. It is
after the memo. "According to an NSC spokesman, that is
National Security Council spokesman at the time of Dr. Kissinger's
comments. "The United States shared the view of former
World Bank president Robert McNamera that the population crisis
is a greater threat to U.S. national security interests than
nuclear annihilation. In 1975 Henry Kissinger established a
policy planning group in the U.S. State Department Office of
And the U.S. population is as much a target. [5:10 start of
the ad break, 8:12 end of break].
Dr. Parker: This is Parker's Pathways, Dr.
Winn Parker, and I wanted to mention that in the physiology
of deteriorated uranium, the assumption is that the behavior
of the deteriorated uranium in the body is identical to that
of natural uranium. That is the basic premise in medical physiology
circles. On the average we have got about 90 micrograms of uranium
in the human body and what is considered by the United Nations
position, which we are going to talk about tomorrow, that their
normal intakes of water and food and air we just normally take
this in and about 66% of uranium is found in the skeleton of
the human body, and 16% is in the kidneys, and 10% is in other
tissues. I take issue with how the physiology works on that.
I feel it is far worse than that because I have been on the
front lines of these kinds of activities in the human body in
measuring them, and I can tell you right now that the behavior
of deteriorated [uranium] in the body is not identical to that
of natural uranium. And then the other fact that we are going
to get into, Leuren, is all the aspects of what she is calling
radio-nanotubes, and the nanotubes of single cells. Permeable
membranes, which is a very important subject. What I would like
to have you do, Leuren, if you would be kind enough to finish
reading your very important statements that you were starting
to read about McNamera and human depopulation. That is an important
piece of work that you have done there. Would you be kind enough
to finish reading that?
L. Moret: Yes, I am going to just read that
again, because it has sort of faded out. This is extremely important.
According to an NSC
spokesman at the time, this was in 1974, the United States shared
the view of former World Bank president Robert McNamera that
the population crisis is a greater threat to U.S. national security
interests than nuclear annihilation. In 1975 Henry Kissinger
established a policy planning group in the U.S. State Department's
Office of Population Affairs. By 1979 depopulation was the top
priority of U.S. national security policy, as outlined in the
national security paper, Global 2000 written by Rockefeller
contractors. These are people who actually work for the Rockefellers.
Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew
Brzezinski, Gen. Alexander Haig, and Ed
Muskie for President Carter. The Rockefellers brought the
idea of depopulation to the U.S. from England in the 1920's,
and with the Bush and Harriman families are the elite of the
American eugenics movement. The sole purpose of this policy
of scientific racism continues to be for the reduction of the
world's population by two billion people through war, famine,
disease and any other means necessary. So this is a war against
the global population and the American population, and it has
been engineered in the U.S. by the Rockefellers and their contractors.
And the Rockefellers serve the City of London. Now, in the October
28th online edition of Nature, Nanotechnology, which
is the science journal published by Nature, the first direct
images of carbon nanotubes entering cells were captured and
presented in this paper. And it says, "For the first time
scientists have directly imaged carbon nanotubes entering and
migrating within human cells. And the images are actually nanoparticles,
carbon nanotubes which entered the nucleus where the DNA is
located of human cells within 48 hours of exposure. And this
is exactly what nanoparticles of depleted uranium do. And our
soldiers have reported being sick within 48 hours of exposure
on the battlefield or wherever they were exposed. Determining
as a result that whether the nanotube caused cell death depends
on the dose and exposure time." The work published in the
October 28th online edition of the Nature, Nanotechnology, namely
to better ways of determining carbon nanotube toxicity to humans.
