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Interview Transcript
Editor's Notes this is a "rush" transcription
provided
by William B. Fox, Publisher, America First Books
that is reasonably but not totally accurate for
my own research purposes.
I have marked any transcription problems in brackets
Transcript first posted 21 Oct 2012
Narrator: [3:07] Welcome to the Gulf of Mexico
Blue Plague Update with Living Light Network host Michael Edward,
who reminds us all, wherever the Gulf Wind blows and the Gulf
water flows, and here is Michael with the latest Gulf Update.
Michael Edward: Well welcome once again, Friday,
Blue Plague Update. I am Michael Edward, it is a privilege to
be your host. Today is very important. I always say that every
week, I know, but I feel that this is the most important show
not just for Gulf residents, but for everybody in North America,
even in Europe about detoxification. We have got some detox
problems going on right now. It is not just the Gulf. It is
not just bacterial and chemical toxins coming from the Gulf.
Now we have our problem coming in the jet stream, and apparently
some people are saying it is already here with the nuclear contamination
and such. So we have got a lot of things that we have to face
at this moment. Today we have two people who are beyond just
knowledgeable. We have got Dr. Mark Sircus and Dr. Gabriela
Segura to discuss how we can naturally, with things that are
naturally available to us, from foods to supplements and things
like clay, very common sense but well proven things to help
us detox from everything that is coming in the air, everything
that is in the water, in our soils now. If there is ever a more
important time to have a broadcast with two people who know
so much about this, this is the time for the broadcast. We are
also going to be doing something that I have never done before.
We are going to have three continents tied together. I am in
North America. Dr. Mark Sircus is in Brazil, and we have Dr.
Gabriela Segura who is in Toulouse, France. So we are going
to be joining together three continents here, if we can get
all of our communications working correctly. And right now we
are having a problem with that, so I need to go off on the side
here. Actually no, now we do have it connected. OK, well, that
is like I said, we are spanning three continents on this show.
We do have, Dr. Mark is in here. And that is fantastic, we will
get started there with that. Just want to mention something,
if you can go and buy a book that will make an unbelievable
difference in your life of reading it, it is called Transdermal
Magnesium Therapy. My wife and I have been reading
it. She has just finished with it, and I am still half way through,
and this is written by Mark Sircus, one of our guests today.
Let me tell you something. I learned so much out of that book,
and I thought I knew a lot about naturopathic and allopathic
things, because I use that with all the animals and I have been
looking at all this and studying it as much as I can as a layman
since 1992. I learned so much out of this book about how magnesium
deals with so many different things with this. We are talking
about osteoporosis and diabetes and everything else. It is this
deficiency in magnesium that is such a cause of so many problems.
So all I can say is, if you can afford to go buy a book, this
is one you need to get. It is called Transdermal Magnesium
Therapy, and it is by Mark Sircus, OMD. He also has it
on his site, and on our chat we have the links to International
Medical Veritas Association, which is what Dr. Mark is behind.
You can find that link real easy if you are not on our chat.
Just go to IMVA.info, and go
on there and read what Dr. Mark has written, not just with detoxification
which is our main subject today, but he has just come out also
with another new ebook, I believe it is, and he will correct
me if I am wrong when he gets on here in just a minute, about
pediatrics. He calls it Humane Pediatrics. You need
to read what this man has written. This is a practical approach
to how we should be taking care of ourselves. In his book Transdermal
Magnesium Therapy, I have never seen a book reference so
much, which is impressive to me. He has got so many references
in there. So this is not just some guy saying, "Oh, you
should do this, you should do that." It is so well documented
and referenced. I can't say enough about him. I am going to
get him on now. Our subject today is "detoxification essential
knowledge." And that is what -- we are going to have two
hours of absolute essential knowledge on detoxifying, not only
for the typical things that are in our air and in our water,
and even in our soil now, the typical toxins that are there
from mercury to aluminum and everything else, but now we have
some fallout, some nuclear problems with Japan. The jet stream
is bringing it to North America. So I think this is the most
critical time that all my listeners, you need to listen to what
is going to be said in the next two hours. If you are not able
to stay with the program it is archived after the program is
over right on blogtalkradio.com/wvp.
So here we go. Dr. Mark, you made it, you figured out this wonderful
Skype mess again. Welcome. [9:56]
Dr. Sircus: [Laughter] Oh yes.
Edward: It is always a challenge, all this
technical stuff. Like I said, this is amazing. We are going
to have Dr. Segura on here with you, and she is in France. We
are going to span three continents with this show, which I think
is really amazing.
Dr. Sircus: When is she coming on.
Edward: As soon as she can get on [laughter].
Dr. Sircus: OK. [A two second silence]. So
where do we start?
Edward: Well, you know I think what is on everybody's
mind the most right now is there is a lot of fear.
There is that spirit of fear going around. People aren't getting
proper news about what is happening in Japan. I know that you
have written, I am part of your newsletter, and you have written,
oh gosh, four IMVA special articles about it within the past
week. So why don't you start there, so that you can knock down
the myths and the craziness that is going on of people buying
things that might not help them with this. Just go over some
of the things that you have been putting out in your IMVA newsletter
dealing with nuclear fallout contamination. And let's just start
there, because I think that is number one on everybody's mind.
[11:22]
Dr. Sircus: Well,
the first thing I think is very important to get clear in our
minds, do we trust the media and do we trust the United
States Government and the World Health Organization and the
Japanese power industry and the Japanese government? Do we trust
these people to tell us the truth?
Edward: I think we all know that answer. [laughter]
Dr. Sircus: Yes. Everybody who is listening
answers that probably in a different way. I am not sure of your
audience. But the, I will be writing today, I have probably
written about six essays since Sunday just on the nuclear thing,
and there is one coming out tomorrow. One just came out, but
the one I am working on now will highlight a little bit of the
twist, lets call it the twisted nature of the official thinking
about toxicity. And this goes for chemical toxicity, heavy metal
toxicity, and especially for radiation toxicity. Now there is
a Dr. Chris Busby, he is a physicist in England. A few years
ago he forced the British government to release under their
Freedom of Information Act the radiation levels over their nuclear
plants just at the period when Bush went in there and bombed
Iraq back to the Stone Age with depleted uranium weapons, which
is a standard weapon that we use, the United States Government
uses now. Different armaments have that. Basically the Army
manual for the depleted uranium weapon -- depleted uranium means
slightly weakened uranium, it is uranium, but a little
bit less potent than your normal full strength. They use it
because it is very heavy. It is heavier than lead. You fire
it at an armament with this material, at another tank or whatever,
and it just cuts through plating, steel plating like butter.
Like through soft butter. So it is very effective and the military
services love the weapon. But the instructions for their use
is it is safe. No problem. You can sit on it, or can have the
armaments in your tank and can sit on it, and you can blow up
another tank, a couple of hundred meters away, and even pull
up next to that blown up tank. Maybe even sleep right next to
it, should be no problem because this stuff is totally safe.
So this is a radiation weapon. Now Busby -- so, you know, it
is safe to sit on, meaning right next to you, safe to sleep
next to where you have already burned, you have already exploded
a shell, now Busby 2,500 km away in England,
they got the information, and after this, they used all the
"safe" material, they found that the radiation levels
2,000 something kilometers away from the battlefield went up
nine times. The average person in certain parts of
England, there were different contamination areas depending
on the latitude, but had absorption of 26,000 particles per
person.
Edwards: Wow.
Dr. Sircus: I am not sure of that number. That
is 26 million or 26,000, I can look that up during a break or
something. But a lot. Now of course this was not reported at
all. No danger. It is safe to sit on. It is safe to be right
next to an exploded shell. But radiation levels and particle
contamination was registered 2,000 kilometers away. This stuff
has a half life of over a billion years. These people, including
the Queen of England who is one of the biggest owners of uranium
mining in the world, interestingly, won't say anything. It is
safe. It's no problem. So, so now today, officially -- officially
-- the first radiation from the first day of the accident has
hit the California coast. That is official news. It is on the
mainstream media. But don't worry about it. Don't worry about
it. It is not a problem. It is just not a problem. Of course
it is perfectly safe, even though the instruments can pick it
up, they don't think your cells will pick it up and mind it
at all. So this is an official from the, let's see, I'll
quote, "A diplomat who has access to radiation tracking
by the UN's Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty Organization told
the Associated Press in Vienna that initial readings show radiation
has in fact reached California," and UN was warning about
that yesterday. But don't worry, don't worry, go watch your
favorite TV program, and I wouldn't do anything. Maybe get drunk,
and you know, maybe, you know, mmmm.... [laughter]. Now, the
official story, a few thousand miles away, is what is happening
actually at the plant. And that question was asked of the federal
government of the United States in Washington, D.C. Representative
Michael
Burgess who is a Republican from Texas, asked "Are
we talking about radiation equivalent to a chest X-ray, a CAT
scan?" He asked Gregory
Jaczko, the Chairman of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
And the reply in front of everybody, was levels that would be
lethal within a fairly short period of time. He is saying that
at the plant itself, you hang out there for a brief time, you
are going to die. So these guys over there working there are
heroes. And Harold
Denton, the former senior official of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory
Commission, who was all over the Three Mile Island crisis, said
this is certainly far worse than Three Mile Island already.
So we are talking about there a very hot spot. And
from there, that is coming -- so it is recognized a
very hot spot -- now nuclear depleted uranium, you can
blow up a lot of it, and it is not a hot spot. So officially,
we are talking much worse than depleted uranium. But again the
official story is there is nothing to worry about. Now on this
show we can talk about that. I would tend to disagree, people
who distrust. So when they say it is not a problem, and it is
safe, do we trust them? We put fluoride in the water -- [18:34]
Edward: This is not depleted uranium, this
is a different kind of fuel. One of the reactors, at least they
have let it be known that this is MOX fuel which is much more
lethal when it comes to radioactivity.
Dr. Sircus: That is correct.