And whether it is carbon nanotubes or depleted uranium nanotubes,
I am sorry, nanoparticles, these are the most dangerous biological
toxins of all. Now, what is very interesting Winn, and you can
explain this, in February, no let's see, oh this is Nanoletters
2007. So this just came out, it was just published. Nanotube
Radio, and the Department of Physics at UC Berkeley and the
materials science division at the Lawrence Berkeley National
Lab, which is where the Manhattan Project started, have actually
put out these press releases proving that they were able to
turn a carbon nanotube into an antennae, making it a nanotube
radio which could receive and transmit radio signals and radio
frequencies. And you can go to their web site and actually listen
and watch a video clip of a carbon nanotube receiving the electromagnetic
signals of a song, and then actually transmitting it so that
you can hear it. Now what would be the purpose of turning nanotubes
into an antennae, Winn?
Dr. Parker: I have two answers for that. On
the October 28th Nature, what was the year on that?
L. Moret: This year. 2007.
Dr. Parker: That is what I thought.
L. Moret: Just a couple of months ago.
Dr. Parker: I know. Because the reason I am
asking that is because the Russians have suppressed
L. Moret: You have to remember that the Soviet
Union and the U.S. Government were secret partners on the HAARP
Dr. Parker: I know, I know.
L. Moret: We should have a program on that,
because I have traced the full development from the Soviet Union
and the woodpecker signal to the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory.
They were the secret partner agency.
Dr. Parker: That's right. And they did that
up in Alaska.
L. Moret: Through HAARP in Alaska. It is also
in Norway and in -- not Greenland -- but Newfoundland.
Dr. Parker: The one they put up in Arizona
is an extraordinary situation.
L.Moret: That's part of Los Alamos. And this
is the images of the nanoparticles came out October 28th. The
press releases for this nanotube radio came out October 31st.
They are absolutely related.
Dr. Parker: You know, right. This whole system
is dependant on the antennae, and if you have the antennae,
you can measure out the nanoparticle and its activity. One of
the major processes that I have talked about on other Parker
Pathway shows, which I called synthetic biologies, the rebuilding
of human beings. And the development of the use of these nanoparticles
with magnetic fields that have to do with making synthetic enzymes
for the new humans. I haven't got into it as much as I should
have, but I could do about two shows on this. In fact, I am
thinking here re-inviting you back on when I do that show because
what is going to happen is the measurement of the enzyme systems
of the red cell of the human body, it carries the oxygen that
is necessary for the human being to live. The blood-brain barrier
transfer of all the purpose chemicals of the hydroacetic acids
and the fluorides and the bromides and the deteriorated uranium
as part of its carrier will send a signal by the antennae to
the hippocampus of the brain to change the hormones to give
a different thought process to the human being. That is project
one. That is going on right now. Number two, the Japanese have
sophisticated the nanoparticle to the point where they can change
the gland system of a human being 700 feet away by using the
antennae process of the nanoparticle and also everything you
eat and everything you think can be set to the nanoparticle's
magnetic frequency. So right now in gibbons,
you can read the thought processes of gibbons by this process,
and there are some human experimentations that are going on
in France, and we can pick up on this after the other end of
the break and get your comments on the radio frequency system.
Leuren Moret, our guest. [20:00 beginning of the break].
Dr. Parker: [23:24 end of the break] This is
Parker Pathways, Dr. Winn Parker, February 23rd, 2007 ,
and our guest Leuren Moret who is actually giving us some valuable
information on deteriorated [depleted] uranium. I want to finish
up real fast before we go to your next question, Leuren, but
one of the things about the antennae and the wiring of the cell,
the whole point of the antennae at the moment, is to also give
instructions to the nanotubes that are inside the red cell and
the white cell of the human body and what is happening here
on another project that has not made the world yet, but it has
to do with the wiring which you have alluded to. The cells are
actually wired to the new system of how to control the human
body and human thought and not only that, but change the glandular
structure of the human being as the eventual goal. And then
the third project that is scooting around here is called, is
called under what is called the field of transmutation and essentially
what is going on is that there are particle collisions, and
these particle collisions of the enzyme systems are getting
into these new projects with these nanotubes in such a way to
make a whole new element. So what you have here, what we have
always thought about as colliders, to be able to fire at thousands
of miles an hour particles together and create new elements
is now being controlled by the antennae in the nanotube chemistry
in such a way to create whole new human cells to trigger the
gene system which will in turn will wire the cell which in turn,
if you will, facilitate the goals of the social planners. So
I have kind of short-handed this whole thing to try to answer
that question that you posed to me. Go ahead Leuren.
L. Moret: Yes, well this is a major part of
this. I was reading about the Google co-founders, Larry
Page and Sergey
Brin, and on November 14th there was a article that Larry
Page was going to be married, and I said I just was glancing
over it when I suddenly saw that Vice President, former Vice
President Al Gore, a senior advisor at Google had been invited
to the wedding, which was in early December. So I immediately
started investigating Google and this is what I found out. Larry
Paige and Sergey Brin are both Zionists, and they both married
women who were involved in biological information systems. When
I investigated Sergey Brin who got married six months before
Larry Page, I discovered that he married Anne
Wojcicki and she had started a personal genetics start up
company. She is the founder of 23andMe,
a venture based in Mountain View which promises to make sense
of customers genetic information. "Genetic testing for
consumers is a field with growth prospects, and Wojcicki wants
to solve medical mysteries and unite the world with DNA."
But it is controversial. For instance, imagine if it became
standard practice for couples to take genetic tests before marriage.
Now when I investigated as soon as she married Sergey Brin she
received millions of dollars from Google in her fund-raising
she also received money from Genentech, Mohr
Davidow Ventures, New
Enterprise Association, and others. But listen to her background,
because it must have popped out and was very controversial.
Their marriage, because it is not just two people getting married,
it is much more than that. And what her background turns out
to be is Anne Wojcicki cofounded 23andMe in 2006 to enable individuals
to get access to their genetic information. Prior to starting
23andMe, and "23" by the way is the number of chromosomes
on the DNA, Anne spent 10 years investing in health care companies.
Bingo. Graduated with a BS in biology from Yale. Yale is where
all of this garbage is coming from. Anne she did her molecular
biology she researched at the National Institute of Health (NIH)
which is where the eugenics program is being engineered from.
The Weizmann Institute,
which is the City of London connection, and Israel, and UC San
Diego which gave her access to the biggest U.S. Navy base. And
the Navy is heavily invested and involved in depopulation. So
isn't that interesting.
Dr. Parker: Oh yes,and it comes under the heading
L. Moret: Bio-banking and now they are moving
Google headquarters to Israel.
Dr. Parker: Yes, I know. We are going to come
back on the break and talk about this. [30:38 start of the break]
Dr. Parker: [33:21 back from the break] This
is Parker's Pathways. I am Dr. Winn Parker, and our guest is
Leuren Moret, who is exposing the population control, social
planner concept for world domination. And that is what I call
it, world domination, and the deteriorated uranium concept.
Leuren I just wanted to make a quick comment about how correct
you are about this. There is a company called LabVantage,
and LabVantage is a highly supported global investment company
that is centered out of England when they made this declaration
last week about cutting off various care to various people at
a certain age and developing this whole process of having specimens.
But this is in the public domain. What we are talking about
right now there is something else going on right here. What
is going on, and it has been going on for three years, is the
sophistication that has come from lots of research over a period
of time to collect semen and urine and blood samples from people
all around the world to put them into a depository and registry
that is very private. This is called the biological-synthetic
depository. And what they are doing is separating these samples
with other species for the development of the new human. Because
when new diseases come up with new types of gene changes, and
what are called gene signatures, on the genomes of the various
species on the earth, they will be able to have this select
group of people to be the ones who survive in the New World
Order. And right now there are 38,000 cancer patients so far
in this system and they are run by an automation process that
is by six computers that are mind computers equal to 4,000 people's
minds. They control what is called the Tecan,
and the Tecan is a company which has these liquid-handling work
stations that develop and isolate out the particulate matter
of the proteins from the serum and the blood cells. And also
in urine for getting subsets, and the idea is to get these subset
protein systems from at least a half a million people. And I
have always asked why the half a million people, and of course
the answer I get I already figured I would get, of course that
is a sacred people. And so these investments that you are talking
about are not only real, but they are going on. It is all part
of the scheme of the global warming concept to have the threat
out there for the reason for doing all these things.