Edward: You are talking about, I understand
what you are doing. You are laying the groundwork, yes, they
say depleted uranium is just fine. And we know that's not true.
Just look at the birth defects all through the Mideast right
now, especially in Iraq. So there is with that. I have had many
friends that were in both the ridiculous so-called wars that
our country is involved in over there. They have got health
problems, unbelievable, makes agent orange look like it is nothing
at all compared to what most of they have and their friends
who are there. We are dealing with something that is not Chernobyl,
and lets just get to the bottom line here Dr. Mark, because,
you know, we are getting lied to. We are dealing with something
far worse than Chernobyl. That was one reactor, and that was
some of what some call iodine type reactor fuel. We are dealing
with nuclear fuel that is much, much more dangerous in these
four reactors, that basically are melting at this point.
That is what all the real sources outside of North America are
saying at this point. So, you know, the good old movie The
China Syndrome seems like it just might not be all that
much science fiction very soon. So what are we going to be faced
with? Well, it is not going to be good no matter what because
the jet stream brings everything right across from Japan and
it ends up in North America, just depending on where the jet
stream comes in and what it does when it goes over North America.
So we will be affected no matter what. Absolutely. And this
will be more than just a one time shot. It will be over a continuous
amount of time. There is no way for them to get in there and
cool these reactors to stop them from melting down. Outside
the U.S. all the news sources, the small ones, not part of the
mainstream media, are saying that. And they are interviewing
people who know. So here is our problem, Dr. Mark. What do we
do? What are some practical things, and what myths are there
out there about, that you know that are wrong, of how we should
not be doing certain things when it comes to toxins in air like
this. And yes, radioactivity is a toxin, and there is where
I really want to start with you. [21:38]
What happens when we breathe this fallout from radioactive substances
out of these reactors, and it comes to us, what does that do
to our body? How does it affect us? Why does it affect us? Does
it cling to metals within us? Or explain to people exactly what
happens when that is in the air. Then take your time and tell
us how we can actually protect ourselves.
Dr. Sircus: Well first of all we have to really
understand that radiation toxicity, the toxicity of radiation
inside the body is different from radiation outside
the body. Once it gets in through the water, through
food, or through breathing it in, or even through contact with
the skin, and it actually penetrates, then we already have another
level of toxicity. In fact, there is a Dr. Katsuma Yagasaki,
and years he ago he talked a lot about the problem with the
depleted uranium dust particles. But basically he said they
become tens of millions of times more hazardous once they enter
the lungs and into the living tissue. And of course probably
we will be talking later when the good doctor from France comes
on [Dr. GabrielaSegura] about the damage it does. I mean, you
can look at it from directly burning the cells. You take plutonium
and, you know, it just burns you. Burn some cells to smithereens,
and destroy and damage the DNA of cells around it. It is just
murder. It is like Jack the Ripper coming in and just opening
you up, and there is no way you are going to survive. You are
not going to survive one particle of plutonium. And there is
a lot of plutonium at this plant. A lot. A lot of plutonium
is mixed in with just about everything. So you are correct.
We are not dealing with depleted uranium, we are dealing with
something a quantum level more toxic.
Edwards: Absolutely.
Dr. Sircus: So you are going to have a lot
of production of free radicals, and free radical damage. When
you look at uranium toxicity it has both a radioactive toxicity
and a chemical toxicity. And the chemical toxicity
and the radioactive toxicity are similar. Same with
any heavy metal. They do certain types of damages to the cells
themselves. To the proteins. To the sulfur bonds that hold proteins
together or in a certain shape. So it is murder. So I think
we should begin, it is looking at the main parameters
that will help people think about what the situation actually
is. Is one, each individual has a particular nutritional status
in which they are going to confront the situation, which we
are talking about increasing levels of radioactivity. Your nutritional
status is very, very important. For instance, number one, iodine.
95% of the American population are deficient in iodine. [25:15]
Some very good doctors, including Dr. David Brownstein, who
is a friend of mine, who has written, and I, a book on iodine.
I have also on my site, my book on iodine. He has stated very
clearly that he has tested 5,000 of his patients, and 95% of
them are iodine deficient. And he has checked this out with
other professional associates of his throughout the country
and they have similar results. So if he is wrong, we are talking
about 90%, but we are talking just about the whole American
population. If you are iodine deficient, then you are going
to be more vulnerable, at least to one component of the radiation
that will eventually drop down in increasing quantities. We
don't know what quantities yet, but the iodine, radioactive
iodine, if you don't have a lot iodine in your system, the radioactive
iodine will take the place of regular iodine, and they will
flood into the thyroid gland, and give you thyroid cancer. And
it will flood into the breasts and the ovaries and the prostate
gland who also have concentrated iodine receptor sites, so the
radioactive iodine will go into these glands also. So now the
government is saying to people, "Don't take iodine. Wait
until the sirens go off."
Edward: Why would they say that? Are they really
saying that? [26:49]
Dr. Sircus: Yes, they are really saying that.
Because the American government, the protocol for the use of
iodine in radioactive situations is this: You take one massive
dose, 125 milligrams as the radiation cloud comes.
It is really from the old time when you expect a nuclear blast
in your neighborhood, and so if you are not killed right away,
then right away you take iodine, a big dose of iodine. It will
block out the penetration of radioactive iodine. But it is not
the situation we are going to be, it is going to be low level
chronic, possibly building with time. So it is a good idea to
start taking low levels of iodine tomorrow.
Unfortunately for many of your listeners it is going to be too
late because there has already been a panic, and people have
just wiped out iodine stocks. But the government should have
some. Many manufacturers will race it out even more. So you
start taking, let's say, 12 milligrams a day, every day. And
as the threat increases, you keep increasing
your dose. But if you are taking it for a week or two before
any real radiation comes your way, you have already brought
up the dose, the levels. So you do not need to take a massive
one time dose. But if you know it is going to be intense radiation
coming into your town, then you probably, if you had already
taken a running start, would be taking 50 milligrams a day.
But keep it that way. We need iodine. It helps. You use it to
treat cancer. So there is no reason to be afraid of it, especially
if you use a purified form, the nascent
form which I use. It is great for children. So the government
is totally, you know, they have got scrambled eggs in their
heads. [28:48]
Edward: Here is a question I have already got
from somebody dealing with the iodine. Health food stores are
sold out of nascent iodine. Organic iodine. Kelp products. So
what kind of alternatives, and they also mention about miso.
Dr. Sircus: We'll get to that.
Edward: Can you explain?
Dr. Sircus: Stay with the iodine. The iodine,
today, any type of iodine you can get your hands on, get your
hands on it, buy it, put it in your pocket and come home with
it. I will be publishing in one of my next posts on the situation
some material from a Dr. Miller who has done research and his
point is that even taking the iodine you can't drink, the stuff
you can buy for next to nothing at the drug store if there is
still any there, you can just paint it on different parts of
your body, and it gets absorbed very quickly.
Edward: Really?
Dr. Sircus: It will also provide a protective
effect. So the idea is to not overdose yourself and drink a
whole bottle of iodine, but to start taking it and increasing
the dosages as fast as feels comfortable to your body.
Edward: OK. Now I want to explain to listeners.
You have already written about this in pretty good detail on
your blog, so let me give where they can find that. I believe
you have had three of your, I call them the newsletters, with
your IMVA site on your blog. Let me give that so they can go
there and look at that. That's blog.IMVA.info.
Go there and look at what Dr. Mark has up in that blog, especially
about the iodine, and then you will understand everything he
is talking about right now. OK, I want to throw that in there.
It is not a cheap plug. It is information that is very important
for people, and you have put it very plainly and made it very
understandable for the average person, and that is why I want
to push people to read what you have written, Dr. Mark.
Dr. Sircus: Also, for the everyday person,
when you buy any kind iodine, unless it is in a pill form, any
kind of liquid iodine, you put it on your skin like a silver
dollar's size. And you watch. If you don't need any iodine,
if you have plenty of iodine in your body, it will sit there,
and it either will stay wet, or just won't absorb. It will stay
dark color for hours, or maybe even in the next day you will
wake up and can still see a color. But if your body is hungry
for iodine, you will see it get dry very quickly and start absorbing
very quickly. Next morning you won't see any of it. So the faster
it disappears, it is showing you, the body is like a sponge,
a dry sponge, it just sucks up the iodine quickly. So you do
not need to go to tests, you don't need to have any elaborate
blood tests, and monitor this, you just -- .
Edwards: So what you are saying is the iodine,
the reason for this, and I am trying to get as simple terms
as possible, so correct me if I am wrong, the reason that we
need iodine when it comes to radioactive fallout, or even for
other reasons too, because I know that even with detoxing from
the Gulf chemicals and bacteria problems that we have here,
iodine is also important. But the real reason, especially for
nuclear-type fallout is that the radioactive iodine, when we
breath it, when it is in our soil, and not very much time will
come through the food and things like that, if we don't have
enough iodine in our system, then the radioactive iodine will
come in faster. So it is a deficiency. If we are deficient then
in natural iodine in our bodies then the radioactive type from
the fallout will take its place, and boom, we have all of a
sudden got thyroid cancers and prostate cancers and everything
else. Is that correct?
Dr. Sircus: That is correct, and the same goes
for fluoride. Your fluoride in your drinking
water is more toxic, because fluoride is a halogen like iodine.
It also takes the place of iodine, so fluoride becomes more
toxic the more iodine deficient you are. The same with bromide
which is put in like white bread, and drugs have bromide. The
rocket fuel that is polluting half the water supplies in the
United States is a halogen. So there are many things that will
actually become more toxic and into the thyroid and other tissues,
just because of the lack of iodine. So you are absolutely correct.
It is very important. Radiation or no radiation it is important.
You can't go wrong. Everybody needs iodine to live.
Edward: OK. We should have it even if there
is not a radiation threat.
Dr. Sircus: Exactly.
Edward: It is something that is essential for
us. I am guessing then that a lack of it would affect our immune
system.