L. Moret: Exactly.
Dr. Parker: And so you have 38,000 cancer cases
that are now registered in this close to secret program that
you are alluding to on the investment. It is called Janus. And
I appreciate the idea of your interview time for me to expose
this along with your expose because it is quite real. The real
war that we are fighting is for our own survival, and the concept
which I call life and death issues that are very important.
And there is a project that is related to this that has to do
with uranium contaminants, and I am not going to be telling
you something that you don't already know. But there always
have been blames (spelling?) for having uranium from rocks and
it is from natural processes, which it is, or something. The
uranium mining and all the rest of it. But the nuclear facilities
and the concept of the waste disposal system is very much a
part of the protection sequence of gene change. The uranium
as itself is really a water-soluble uranium. Uranal ion. And
this uranium atom is really linked to the two hydrogen and the
two oxygen atoms in all -- by double bonds, so when this fluoride
system, hydro system connects, it adds a third bond. Now if
the uranal ion is to react with any other substance, it is going
to change it into a different insoluble ion. So that can be
filtered out. But the uranium binds to oxygen. The bonds that
form -- and these are twenty five percent stronger, a typical
double bond -- so what is being researched, in this process
of the genetic change, is something which is affectionately
called an organic molecule which is called a macrocycle.
And these macrocycles can fold in half to form really a structure
like a chelator.
A chelator being a molecule that has jaws, that can pick up
-- it looks like jaws, that is why it is called a Greek word
"ke" (spelling?) -- chelate -- and the thing is so
it is picking up all these metal ions and coming in the other
way. And it can go between the cobalt ion that will combine
with the water soluble ural ion, which is the uranium, and so
what is happening here is that this macro-molecule is dissolved
in water. And it leaves this one oxygen-protruding ion. And
so because this macrocycle molecule is destroyed by water, it
can't be used to remove the uranium from the contaminated water.
L. Moret: Oh.
Dr. Parker: So what happens is --this they
believe, this is all out of the public domain, by the way, but
they are finding that if you take the substances and transform
this dissolved ural ion into an insoluble compound, you are
achieving something that has never occurred in research at the
bench. So what has to happen is to create a new pathway,
just like Parker's Pathway show, that is one of the reasons
why I named it that way, for having the uranium removed from
the body. So what you have, there are only three ways you can
approach this, is that you have to deal with the contamination
water of our water supply on the earth and create a new macrocycle
molecule to loosen the bonds of the ions that are containing
the plutonium. So what is going on here is not only the concept
of the nanotube being involved in the antennae signal, it is
also the purpose of changing the ural ion of the uranium in
the body itself.
L. Moret: I see.
Dr. Parker: That's the big secret.
L. Moret: That's the big secret. Now, let me
explain to you the difference between ingesting uranium, for
instance, in drinking water, and inhaling it in the form of
depleted uranium particles. And then I want your comment. This
is the most interesting interview I think I have ever done --
Dr. Parker: We have about twelve minutes.
L. Moret: Because I am learning so much. And
I hope the audience is too, and you too.
Dr. Parker: Oh, this is the top of the line
here. This kind of information. The top of the line.
L. Moret. Yes. Now when uranium is dissolved
in water, and there are many populations that have lived in
areas where there are high levels of uranium in the drinking
water, in the ground water. And it doesn't seem to affect the
population. The reason is when you drink it, or if it is contaminating
food, the particles are highly charged and they attach themselves
to the organic material passing through the gut. So they are
pretty much excreted efficiently. The difference between depleted
uranium particles that are formed at very, very high temperatures,
hotter than the sun even, 3,000 - 5,000 degrees centigrade is
that they form very insoluble high temperature oxides, and the
depleted uranium when it burns actually forms a radioactive
poison gas. As it cools or quenches it forms nanoparticles of
these high temperature depleted uranium oxides which are round,
hollow spheres or Christmas Tree balls. And so the density of
uranium metal is over 19, but the density of high temperature
depleted uranium or ceramic oxides is less than one. The nanoparticles
remain permanently suspended in the atmosphere and they are
kept suspended by Brownian
Motion or air molecules bumping into them and keeping them
suspended. They become incorporated in atmospheric dust, and
they circulate around the world within two or three weeks. Within
seven to nine days they are carried from the battlefields of
Afghanistan, and Iraq, and Yugoslavia to Britain, and we have
continuous air monitoring at the Aldermaston Nuclear Weapons
Facility in England, which proves the U.S. and Britain constantly
grid-bombed and carpet-bombed Iraq from 1998 when the database
begins through 2003. Now this is causing global pollution. All
during atmospheric testing all the nuclear states only released
the equivalent of 40,000 Hiroshima bombs into the atmosphere.
But since 1991 what the U.S. and Britain have admitted
to using, which is much less than what they have actually used,
is the equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki bombs. So they have released
ten times more. This is causing a global diabetes epidemic which
the diabetes, the World Health Organization, projected will
increase ten times by the year 2030. Cancer is just the tip
of the iceberg. Hypertension, Alzheimer's Disease, Lou Gehrig's
Disease, all these neurological and neuromuscular diseases are
the types of diseases that have the greatest increase. Cancer
has the lowest increase. So it is only the tip of the iceberg.
So what comment do you have about the different physiological
effects of the dissolved soluble uranium which occurs in nature
as compared to these artificially produced depleted uranium
Dr. Parker: That is why I made the comment
in the last hour of Parker's Pathways that the going theme is
the behavior of the deteriorated uranium is the same as that
of the natural uranium, and I don't agree with that.
L. Moret: It is not.
Dr. Parker: Because the kidney pathology of
the human is really measured by the amount of enzyme change
that can occur similar to dialysis. This is why I always maintain
that if you have chloramine as a secondary disinfectant in the
water, you are picking up the other particle on the nitrogen
ion to the bromide, haloacetic
and iodocetic acid, and this attaches to the ural ion which
is creating this whole new gene signal. The gene signals are
created by what are called the filtration kidney rate, which
in order to determine the amount of deteriorated uranium in
the urine from the human, you are using the ratio of the uranium
235 to uranium 238. So what you are doing is measuring the amount
of protein enzyme change that is triggering the pancreas to
cause diabetes type I. And that has been totally hand-cold documented,
that hasn't reached the public either in terms of the disaster
that we face.
L. Moret: It has been very hidden. All through
atmospheric testing you find someone who will admit who worked
in the nuclear weapons program that depleted uranium is even
in atomic bombs. They all deny it. They never measured
Dr. Parker: Well one of the comments I want
to make is about the idea of passing through the intestine and
the concept. I don't quite agree with that because I have a
whole series of enzyme and conceptual ideas of fecal measurements
that have been made in Russia and Germany and in Iran, by the
way, who is researching this extensively.
L. Moret: Oh Good.
Dr. Parker: And that is how you get the real
use of deteriorated uranium intake in the human body is to measure
it in the feces.