Dr. Sircus: Correct, correct, it is important
for all systems. Some systems need it more than others, like
the glands, especially the breasts, the ovaries and the prostate.
It is essential for metabolism.
Edwards: All right, so we know iodine with
this is important. If we don't have kelp, you have said, "Hey,
you can even go use the stuff you used for cuts, the good old
iodine you can't drink, and put it on your skin and we will
absorb some," so that is something I have never heard of.
That is all new to me. I always thought the good old "X"
and the Skull on the bottle meant that you couldn't really use
it for much of anything unless you had a cut. [35:21] So very
interesting news. All right, we know the importance of the iodine.
What else is there for detoxifying or whatever that is essential
in your book besides the iodine?
Dr. Sircus: Well, it is a good moment to notice,
recognize that after the iodine the government just jumps off
the cliff and just registers a blank. Nothing exists, basically,
to help. They have no recommendations. They have nothing to
say. The doctors are not trained for it. Their minds are closed
to anything beside the iodine. So they are a blank wall. Don't
worry, and anyway we don't have any answers for you except this
iodine which we don't want you to take.
Edward: But that is not true.[Laughter]
Dr. Sircus: What is not true?
Edward: No, it is not true that they don't
have answers. Look, I was in the military, and I went through
the training with nuclear disasters, OK?
Dr. Sircus: OK, and what else?
Edward: We knew about the iodine.
Dr. Sircus: What else?
Edward: That was part of the protocol.
Dr. Sircus: What else?
Edward: And let me tell you with the Canadian
government, I know this as well. In all the areas that are close
to nuclear reactors in Canada, the government has a government
supply for all citizens within a certain kilometer perimeter
of all nuclear reactors. They have iodine --
Dr. Sircus: And what else? And what else,
Michael? That's my point. Do they say is it just iodine and
they are blank about anything else. Is there anything else that
can help?
Edward: I am trying to remember. I remember
the iodine pills with the nuclear training. I know that there
were two or three other things, so bring me back to memory.
It was a lot of years ago [laughter].
Dr. Sircus: Well, actually, basically that
is it. They wash you down, decontamination. But they don't have
any real -- there is no protocol.
Edward: No, the iodine was the only thing.
It was pill form.
Dr. Sircus: Right, so my point is that is all
they offer. Now we are going to talk about, everything we are
going to talk about now is their blank wall about.
Edward: Great, great.
Dr. Sircus: And even they will say the iodine
is only good for the radioactive iodine. But how about the radioactive
cesium? How about the plutonium? How about the uranium? They
don't have any answers. But we do have answers, and
the list is not short. It is long. The second most important
thing, which is normally, there are actually three things, fourth,
on my top four items in my general, universal protocol. Let's
just talk about the top three, which is iodine, sodium bicarbonate,
and magnesium. And specifically magnesium chloride. Normally
magnesium is the number item in my protocol for everybody,
and we will talk about that in a minute. But in the case of
radiation, the number one spot gets taken over not by iodine,
because iodine is only good for protecting the thyroid from
one form of radiation. [38:22] So what goes into number
one place is sodium bicarbonate baking soda, Arm and Hammer's
Baking Sodium. Everybody who is listening to this broadcast
should go out after the broadcast and go buy 10, 20, 30, 40,
50 pounds of sodium bicarbonate. You will never regret--.
Edward: That much? [Laughter]
Dr. Sircus: Yes. You can get 50 pounds at Costco
for less than $50.
Edward: Really.
Dr. Sircus: It is the cheapest and one of the
strongest medicines in the world. If you inject it in the emergency
room or intensive care ward and you are not a doctor they will
lock you up. It is a legal medicine that is injectable.
Edward: Isn't part of Myers'
cocktail, isn't it?
Dr. Sircus: Well, modern ones, yes. Modern
people will be using bicarbonate in IVs. It comes in very handy,
but you have to really monitor what you are doing, because if
a person's blood not acidic, you can't put in too much bicarbonate.
So bicarbonate is a medicine if it is injected. Otherwise you
can just eat it right out of the box, legally. It is sold in
supermarkets. It tells you the maximum dosage. Or you can throw
it into your bath. Now if a radiation storm is coming down on
your town, the first thing you do is jump into a bath full of
sodium bicarbonate and full of magnesium salt. And a little
bit of sodium
thiosulfate, which has sulfur. There are different ways
of getting sulfur, we will talk about that later. Sodium bicarbonate,
you can use sodium bicarbonate to clean anything. You can use
sodium bicarbonate to make the body run better, to change its
PH and it will handle the radioactive toxicity in a different
way. It will eliminate it faster. Sodium bicarbonate you can
use it in the soil to clean uranium from the soil. This stuff
is strong stuff. The U.S. Army decades ago put it in one of
its manuals that you can use sodium bicarbonate to protect the
kidneys from uranium damage.
Edward: I don't remember that. Hunh!
Dr. Sircus: Yes, and the plutonium, it strikes
the lungs and the kidneys the worst. So if there is any, any
answer to survive one particle of plutonium, you can find that
in sodium bicarbonate. It is just, you know, just like the box.
You know, this mallet, this arm, you know, this muscled arm
with a mallet on it. It is that strong. It is industrial strength.
It is natural, meaning, you would have to eat the whole box
to, you know, have a toxic effect. Not quite, but I mean you
could put a pound, two pounds, three pounds in a bath tub, and
it is very protective.
Edward: How does it protect? Describe what
effect does that have with us in our body?
Dr. Sircus: Well, this is one of the few books
I would recommend people, of mine, read right away, because
it talks about the bicarbonate and also the magnesium. My book
on sodium bicarbonate. It is the only and first full medical
review in the world on the subject. And the subtitle is actually
Rich Man's, Poor Man's Cancer Treatment [42:06]. So
the book is oriented to treatment, mostly of cancer, but also
kidney disease and diabetes. It also helps a little with neurological
situations. Sodium bicarbonate has different effects. But its
main effect is to supplement our bicarbonate levels. The body
struggles every day in the stomach to produce sodium bicarbonate,
in the pancreas to neutralize the stomach acids, and also the
kidneys produce it to keep the blood in a very strict PH range.
Most people have turned to be acidic. Modern life, modern toxicities
have made us acidic. Coca cola, you drink a glass of coca cola
it is very acidic. The body goes acid, so all the cells are
kind of burning a little bit, and this is a little bit what
diabetes is all about, or pre-diabetes. The house starts burning
down from the acid. So nothing works very well, everything is
straining and struggling and the cells get more toxic. Everything
is a mess. You take sodium bicarbonate, and very quickly it
will neutralize acids in the body and bring the PH back to something
more normal. Now everything in the body, every physiological
process is PH-sensitive. When the PH changes into the acidic,
things don't work as well, the biological processes. When you
bring it back to alkaline,
and bicarbonate does that instantly and strongly, you change
things back into a healthy parameter. Things function better.
So bicarbonate is really a miracle thing. It has been used for
125 years, since Arm and Hammer started this whole thing. Even
back to the Egyptians different alkaline powders and things
like that. So it helps detoxify. It does it through the neutralization
of PH and of destroying acid. It is nutritional, meaning the
body needs it. So you are helping the body with something it
needs. It is not like an outside strange chemical or drug. It
works and it works instantly. They use it in emergency rooms
to save people's lives. So it is a good idea. There are a lot
to know about it. You can use it for colds. I use it to brush
my teeth. You can take it orally, and very importantly on my
site, from about two or three months ago people will see an
article
on glutathione and bicarbonate nebulization.
I would recommend people go out and cry and beg, go to a medical
supply houses, I believe you need a prescription to get a nebulizer
in the United States. Of course, here in Brazil you can just
can get them anywhere. Companies are not so strict about these
nebulizers. You can pretty much pick one up. I would get them,
I would go to my essay on that subject, and look at the companies.
There is a link to a company that sells capsules of glutathione
and sodium bicarbonate already mixed together. You break it
open, you put one or two in the nebulizer and nebulize it into
the lungs. Now this is a fantastic treatment for any kind of
problems in the lungs. Lung cancer, asthma, so when we have
toxicity of radiation, one of the main entrance points is in
the air, and into the lungs, and these particles get stuck in
the lungs, so it makes sense to treat the lungs directly with
glutathione. Glutathione is an enzyme that is produced inside
the body that its main job is to help the body get rid of heavy
metals, and nasty chemicals, and even radiation. It is an enzyme
that picks things up and carries it out of the body. So we get
depleted, but for many reasons, to include deficient magnesium
levels, deficient selenium levels are very critical for this
production. There are very few products you can take it orally.
You can use suppositories with glutathione for radiation emergencies.
Very effective, and nebulization, especially -- well not especially,
any kind of radiation contamination you want to treat the lungs.
This should be put on the front page of newspapers. The government
just step in to manufacturing plants of nebulizers. Put them
on 24 hour alert and production schedules. Get this stuff out
to the citizens who are most affected. You should be preparing,
even if the plant doesn't blow up for another three weeks, I
mean really blow up where -- and then they bury it, and even
then it is going to be too late, and radiation is going to be,
[people will be] going "Oh, we are so surprised levels
are now dangerous." What are we going to wait for? They
should do something. [47:33]
Edward: You are in Brazil. So I just got a
note saying that the Today Show, which I guess is NBC,
has been telling everybody don't take anything. And
that is today, apparently. So I don't know what the idea is.
Why would they not want to tell us? Well, I don't need to ask
you that question. I am kind of asking it myself. Why would
they deliberately not tell people how to very easily and practically
take care of ourselves with this, unless we are all supposed
to be in some sort of denial of some type. I have no idea, but
that is why it is important you are on this show. We need to
know what to do.
Dr. Sircus: As I said in the beginning of the,
the main question is do you trust the government or not? The
government and the industries behind them, whether it be the
bankers, or the military, or the chemical people, or the oil
people, or the pharmaceutical people, we have just covered a
big territory there, these people all make their livings by
killing or poisoning. The military gets into killing. I mean,
they will kill and they can claim responsibility for who they
kill. Everybody else, like in the old days, you could kill somebody,
I am talking about centuries ago, or thousands of years ago,
you could kill people two ways: with a sword, a spear, an arrow
or poison them. Now if you use a sword, or spear, or an arrow,
and there is anybody around, you can pretty much you can prove
who did it. When you poison somebody, then there is a doubt.
Nobody sees it. The poison goes in, and there is not a direct
line back to the source. So the advent of modern era starting
back with Heinz ketchup, and different chemicals they started
putting in the foods, a lot of people started making a lot of
money playing with poisons. Making money from poisons. It has
been a growth industry of incredible proportion in the last
120 years or so. And so now we live in a culture of monsters.
Medical monsters who believe in using poison.
Edward: True.
Dr. Sircus: And believe in saying that it is
very safe. It is very safe, the official policy of the United
States, the medical part of the government, it is totally OK
to inject ethyl mercury into six month old babies. It used to
be OK, the first day of life, with the hepatitis B vaccine.
They finally took that out in America, but of course here in
Brazil it is still in every birth dose. They think it is fine,
now mercury is up there with uranium. It is not quite as much
as plutonium in toxicity, but it is way up there with uranium.
Very deadly stuff. Now of course it is coming across from 5,000
miles in the Pacific. We don't have to worry about it. Even
when you concentrate it in an injection, and put it in a baby
it is safe! Man, it is safe! Relax, relax, it is not a problem!
Edward: The government says so, it must be
safe! [Laughter]
Dr. Sircus: This is the religion that we live
in today, that fluoride of course is safe when we know it is
not. The mercury in the teeth is safe when it is not. You know
when you pull a dental tooth with mercury in it, you can't throw
it in the garbage can legally. The dentist has to put it in
a special place. When it comes into the office it is marked
with the cross and bones. And then if you pull it out of a tooth,
it then has to be picked up by a special truck and stored, they
do something special to it.
Edward: But it is OK for it to be in our mouth.
[Laughter].
Dr. Sircus: Right, right. So how do you deal
with this kind of culture and mindset? You don't. These people,
they have already had it. It is a reason our civilization is
going to fail. It is the reason we have all these nuclear plants.
They are safe! We don't have to worry about all these
nuclear plants! You can live right next door to them!
Edward: Sure.
Dr. Sircus: And build your house right against
the nuclear wall of the plant! I mean, it is fine!
Edwards: [Laughter]. Well, that is what they
say. Look, we have got Dr. Gabriela Segura, she finally got
in here and we got connected. So I am just going to welcome
her in, and then you two just go at it. So, Gabriela?
Dr. Gabriela Segura: Hello.
Edward: Hi, great, yes, good afternoon here,
almost evening and late night for you. Thanks for getting in.
Dr. Segura: Yes, sorry I am late.
Edward: It is almost 11:00 at night your time,
but this is a great broadcast. We have three continents tied
together. You have heard that Dr. Mark Sircus is on there already
and I know you two really fall along the same line with things.
So here is how we are going to do this. We will continue with
Dr. Mark trying to explain the practical things that we can
do. And whenever you have got something to say, Gabriela, please,
chime in. OK?
Dr. Segura: OK. [53:08]
Edward: Put your hand up! [Laughter].
Dr. Sircus: Hello Dr. Gabriela! [Laughter].
Nice to meet you on the radio.
Dr. Segura: Hello. It is very nice to meet
you, finally. [Laughter].
Dr. Sircus: One thing that we both share in
common. We both recently written about, and I have quoted her
extensively in my
recent essay about MMS, which is called magical
mineral supplements. It is like going into a bee's nest, people
didn't like it at all.
Dr. Segura: I know. And you know, what most
people don't know is I wrote an article because one of my friends
almost died after taking MMS. Otherwise, I would not have looked
into it. I will research more about it. But she nearly died,
basically. We believe that she recovered because of the massive
amounts of vitamin C she took in the 24 hours after she was
in a toxic state. So yes, that is why I wrote that article,
that itself is dangerous. It doesn't matter if some people tolerate
it just fine. Some people obviously don't.
Dr. Sircus: So it is very clear on this radio
show that we do not recommend MMS for radiation exposure.
Edward: Definitely not! [Laughter].
Dr. Sircus: Would you concur doctor?
Edward: Or take it for anything!
Dr. Sircus: Well, I wouldn't go that far.
Edward: Some people had bad reactions, so that
is just what is going on in the Internet.
Dr. Sircus: I don't discount all the testimonies
of some people do get benefits, and there are different ways
of using it a little more safely than drinking, using it transdermally.
But we are not here to talk about that. So Gabriela, I was just
talking about the general mindset that we live in a society
in a civilization that basically pretends and fantasizes and
has hallucinations that all dangerous chemicals and radioactive
particles and heavy metals are basically safe. That we as a
population have nothing to worry about. That even though we
are all exposed, that there is a miracle happening. And we just
have to do nothing. Maybe drink some Johnny Walker, and keep
watching our TVs, and not worry about anything including what
is going on in Japan, and how that might already be beginning
to affect the West Coast of the United States.
Dr. Segura: Yes, it is basically a message
of "Go back to sleep, you know, everything is fine!"
when clearly it is not. And I was reading just today about Chernobyl,
how do you pronounce that, "Chernobyl experience,"
and the attitude we are seeing today about the Japanese nuclear
alert is basically very normal. People or the governments tend
to just say everything is fine. Obviously they have ties with
the nuclear power advocates, and they are more interested in
preserving their status quo, basically, than helping people,
innocent people that are going to be exposed to, you know, these
radioactive materials. So yes, the situation is very, very bad.
I do believe, very, very bad.
Dr. Sircus: So we were talking about glutathione,
and bicarbonate nebulization, and leading into that basically
we talked first about iodine, and then even though I tell people
that magnesium is always number one in my protocol, but for
radiation sodium bicarbonate,
Dr. Segura: It is very important. And it has
proven effective --
Dr. Sircus: Which are you talking about, bicarbonate
or magnesium? [a long pause] hello?
Edward: OK, we lost her! [laughter]
Sircus: We lost her.
Edward: She was saying that she was having
real problems with Internet connections, so she is off the switchboard.
So you will just have to continue on, and when she gets back,
I will just let you know, because I would really love the two
of you to have a dialog back and forth, because you are so like-minded
when it just comes to allopathic and just common sense approaches,
and I want to get that across to people. You don't find heart
surgeons like Gabriela Segura talking like you are, Dr. Mark.
You don't find that very often. This is great to me. I think
this is the best meeting of medical and practical knowledge
that I could ever have on a radio show. So I will just let you
continue onward. We have got iodine, we have got sodium bicarbonate.
What else? I can't pronounce it.
Dr. Sircus: Glutathione.
Edward: Glutathione. And that could be suppositories
as well as a nebulizer.
Dr. Sircus: That is correct. Now let's go to
the magnesium. People should be going out and looking for magnesium
oil, which is magnesium chloride, or Epson salts, or Dead Sea
salt. These are three main sources. Or magnesium bath flakes.
Actually it is four different types of magnesium products. Except
for the Epson Salt, Epson Salt and Dead Sea Salt, these are
salts. Magnesium chloride is a salt, so you get it in crystal
or power form. [59:16] And then this stuff called magnesium
oil, which is liquid magnesium chloride. Magnesium, lets just
talk about magnesium for a few moments. It is number for me
in just about every situation. Number one and a half in radioactive
[situations]. The basic analogy, first of all, without magnesium
we'd all be dead. There would be no life on this planet. Magnesium
is the metal that allows plants the miracle of changing
light energy into chemical energy. It is the heart of chlorophyll.
It is the atom that sits right in the middle. Knock the magnesium
out and you put iron in and then you have hemoglobin. So it
is a very interesting thing. Magnesium is the lamp of life.
Because it is involved in almost every physiological process,
I basically use the analogy it is like the oil of a car. You
try to run your car up a mountain side with no oil, or with
very little oil, you are going to seize your engine, you are
going to have big trouble. When you walk into an emergency room,
having a heart attack or a stroke, if they inject magnesium
sulfate or magnesium chloride, with a stroke, if you inject
it in the first two hours, you basically are going to avoid
all the damages. If you inject it while somebody is having a
heart attack, you save the person's life in half a heartbeat,
a heartbeat. Magnesium is just like a lubricant -- it is not
really, I am using that as an image. But it can just save your
life in a heart beat. Like iodine, as they said, one of the
biggest things we have to look at, and maybe we should go back
to a little bit of generality, the biggest thing we have to
look at are our deficiencies. If you are iodine deficient and
magnesium deficient, you are a sitting duck. Like trying to
get yourself, like the analogy of a radiation cloud coming,
or trying to climb up a mountain, if you are deficient in these
minerals you are a sitting duck.
Edward: Dr. Mark, we have Dr. Segura on again,
so just go ahead. And Gabriela please chime in.
Dr. Segura: OK.
Dr. Sircus: So we are sitting ducks. So the
treatment, the treatment -- it is an emergency room
treatment. It is intensive care treatment. The treatment is
to start taking iodine. To start taking magnesium
in very high dosages. And you can take this magnesium
oil and put it all over your body. This transdermal approach.
And the best medical treatment for Cleopatra herself, is to
put this oil all over your body or your children's body and
then massage it in. Combining massage and touch, therapeutic
healing touch. And the medicinal property of magnesium on the
skin, you have just won the most wonderful treatments, and you
don't even have to give a professional massage, just like you
would intuitively put in sun tan screen to the skin. You can
just rub it in. I recommend this for all people with cancer
and other serious diseases. But one way is putting it in on
the skin. Second way you could drink it, although when you take
high dosages it gives diarrhea. Oral consumption of magnesium
is limited because it would provoke loose stools very quickly.