L. Moret: Oh.
Dr. Parker: So the feces have a natural uranium
flow. My question is how the body has already accommodated the
contamination of radioactivity to give us cancer, so that is
why the percentage of the 66% in the skeleton figure of uranium
is close but it needs to be taken more seriously because when
you go in and drink the water in any form, even the bottled
water, when I have to put the date on the bottled water, I was
responsible for that, and when you look at your bottled water
you see a date on there. Well you can thank me for that and
buy me a cup of coffee some day that has got real water in it,
but the thing comes down to the fact that is the most important
thing that could have happened, because we are just at the touching
of the base of this. You change the intestinal quality of the
absorption. You do not have a pass-through. You have a change
which occurs with the chemistry of the nanotube in the cell
to create another protein, which is why the Japanese have come
up with this antennae, the nanotube measuring of a blood cell
memory 700 feet away from the antennae. Now what they are after
is to have that global satellite click on and follow your very
hormone thought process.
L. Moret: That's right.
Dr. Parker: And that's what they are after.
Well, the whole thing is on the fecal measurements on the natural
uranium can be as high as 500 micrograms a day. That is the
average that we have been finding. You realize that if you gave
500 micrograms a day of natural uranium to be extrapolated to
a mouse, a cancer mouse specially bred for lymphoma that humans
have, the human gene for lymphoma researched in a clinical laboratory
rat. They will die in fifteen minutes and get cancer.
L. Moret: Yes.
Dr. Parker: That is reality. And of course what it
does to the lungs is unexplainable. That is why I was upset
at the Beryllium
story last night on the national news about Livermore Labs.
What a joke.
L. Moret: What a joke.
Dr. Parker: We have five more minutes left
of Parker's Pathways, and we will have you with closing comments.
[51:20 start of break...54:37 end of break]
Dr. Parker: This is Parker's Pathways. Dr.
Winn Parker, and we have Leuren Moret, who is a geoscientist,
and discussing deteriorated uranium. We will have her closing
comments in a minute. I just wanted to mention that the concept
of getting rid of uranium itself from the body is really an
intravenous transfusion of isotonic 1.4% sodium bicarbonate.
And I have always found that in this kind of setting, that sodium
bicarbonate is also used for the process of, sort of the suggestion
of the sodium bicarbonate for the change of the PH of the blood.
What really has not been discussed here today is the concept
of the PH change as a result of the magnetism of the nanotube.
And that is a whole world in itself, and how the gene changes
occur as a result of the PH of the blood. And I just wanted
to mention that. Number two, very quickly, on the North American
Union meeting in New Orleans in February, which is this month,
when the representative of the United States President and Mexico
and Canada take the United States off the maps, it will be called
the North American Union. The concept of the control of what
is called "following conflict," the "following
conflict" paragraph of the new nation called the North
American Union will have exclusive exceptions with United Nations
Preambles on deteriorated uranium. I just thought I would bring
that in, because that is your life and death paragraph, folks.
Who controls your life and death. I talked about it on other
Parker's Pathways, and it is on the medical consent form on
the new one that are being printed, with United Nations paragraphs
on them. Leuren, I would like for the listeners to know how
they can get ahold of you. And if you have any materials that
you would like them to know about please tell our audience how
to get ahold of you and your materials.
L. Moret: Yes, I have a program for public
access TV. It is called Global Nuclear Coverup. And I have 35
one hour DVD's formatted just for public access. They are about
the nuclear technologies and how they are impacting the global
health of the environment and global public health. And these
are extremely important. I am getting them in cities around
the U.S. A citizen in a city can contact the public access station
and arrange for them to be shown in their city. They are interviews,
they are presentations, these are by top radiation scientists
who are honest. And they are also documentaries and things like
that. It is the most popular series on the Berkeley public access
station. And the DVD's are $5.00 each to cover the cost of reproducing
and formatting them for public access. You can contact me either
through Dr. Winn Parker or my email is Leurenmoret@yahoo.com.
And I really want to thank you Winn for this very, very interesting
Dr. Parker: Oh, I thank you very much for your time
to be here, and we are going to have to have you back again.
And my email is firstname.lastname@example.org. And support Republic Broadcasting
Network, God Bless America, and thank you Leuren and remember
we are all human beings that need to support each other.
That is the result of mutual cooperation.
Wars by Janet Phelan