But going back to our bicarbonate baths, if you put one or two
pounds of bicarbonate, you put one or two pounds or three pounds
of one of these magnesium salts in the bath, and then you have
what I call the ultimate mitochondrial cocktail, which is magnesium
and bicarbonate which will be like ramming the magnesium into
the mitochondria so they can produce more energy. Of course
we need energy to detoxify. So magnesium is going to make detoxification
of the body much easier. So it never should be ignored. And
that is the problem with Western medicine. They talk about iodine,
like that is the only thing to think about. Don't take iodine,
take iodine! It is a crazy paradigm. It is like, "Oh, just
breath for the rest of your life through one nostril. Forget
about the other one exists!" We might as well plug it up.
We need to do many things. And the basic things are iodine,
the magnesium, and sodium bicarbonate. These three super emergency
room medicines are very inexpensive. Will give people, and this
is just the beginning of the list, and the next thing is going
to be clay in terms of importance, and what we can use clay
for. But these three things are the core of my protocol for
just about everything, including cancer. And of course radiation,
the fear that the result will be cancer. If it is high enough
dosage, you get radiation sickness and die very quickly. You
can get a little bit of radiation, not notice it for a few years,
and then you end up with cancer.
Edward: So Dr. Segura, you agree?
Dr. Segura: Yes.
Edward: We said this before. Chime in there,
because you are a medical doctor and a heart surgeon and such,
and you brought a lot of things up with me in your show last
time about how things such as the sodium bicarbonate and the
magnesium oil and such, how there was such a positive effect,
even that you had seen with heart patients and such, so join
in here and make some comments, because some people need to
see this is real, and this is how it can help us. [1:05:29]
Dr. Segura: Yes, definitely the magnesium and
sodium bicarbonate. I was talking about spirulina and chlorella.
There are also other therapies that are widely available just
in case, I heard people already starting to have trouble in
getting iodine, you know, supplements. They are starting to
run out, or you know, but also cocktails of antioxidants, because
radiation basically that is what it causes, it oxidizes your
body, basically. And popular anti-oxidants have proven effective
if taken 24 hours before and after exposure. We are dealing
here also with chronic exposure of radioactive material for
a long period of time. It will be decades
of this exposure, so it is important to have, to keep
in mind also, small cocktails of antioxidants. You guys already
talked about it a little bit. You know, there is glutathione,
like N-Acetyl-Cysteine, which is [abbreviated as] the NAC, the
alpha
lipoic acid, I think those are basic. But there is also
vitamin C, ascorbic acid, vitamin E, and --
Dr. Sircus: Selenium.
Dr. Segura: Melatonin is another important
one. And I want to mention about melatonin. There is an effective
way of increasing your levels of melatonin, but it doesn't cost
anything. It is basically sleeping in total darkness. Your room
has to be completely dark to the point that you can't see your
hand if you put it in front of your face. That is an effective
way of increasing melatonin levels. We have tried it with excellent
results like people report that their dreams are more vivid
and they sleep much better. It helps to regularize your bowel
movements. It is basically something that is free and you can
do it. But also melatonin implementation has been used effectively
in case of radiation. I basically encourage people to keep in
mind, take a small cocktail of antioxidants, along with your
magnesium and your bicarbonate treatment, and what we are talking
about on this show and the last show as well. And there is also
the research of doctors that work at Chernobyl, they have very
good results with products like pectin. Have you ever heard
of pectin?
Dr. Sircus: Yes, sure. Go ahead.
Dr. Segura: It is basically a complex carbohydrate.
In Chernobyl they used pectin in children, and it showed it
helped them clear out radioactive material up to 50%, and it
was used basically at a dose of 5 grams once or twice daily
for one month, at least four times a year, and after that children
were much better. And this is something that is also widely
available.
Edward: I am letting you two just go on with
this. I know I am the host, but you two just go ahead and interact
and speak about what we need to do to get rid of these toxins.
Go for it. Don't let me interfere. OK, so that is why I am letting
this silence here.
Dr. Sircus: OK, let me continue, because I
have been trying to put out a very structured protocol. I definitely
concur with everything Dr. Gabriela just said. There is a whole
list of different things, and the key point is there is going
to be a run on all of this. So there is going to be shortages
of just about everything, so provide a long list, and people
should pick up what they can.
Dr. Segura: Sounds great.
Dr. Sircus: One of the next major ways of dealing
with the detoxification, and this brings us back to the beginning,
on one hand we have to deal with our nutritional deficiencies,
which make us weak in handling toxicity. The second major thing
is we have to understand that we are already are toxic. We already
live in a poison planet. We already have a tremendous amount
of mercury pollution in the world. Not only do we inject it
and put it in our teeth, but all these coal-fired plants that
we cry or the press cries about the CO2 they produce, the CO2
is actually very necessary and healthy and the plants love it,
and life wouldn't exist on this planet, but they don't talk
about the mercury they put out. And of course in the Gulf of
Mexico we have had this tremendous oil pollution and toxicity.
Also it is one of the most mercury-polluted areas. We have problems
with lead, we have problems with rocket fuel, we have problems
with the pesticides, fungicides, and we are just surrounded
with toxicity. So people are already toxic.
They are already deficient in nutrition. So we are not dealing
with very healthy specimens. We are dealing in the year 2011
with a weakened population through incredibly bad diet, nutritionally
deficient foods, poisons in our air, poisons in our water, some
of which are deliberately put in there like the fluoride, the
chlorine is also poison, the list is thousands of things, along
with the beauty products we use, the beds we sleep on, with
the fire retardants, the list doesn't stop. So in dealing with
the situation that is coming up, especially if you live in a
city, cities of course have the urban pollution, people breathing
24 hours seven days a week, air with poisons, forget that you
are a cigarette smoker, or you are drinking all the time, alcohol
which is very toxic in itself and depleting of magnesium, so
without belaboring this point, we are dealing with subjects,
with patients, with people, with a population who are deficient
and weak and who are already walking, toxic bombs. And now we
are talking about spraying these people with radiation. I mean,
we do have radiation on this planet. We love to do that in dentist
office, more radiation. Go to the airport in the United States,
more radiation. Of course your medical tests, more radiation.
Now they use more powerful testing machines, more radiation.
And let's see, now you have got cancer, lets give you some more
radiation. Radiation is the death principle.
Dr. Segura: Yes.
Dr. Sircus: Dr. Walter
Russell, one of the greatest geniuses who ever walked this planet,
about a hundred years ago, he was friends with Thomas Edison
and all these group of geniuses who lived back then, he wrote
a book called "Atomic Suicide," and defined
radiation as "The Death Principle." Death. And it
is true. Radiation equals death. Of course in our modern insane
society, with the medical doctors and scientists, it is safe.
[Laughter]. Death is safe. Radiation is safe. So we are talking
about radiation hitting a nutritionally deficient population,
who are already chemically poisoned. So they are on the edge,
and we have to help this population. So of iodine of
course just doesn't do it, bicarbonate of course will help and
magnesium will help a lot, but we have got to keep, you know,
if you can afford it, and it is still available, like the next
item on the board or on the table, clay, eating clay, eating
edible clay and also clay baths and clay packs. Clay has a very
special property. Clay tends to be very pure. So most clays
that you can buy today are very, very pure. They have a very
special property because they are so pure. They have an incredible
affinity for the impure. Like a sponge, they will just suck
the impurities to it. So you can eat an edible clay, and clean
from the inside. It will draw, especially if you are ingesting
some contaminated food, radiation poisoning. It will help and
create a drainage through the whole digestive track, drawing
the poisons to it, and then you eliminate it, and then you could
also do clay packs, you put it in your bath, jump into a bath
full of clay, or you can put clay packs, different medical treatments,
you know you have different problems in certain part of the
body, but in general clay will help with removal of radiation,
of heavy metals, and chemical toxicity. It creates a drainage
on the body, it is inexpensive, again, this is not another medical
item that costs an arm and leg, and you have to go to your bank
account and borrow money for. Clay you can buy a year's worth
of very fine eating clay for the whole family or six months
supply for $50 or $60, registered eating clay that is certified
by the government to eat in a glass bottle from the LL Magnetic
Clay Company. There are other fine companies too all around
the world. There are a lot of good people dealing with clay.
Clay is your best friend in detoxification. It makes everything
easier. It gives people the access to the healing power of Mother
Earth. It comes from the earth. Water has its own special healing
power. Pure water. And the same with the earth. Animals when
they get sick they eat the dirt, because it cleans. It absorbs
the pathogens, it absorbs the toxicity and leaves the biological
systems cleaner. This is what you want. It is effective for
all types of radiation contamination. Not like iodine which
is only for iodine radiation. So clay, eating clay
and clay to put on the body, if you have a radiation cloud coming
down on you, and you are panicking, if you have clay, it is
just like having Mom around. You have the earth. We need the
earth, in these trials and tribulations we need the best of
the earth. Clay offers the best of the earth. Most of these
eating clays, they come from underground deposits, so they are
not exposed to the toxicity of the modern era. The magnesium
oil I recommend too comes from underground. There are different
magnesium products you can buy. You can buy from seawater evaporation.
Or you can buy this stuff that comes from underground in Europe.
It comes from a deposit that is 250 million years old. It has
been down around 1500 meters, 1500 yards, it is 250 million
years old. It has been down around 1,500 meters, is a
sea that the earth turned upside down, or whatever happened,
and it got trapped, and now they pump it up like oil. This magnesium
oil. It is so pure, there is like hardly any mercury in it.
You have to get down to the one part per billion level to see
even an atom of it. So the purity of substances really helps
us out when you are dealing with toxicity. You do not want to
use impure stuff that has its own toxicity, which includes of
course all pharmaceutical drugs, they are all toxic, so when
you -- with toxicity, what do you get?. More disease and toxicity.
Dr. Segura: More toxicity.
Dr. Sircus: Yes.
Edward: Well, I use, I take care of animals
and rehab and such, and we use internally clay as a detox for
the horses especially. That is once a week. Somebody
just had a question, you were talking about using clay externally
such as put it in the bath tub, and you also said that with
Epson salts. Can you combine the two of them together such as
bentonite clay with Epson salts in the bath and get a good detox
double whammy at the same time?
Dr. Sircus: I have never experimented with
combining clay with like the, to me, the ideal bath is loaded
with sodium bicarbonate, magnesium, and if you are using chlorine
in your water, you don't have a filter taking it out of your
bath water, using a little sodium thiosulfate, which is the
stuff you buy in the fish store to put in the pet fish tank
before you put the fish in because it neutralizes the chlorine
right away. And the sodium thiosulfate, which you can only buy
in a chemical supply house. You can do that online. It not only
neutralizes the chlorine, but it gives you sulfur. And sulfur
is an important item. In fact, I just read a post from somebody.
It was you, Dr. Gabriela about the DMSO, is that correct?.
Dr. Segura: Yes, indeed.
Edward: That is something I wanted to bring
up. Get into that right now. DMSO and MSN (spelling?) and such.
Dr. Segura: Yes, DMSO has a long history of
use as an antidote for acute exposure to radioactive material.
And that is why they recommend anti-oxidants that have sulfur-containing
compounds, such as NAC, N-Acetyl-Cysteine, and also Alpha Lipoic
Acid, but there is also the typical classic sulfur containing
compound, it is dimethyl
sulfoxide, which is DMSO, which nowadays you know is mostly
used, veterinarians use it, a lot of people use it, and they
get it from the so-called black market because this is not approved
by the FDA for many, many reasons. Basically, actually for the
only reason that it works very well and it doesn't have a profit,
so pharmaceutical companies are not interested in it, you know.
There was a Japanese study I was reading just the other day
that showed that even low concentrations of DMSO had radioprotective
effects, because it repairs DNA that was damaged. It provided
protection against radiation damage in all the body. The DMSO
is really a fascinating compound. People use it for many, many
things with excellent results. That is why basically I posted
one entire article about DMSO. [1:21:21]
Edward: I know one thing, when I used it with
the horses, and if I don't use gloves, in fact
we use it for horses that have sprains and everything else.
It is amazing, and this is since the 80's, when they first came
out with it, so it is nothing new with animals. But with people,
like you said, Gabriela, it is not approved by the FDA. You
can't patent it, you can't make money from it, so of course
it won't work! Just like Dr. Mark was saying, "Well of
course radiation is fine for you!" [Laughter]. But I do
know, definitely, if you get it on your skin, at least in a
veterinary strength, and I don't know what the difference
is, but you can taste sulfur in your mouth.
Dr. Segura: Exactly.
Edward: When I am rubbing a horse with it,
it only takes about a minute. I taste sulfur.
Dr. Segura: Exactly. It dissolves that quickly,
and for emergencies it works very well. Typically, you use it
topically in sprains, but it has many, many uses and people
can take it also orally. But there are a few precautions to
take, because it dissolves very well,
and everything you put into it, it will carry very well into
your body, even though it is a powerful antioxidant and it can
neutralize some of the bad effects of drugs, you have got to
be careful because of that property of dissolving anything into
your body. But I will keep
it mind. It is a very powerful anti-oxidant. It also serves
as sulfurous first. It detoxifies your body in a very effective
way. We have used it with very good results for detoxification.
So the news that it is radioprotective is very good news indeed.
Edward: Radioprotective. OK, so that means
that it protects you from the effects of radiation.
Dr. Segura: Yes, exactly.
Edward: OK. These are new terms for me, so
I am just playing the dummy in the middle here. I know other
people who will probably be like me and not understand all the
things that both of you are saying. I know it is hard to oversimplify
when you know the proper terms.
Dr. Segura: It is amazing because they are
like the Chernobyl experience like in a sense enriched the medical
vocabulary with new diseases that were never described before.
Mostly due to chronic exposure to all these radioactive materials.
People nowadays are being affected mostly from the foods they
eat that are contaminated with radioactive material and will
continue to be so for decades to come. So this is some of what
we can expect now from the Japanese nuclear alert.
Edward: So you have already experienced this
because of Chernobyl, and what was that, ten years ago? And
that was one reactor, so now we have at least four reactors
in Japan, to bring this on the jet stream to go around the northern
hemisphere. So we are probably looking at some extremely long
term effects.
Dr. Segura: Yes, that happened in 1986, and
actually even some levels of radioactive material in foods started
to increase even more after 1996, that was ten years after the
accident.
Edward: Wow.
Dr. Segura: Yes. That is pretty bad. But they
have also seen that processing foods helps a lot in reducing
the contaminated material, so for example, soaking in water,
boiling, salting, and pickling foods, such as vegetables, can
decrease the amount of radioactive material in food, like several
times. They also suggest to avoid dairy, milk especially, because
it usually will concentrate radioactive material. Processed
dairy like butter, d-butter (spelling) is much safer. So that
is a good thing to know.
Edward: Yes, this is all news to me.
Dr. Sircus: OK, so I am going to tell you the
breaking news coming out this particular moment, reads this:
the head of the power company in Japan, the headline reads,
"The Moment the Nuclear Plant Chief Wept." As Japanese
finally admit their radiation leak is serious enough to kill
people, he broke down, and we have a picture of him crying,
they finally are beginning to admit that this is very, very,
very, very dangerous. All these communications we are hearing
from the government or the news media, "To not worry, go
back to bed," tell that to the Japanese now.
Edward: Yeah. They are on an island, where
do they go?
Dr. Sircus: Right.
Edward: They can only disappear by boat, even
commercial airplanes are not flying in and out of Tokyo-Narita
Airport now.
Dr. Sircus: They are not?
Edward: No. No, they have cut off, KLM has
cut off, and the U.S. Airlines have stopped their scheduled
flights.
Dr. Sircus: It is a small place. Japan is a
small place for something like this to be happening. Very small.
Edward: Well, so let us get back to, we are
going to have to deal with this. It is coming our way. The entire
northern hemisphere of this earth for sure will have effects
from this.
Dr. Sircus: OK, so the next item, the next
big thing, is a whole category of things. Eating super foods,
we talked about nutritional deficiency. But it is more than
fulfilling nutritional law. Feeding the body super foods, and
superfoods are basically high in chlorophyll, which means also
high in magnesium. We are talking about things like spirulina,
chlorella,
wheat grass juice, barley juice, or my favorite, which I use
personally is this [unintelligible] I call Rejuvenate
made by this physicist of all kinds of people in Arizona.
I have been involved with spirulina
for 30 years. My mentor in life, Dr. Christopher Hills who saved
my life, spirulina and in every other way, he is the guy who
brought spirulina to the world, something the Aztecs used to
eat, it is a micro algae, now the Japanese, the Israelis, the
Chinese, the Indians from India, everybody makes this stuff.
It is wonderful stuff, it doesn't taste so good, but it is wonderful,
wonderful for children. This Rejuvenate, it was sent to me like
six months ago, and I just looked at it for about a week. I
opened it up and smelled it, and I started seeing stars. It
is incredibly good-tasting. It is made from spirulina, chlorella,
and then it has all of this organic, like alfalfa sprouts, hemp
seeds, and on and on and on. Delicious-tasting thing, so you
can take a lot of it. Taking a lot of spirulina, a lot of this
good-tasting Rejuvenate, or growing your own wheat grass juice,
any of these green, these substances are just like rocket fuel
in terms of the potency. Flooding the body whether you are sick,
forget about from radiation poisoning, but, well it is like
being a jet fighter, turning on the dial, and putting your after
burner on. The cells will just go into overdrive which means
the nutrition can flow into cells more easily, and give them
everything they need to protect themselves and it makes it easier
for the waste to get out of the cells. Magnesium is very important,
also bicarbonate. So super nutrition is critical. I promote
this Rejuvenate as a survival food. Spirulina as a survival
food. It is a medicine, fasting food, survival food, all in
one. Makes you feel better, makes you more beautiful. These
nutritional basic things, it is just so powerful and wonderful,
we could go on and on. We could talk about spirulina all night,
and all the research. But if you can get your hands, whether
it be for survival, because the planet is running out of food,
one area of the world after another these past twelve months,
production of food is going down. The number of people still
going up. And now Japan, we are not talking about it very much,
but what got destroyed with the tidal wave? A good chunk of
their food production capacity. Farmlands and the low-lying
areas along the coast. There is not that much space to grow
food in Japan. 30% of their fishing fleet in their ports were
wiped out. So another huge amount of food production just got
wiped out. And there are not extra stocks in the world, I mean
the Japanese are going to start bidding on the world markets
for some of this food. The Chinese are having trouble with their
wheat crop. So it is a good idea, whether it be for radiation
poisoning, or for survival food, or just
to get healthier, and prepare for more future shocks. These
super foods go along way. Some of them can be expensive. If
you eat a lot of it, so it is not a bad idea to learn how to
make wheat grass juice, do it yourself. So it is a solution.
Edward: OK. We got a question from the chat
real quick before we get too far away from clay. Instead of
taking a bath, could someone use it in a shower where they get
wet, they put the clay on them, let it pretty much dry, and
then go ahead and let it rinse off later.
Dr. Sircus: Correct. You can go out in sun,
or you can just go out and relax, and let it dry. You can also
put clay packs on over night and sleep. I used to do that when
I had those, when I was having problems with my cataracts. I
put clay on my eyes, and covered that, and put a bandage around
my head and sleep with the clay pulling out the poisons from
my eyes. You can do that around your chest, for the
lungs. There is no limit. Especially if you are desperate. So
yes, you can go out in the sun. You can sit in your shower room
and read a book and let it all dry, and give it a good time
to dry, and then, sure, shower it off.
Edward: OK, I know in Europe and especially
in Poland, Germany, and such, and I guess in France they might
still do it. They use poultices. A poultice where you have herbs
or clay or anything in there and put that on a spot where you
might have a problem. Now I am just thinking, wouldn't that
work if we have got clay or even the iodine perhaps if we are
on severe exposure with radiation and such? Could we use a method
like that in using some of these things? If they are just in
a small quantity and small availability for us, just to use
a poultice? [1:33:42]
Dr. Sircus: Yes sure. That is what I am talking
about. You can put poultice, and sleep with them on, or put
them in certain parts of your body and walk around during the
day with them on. Or just leave them on for a few hours. It
doesn't have to be always a bath in covering your whole body
which makes an incredible mess. So if you have a lot of people
to do, you have to be smart, you have to be creative, and you
have to be very flexible, depending on how much of a product
you have. Of course you use less of it that way than filling
up a bath with it. Same with the magnesium, putting it on your
skin directly, you use less of it than if you pour it into a
bathtub. So depending on the product you are buying, how much
you are able to get your hands ahold of, how much money you
have and what you can afford, there are different ways of combining
these different substances. Of course again sodium bicarbonate
is the cheapest and one of the most effective, so you can go
for that. Clay also, especially eating
clay. Any fine clay that you can eat, very inexpensive.
You get a lot of kick for the buck. A lot of effectiveness.
Edward: Well internally I use clay myself.
I use it for the horses, like I told you, especially with them.
But I do the same thing myself when I get USDA
human consumption-certified bentonite clay or montmorillonite
clay. One pound costs about $5. And it seems like it is really
expensive. It goes a long way, so I would like to throw my two
cents in with that, because I have seen the proof of
detoxification from clay with the animals. It is one of the
first protocols we use for rehab, especially with the horses,
which their intestinal systems are very, very sensitive with
certain things. There are lots of toxins they bring in, and
we have a weekly protocol with bentonite clay internally with
them, and I do the same thing myself, along with diatomaceous
earth and things like that. It does make a difference with
detox, so I want to stress that to every listener. This might
all sound kind of odd, Dr. Mark and Dr. Segura are talking about
things that are not magic pills. OK, that is the mindset that
most of us have is, "Oh, we have got a pill for that, you
will be OK, just take a pill and radiation won't bother you."
Well, I am sorry, that is a lie. That is why this show is so
important. You need to listen to both these people, because
they understand exactly what is going to get us through for
some of us -- some that are younger, not some of us -- some
who are younger get through the next 40 or 50 years, because
we will have this contamination. And some of us that are a little
bit older, OK, I would like to make it another 20 years. That
would be nice. So I just want to encourage everybody who is
listening live, and also when you hear this in the archives,
write down everything that Dr. Mark Sircus and Dr. Abrigail
Segura are saying. We have got about 20 minutes left, either
one of you, anything that we have missed, or any comments. Just,
you know, lets just keep this going. Perhaps there is something
else with other studies that you have heard will help us, or
even talk about how it affects our soil and how that affects
our food or whatever. People just don't know. So anything you
have got to say, just go do it and another 20 minutes and let's
save some people. [1:37:43]
Dr. Segura: Yes, and another interesting thing,
I learned in the last few days, is that after these kinds of
accidents, the rates of infections rises for the next several
years. I am talking here about microorganisms, viruses, hepatitis,
measles, herpes virus, bacteria, and so forth, all these micro
organisms become much more virulent. They don't understand exactly
the mechanism, but there is a strong possibility that we will
see an increase in infectious diseases for the next several
years.
Edward: Wow. For those of us in the Gulf of
Mexico, what you are saying is we have got this problem because
of the oil flow, the fake spill that is really a flow, that
we already have the bacterial problems and the chemical problems,
which is why I have had both of you on separately before today's
show, talking about detoxification with that in particular.
Now we are talking about not just around the Gulf, we are talking
about the whole northern hemisphere with radiation detox, which
a lot of, and correct me if I am wrong, I am seeing that what
both of you are saying of how we can naturally detox, we are
talking about pretty much the same basic things with clay, magnesium,
the spirulina, and the chlorella, all these things cover both,
whether it is the chemical toxins from the big oil flow in the
Gulf or the radiation toxins.
Dr. Segura: Exactly, the antioxidants. Also
keep in mind the DMSO has antiviral properties, and also the
therapies we are talking in general are effective against infections,
the anti-oxidants, vitamin C, and so forth.
Dr. Sircus: We shouldn't pass too quickly over
these antioxidants.Vitamin
C, my favorite company for that, is Megafood.
It is not ascorbic
acid. Ascorbic acid which is normaly considered vitamin
C by just about everybody, is not really vitamin C, it is a
part of vitamin C. So there are some fine companies. I think
another fine company called Chapter House. They make whole food
vitamin C's, and there other, many companies you can look around
for, much better than ascorbic acid. Vitamin C is a life-saver.
It should be included in almost all intravenous injections from
doctors. In severe radiation poisoning, fighting for somebody's
life, vitamin C, injectable will increase ones odds of pulling
through it. Alpha
lipoic acid is a known chelator of mercury, so it would
also be effective for other heavy metals, including uranium.
Also helps increase glutathione production, these are very important
if you can get your hands on them and take them in high dosages
Dr. Segura: Yes. it can save your life.
Dr. Sircus: Yes, so this NAC is also a precursor
for glutathione. All these amino acids, or substances that deal
with sulfur and opening up the sulfur pathways. I like the sodium
thiosulfate, as I mentioned for the baths. But Epson
salts can be used as a magnesium and sulfate, providing
sulfur, so there are many different options. The Megafood also
has a very good selenium, and vitamin E complex. Selenium is
very important because it binds with mercury. Everybody is dealing
with the mercury toxicity, so we can't forget about that. You
get rid of the mercury and you can stand the radiation a little
better because you are a little stronger. So selenium --
Dr. Segura: And also vitamin
E and selenium act synergistically to protect you against
radiation.
Dr. Sircus: Correct, and of course the government
doesn't tell you it makes the iodine work better. Iodine supplementation
is safer. You should always use selenium with the iodine. So
the whole idea behind everything we are talking about is hitting
and taking care of many different angles, being like in your
own house creating a field hospital and treating yourself and
your children or other loved ones as a comprehensive medical
team would. Meaning, you have specialists, but your specialists
aren't these doctors with the stethoscopes hanging around their
neck. The doctors are the bicarbonate, magnesium, and the iodine
and the selenium.
These are all the doctors you bring into
the room, and each one will play its own special role, like
a team of medical specialists. You increase your strength and
you increase your capacity to eliminate new poisons and the
radiation exposure. One of the keys that is very important to
understand, which we didn't talk about, and I call this approach
to medicine I have been talking about tonight, I call natural
allopathic medicine. Normally the word natural and allopathic
would be oxymorons. They don't go together, because allopathic
or Western medicine does not deal with natural substances.
They hate natural substances and they like to do witch hunts
against natural medicine. But, they don't want to listen to
it, but their best medicines in the emergency room are concentrated
nutritional medicines. Sodium bicarbonate, iodine and magnesium.
So the secret in this form of medicine is to get the dosages
up high enough, if you just take a little bit of this and and
little bit of that, you are not talking about real medicine
here. It is the opposite of allopathic
medicine, which uses poisons at low dosages, you need to use
low dosages of pharmaceuticals because you don't want to kill
the patient, right away at least. So you do very low dosages
of pharmaceuticals. You have a little effect, and you try to
change the symptoms. You don't ever cure the person with the
poison, but you can change them. So this is the opposite. You
use very safe substances -- not even water is not safe, you
can drown in a bucket of water, so take everything I am saying
with a grain of salt. You have to use your own intelligence.
But basically you are starting out with low dosages, and if
your radiation cloud is coming, you go up as fast as
you can. As fast as your body can comfortably take it. Better
than following government, and don't do anything, and then take
a massive one time dose of iodine, and not anything else. It
is a little bit like in the Stone Age of medical thinking in
terms of toxicity syndrome whether it be through radiation,
oil or heavy metal, general chemicals, we are dealing on a more
sophisticated level, and we have to be our own doctors, because
doctors are not trained in this.
They are trained in dealing with poison, not concentrated nutritional
substances that really help the body. [1:45:41]
Edward: Quick question from Chad. I have heard
that Arm and Hammer Baking soda or whatever it is has aluminum
in it. Is that true? Man, if it doesn't, how should you take
it? I know you spoke about this earlier, but let's go over it
again. A teaspoon or whatever?
Dr. Sircus: Arm and Hammer is absolutely free
of aluminum. The aluminum free, John's Red Mill is very fine
sodium bicarbonate, but it is a marketing gimmick. Yes, it is
aluminum free, and Arm and Hammer is also, I have seen the papers
right from the company, I have communicated with the company.
They are a great company, the baking powder has aluminum, it
is different than baking soda, or sodium bicarbonate. So it
is very safe to use. You can use it, and on the box of Arm and
Hammer, the maximum dose for an adult internally orally is seven
and half tea spoons a day. That is max. You should always use,
if you want to use sodium bicarbonate therapy, you should read
my book, because it is good to be knowledgeable about it. You
need to have PH paper, so you don't take too much. You need
to regulate your PH, but if you have cancer you want to get
to urinate PH up to 8, for instance. You don't want to bring
it up to 9. You want to bring it up to 8 or 8.1. So you have
to navigate. So you need PH paper. If you take strong bicarbonate
baths, you can put one, two, I had a person wrote me, put five
pounds of bicarbonate in their bathtub, and they said to me
it was leaking out of them for two weeks, they were so full
of bicarbonate. But in an emergency situation, if they were
telling you live right next door to the plant in Japan, you
would be thinking in terms of these massive dosages. Because
it is either that or die.
Edward: I would be jumping into a whole tub
of baking soda, believe me. I am sorry, I forgot the other half
of the question that this person had. If you are on other medications,
such as a doctor [prescribed] medications or poisons, would
there be any kind of effects with the banking soda that could
counteract or anything like that? Anybody need to show extra
caution if they are on pharmaceuticals?
Dr. Sircus: Well you always have to be a little
extra cautious if you are on pharmaceuticals, because you are
suffering or having to deal with the side effects or the toxicity.
A big contradiction would be the clay. You don't want to take
your medication right after you take your clay, your drinking
clay, because then the clay will absorb the poison, which is
probably a good thing, but --
Edward and Dr. Segura: [Laughter]
Dr. Sircus: -- Yes, it will absorb the poison,
I mean, excuse me, the drug, and it won't enter the blood stream.
.
Edward: Well, we had to have some good humor.
We just had it! Well, OK, chemotherapy is just as good for us
as radiation, according to the government, so I guess we are
OK.
Dr. Sircus: A secret. The
oncologist, they don't tell anybody this, when they give most
forms of chemotherapy, at the same time they will give bicarbonate.
Now, they give bicarbonate, why, because the chemotherapy is
so toxic, if you are not careful, you could kill the person
right there in the office. So you need sodium bicarbonate to
soften it down. I mean, all radiation is incredibly nasty. Without
sodium bicarbonate it is deadly, so they use sodium bicarbonate
very quietly. And when I discovered this, I told this to my
wife, and she said to me, looked at me, because I had just written
a book using sodium bicarbonate for cancer treatment. She said
well how do they know when they do actually help somebody if
it is the bicarbonate helping them or the chemo therapy? And
I looked at her and I said, "There is no way to answer
that question." They don't control for that. So it could
be all the good from chemotherapy could actually be from the
bicarbonate, and it is not only saving you from the cancer,
but it is saving you from the chemotherapy and the radiation.
Edward: That is a scary thought, but probably
more realistic. Well, OK, can either one of you think of anything.
We have covered a lot. OK, go ahead [Dr. Segura].
Dr. Segura: I wanted to say something about
the diet very briefly, because some of the biological properties
of these radioactive materials, are similar to stable components
in food. Meaning that if you eat the food, it will help to block
the binding of the radioactive material into your body. I am
talking here about foods rich in potassium and calcium, which
are similar to the components of radioactive material. So foods
rich in potassium like you know bananas, raisins, beets, nuts,
lemons, and other rich foods like green onions, parsley, spinach,
I wouldn't recommend dairy [products] though, will help also
to protect your body from radioactive material. It is something
you can do, and it is through the diet. It is like healing.
Allowing food to be your healing medicine, basically.
Dr. Sircus: Yes, so everyone should go out
and buy a kilo, we can't not say this, of miso. Miso is what
the Japanese used after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. People who ate
miso, one of the chemicals inside of it, also were statistically
much higher rates of survival. This is, stories about this from
different sources ever since the end of World War II, so miso
is a very important thing, as is diet in general. Probiotics,
not a bad thing-- .
Dr. Segura: Probiotics
is very important because in Chernobyl it was shown that your
gut, your intestinal flora, your gut of children, gets imbalanced
and in a[n otherwise] healthy gut, it is guaranteeing basically
chronic disease. So it is very important to balance the gut
flora.
Edward: You need to have the right kind of
bacteria in the gut. Isn't that what probiotics promotes is
for the right kind of bacteria that we need?
Dr. Segura: Exactly, yes.
Edward: I only deal with horses, so I am hoping
everything is the same with people, because I relate everything
to what I do with the animals, and like I said I use all natural,
everything that I can. We don't have any chemical warmers or
anything like that. So my approach is look, if it is good enough
for the horses, it is good enough for me.
Dr. Segura: Yes [laughter].
Dr. Sircus: I would like to correct something
I said. My assistant is watching, Claudia. Hello Claudia! [Laughter]
Who is listening in from Florida. She said, corrected me. I
mentioned Megafood and Chapter House. It is not Chapter House,
which is very good with vitamins and minerals. It is New Chapter.
They are a very fine company. New Chapter, and the Megafood
company. We are talking about spirulina and chlorella, many
different companies, the Rejuvenate, there are many,many, many,
many things.
Edward: So we have to have a broad approach
to not only protect ourselves from immediate effects,
but also long term effects, and a lot of this is not just clay
and typical quick detox. We have
to have a long term approach with this of things such as nutrients
and building up our immune systems. Correct me if I am wrong.
I am just trying to --
Dr. Sircus: Surviving a poison planet is not
easy. It is not easy. It has already been this way for a while,
and getting worse every year. And what happened last week in
Japan, is just going to make it worse. We are going to be an
even more poisoned planet. What happened in Russia last year
they never talked about it. But the two biggest nuclear accidents
were before Chernobyl in Russia and with Chernobyl they spread
nuclear material all over the forests, all over the soil, when
Russia burned down almost, big areas of Russia burned to the
ground and forests burning up, all this radiation and heavy
metal toxicity spread out in the planet. Of course our best
friend BP, what they did in the Gulf Coast, and this is a huge
toxic bomb, we might as well put out the largest hydrogen bomb
in the world in the Gulf, it probably wouldn't have done near
as much damage as what this oil is doing, and to the people
in the local area. Now we have Japan, you live downwind
of an electric coal plant, a crematorium, a municipal incinerator,
if you live on the West Coast, you have got 30% of your pollution
coming down from China. We have a messy situation that is bad
and it is getting worse. The most vulnerable people are the
old people and the newborns, the children.
Edward: If they can make it that far, because
there is a terrible abortion rate of pregnant women along the
Gulf Coast right now, so if we can even have a new generation.
Dr. Sircus: That is in question, that is in
question. And so this is all very serious, it is not just about
Japan. Japan is just kicking a guy, he is drowning already,
and he is coming up for water, and you put your foot on his
head, and you push him back down again. This is a little bit
of what Japan is going to do to us. But fighting for the survival,
the health, is not a joke, and these things are gong to help
in every sense. Unfortunately it is a negative sense,
meaning we have to fight against toxicity, meaning radioactive
toxicity.
Edward: We have got two minutes. I'll ask Dr.
Gabriela Segura first. You have got one minute, summarize the
most important things, and then after that, Dr. Mark, you chime
right in. [1:56:54]
Dr. Segura: Well I would like people to check
out as sott.net, that is because I just wrote an article about
what we talked about today [Editor's Note: please see: "Detoxify
or Die: Natural Radiation Protection Therapies for Coping With
the Fallout of the Fukushima Nuclear Meltdown,"
by Dr. Segura, 18 March 2011] and basically it is call radiation
protection therapies for coping with the fallout of the Fukushima
nuclear melt-down. So it is a comprehensive article about what
we can expect. What has happened in the past, available treatments,
natural treatments, like we just talked, that are widely available
and that are cheap, comprehensive detox, through diet, through
supplements, through other cheap therapies, and a briefing program,
also that is available as a free download. People will have
to take this seriously, because we are not going to get a lot
of help from our governments, as we have seen from past experiences.
We have to take responsibility for this if we are to protect
our own health and that of our children. Yes, basically that
is it.
Edward: OK, Dr. Mark.
Dr. Sircus: Well, I have said most of the things
that need to be listened to. So I will address the United States
Federal Government and governments around the world. For them
to wake up, to take the situation really seriously. To stop
lying, and start making an all out effort to help the public
with these basic approaches. Safe and effective approaches.
They should be organizing all the companies that are involved
in producing iodine, for instance, or clay. Put these people
and resource centers twenty four hours a day. Get this stuff
produced. Get this stuff out there to the people who need it.
Take a couple of billion dollars from the bankers and spend
it on this and help people. Ask President Obama to forget about
golf, and look at the president of this company in Japan who
is crying. People should be crying. The leaders should be crying.
This is an incredible disaster. To open their hearts and be
vulnerable to what is going on, and then with the humiliation
that comes with being vulnerable and crying, maybe their intelligence
will start flowing back, and they will start acting in a way
that is going to really help as much as we can help. There is
a limit to what we can do now to help. Plutonium is nasty. You
take everything we just talked about --
Edward: We are out of time, I am sorry. [Laughter].
Dr. Sircus: People get my point.
Edward: OK, they got it for sure. My only last
comment in five seconds: Be who you were created to be. Love
you all, thanks for listening.
Additional Notes:
The information being offered in this broadcast from 3/18/11
is absolutely essential for detoxification from Gulf of Mexico
toxins as well as radioactive fallout detoxification. We were
very privileged to have both Dr. Sircus and Dr. Segura discuss
the proven and researched methods for naturally ridding our
bodies of the lethal contaminates from our air and water.
It's vital for everyone to read the latest IMVA updates Dr.
Sircus is posting at International Medical Veritas Association
http://imva.info/
as well as essential information Dr. Segura posts at Health
Matrix http://www.health-matrix.net/
and Signs Of The Times http://sott.net.
Detoxify or Die: Natural Radiation Protection Therapies for
Coping With the Fallout of the Fukushima Nuclear Meltdown:
http://www.sott.net/article/226021-Detoxify-or-Die-Natural-Radiation-Protection-Therapies-for-Coping-With-the-Fallout-of-the-Fukushima-Nuclear-Meltdown
International Common Law Copy Rights by Michael Edward, the
World Vision Portal at http://www.worldvisionportal.org,
and The Gulf Blue Plague at http://blueplague.org
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/wvp
Audio archive:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/wvp/2011/03/18/gulf-blue-plague-update.mp3
Misc
other links to the works or interviews involving Dr. Mark Sircus:
Dr.
Mark Sircus blog
Iodine
- Bringing Back the Universal Medicine - Second
Edition, E-Book
Mark
Sircus and Gerald Celente - Things are not looking good for
the Human Race (part 1) uploaded March 13, 2011
Mark
Sircus and Gerald Celente - Things are not looking good for
the Human Race (part 2),
Natural
Allopathic Medicine for the Gulf Blue Plague: Special Guest
Dr. Mark Sircus Ac, OMD, March 5, 2011
Transdermal
Magnesium Therapy part1 Dec 7, 2010
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